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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2020 08:11 GMT
#729
On October 30 2020 17:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2020 16:33 yamato77 wrote:
I personally think the best lynch tomorrow is Acro. Onegu and Grack I don't really expect much from as town, so it's a crapshoot to try to lynch them. I made my case on Acro and that has largely gone unresponded to so I stand by it.

So this IS a scumread? Sorry i didnt see it because you didnt say you think he is mafia:

One person I absolutely do not care for is Acro. He is hyper-focused on Hapa's claim to a fault. His comments on anything outside of that since the early parts of the game are sparse. He wrote a whole bunch of nothing about my spat with Rayn and has followed up on literally nothing except his evaluation of a single 3p claim. This fixation is something that appears genuine, but could easily come from mafia. I do not trust him.

100% mafia read and I would vote Acro just based on that.

Oh i see it is and o dont even disagree with what he said. My problem lies within the fact that he said he doesnt care about acro and that he seemed genuine but could also be mafia. I dont understand why youd think someone is mafia and then dont care about them? Imo thats the thing he should MOSTLY care about. That someone is mafia and you try to get them killed. Right? It sounds like marv in that shadow game when we were laughing with DP when marv was never calling anyone mafia but instead smelly and some other shit.. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2020 08:12 GMT
#730
Nevertheless its good yamato actually took a stance there. We'll see what comes out of it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2020 10:10 GMT
#744
Its okay youre town anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 12:33 GMT
#886
On November 01 2020 21:31 Dirkzor wrote:
No one visit the database to night. Should be obvious.

what are you talking about?

what the happened in our thread? yamato?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 13:05 GMT
#888
On November 01 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2020 21:31 Dirkzor wrote:
No one visit the database to night. Should be obvious.

what are you talking about?

what the happened in our thread? yamato?

If corruption increase so does KP by 1. So if even 1 town goes, and mafia fill up the rest they have +1 KP next night. So i would assume you wouldnt be interested it that?

I would be interested in making one player who people think is mafia, going.
If they dont go we just straight out lynch them.

Even one townie going is better than noone going.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 13:10 GMT
#889
On November 01 2020 22:01 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2020 21:31 Dirkzor wrote:
No one visit the database to night. Should be obvious.

what are you talking about?

what the happened in our thread? yamato?

If corruption increase so does KP by 1. So if even 1 town goes, and mafia fill up the rest they have +1 KP next night. So i would assume you wouldnt be interested it that?

How do you know there is 2+ mafia left in the game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 13:34 GMT
#892
On November 01 2020 22:19 Dirkzor wrote:
I forgot that atleast one have to go. Hmm... also how many needed now before its increase? Still 4 or is it now 3 because we are only 11. I don't know how the rounding up/down works.

Do we really want to chance it with someone we think is mafia? Why not someone we think is town. That person can just claim to have went and say 2/3 others have also gone? How would we know. Maybe make someone we think is town go, and then mafia have to use a lot of manpower to increase it (and thats other night actions they cant use).

Btw i don't know how many mafia is left. I just assumed that there would be atleast 2.

3 to fulfill the corruption +1. 11 alive, 6 is majority, 3 is half the majority (it's rounded up in mafia games always).

Yes we do. If we "hit" mafia with it, mafia possibly cannot increase the corruption (if Acro was mafia, and/or if there was 2 mafia to begin with). Sending one town is better than sending noone because if we send one town mafia has to send at least 2 people (cannot use actions, hell we dont even know if they can use KP if they go) to increase corruption. Opposed to noone goes and mafia just sends noone and it will increase.

Hapa and Dirkzor are never going. Period. Just because they are either 3p or at least there is a chance they are (i know hapa is 100% i am just grouping them here together because we cannot be sure about dirkzor). If we find out they have gone without town's consensus going on from here, just simply insta lynch there.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 13:48 GMT
#893
My thoughts on Acrofales' no flip:

Acro had a jan ability/attribute in his role, he "fully claimed" so that would make him mafia

Mafia janned Acro. I don't know why mafia would jan town!Acro because he fully claimed his role as per his words.

Town janned Acro. Why the fuck would anyone do that?

3p janned Acro. I don't really see why?

So like.. There is also a possibility of a copycat role who gets the first role that dies. Aside from this option it is very hard for me to see why Acro is town mechanic-wise.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 14:20 GMT
#900
On November 01 2020 23:10 iamperfection wrote:
So in our thread one of yamato Rayn and slam lied about vote or fucked up?

why would i lie or fuck up?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 14:20 GMT
#901
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is quite possible Onegu is mafia too. I don't think his reasoning for going to the database is legit, he said he didn't consider not going because the corruption was going up anyways. There's two problems there. It most likely wouldn't have gone up if he didn't go.
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)



Other thing is that how is onegu even supposed to know how many people are going when he has claimed to read only the latest page and comment on shit that has his name on it?

Looks like he is not being very truthful about his commitment to the game.

From onegus comment he believed everyone was going as going to 2 didn't matter so this is mostly nonsense.


what comment?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 14:41 GMT
#907
On November 01 2020 23:33 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is quite possible Onegu is mafia too. I don't think his reasoning for going to the database is legit, he said he didn't consider not going because the corruption was going up anyways. There's two problems there. It most likely wouldn't have gone up if he didn't go.
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)



Other thing is that how is onegu even supposed to know how many people are going when he has claimed to read only the latest page and comment on shit that has his name on it?

Looks like he is not being very truthful about his commitment to the game.

From onegus comment he believed everyone was going as going to 2 didn't matter so this is mostly nonsense.


what comment?

When he talked about going we were talking about sending everyone because we didn't know at the time raising the corruption level was atrocious for town.

But what is the comment he made that makes you think so?
I mean like he said this:
On October 30 2020 15:28 Onegu wrote:
Hey question. I know I'm a idiot but with the corruption at 1 right now and it only having shit happen at 1,3,5 don't we want as many people as possible going tonight? To get the most clues?

On October 30 2020 15:30 Onegu wrote:
Or am I missing something here that I didn't see because I only skimmed it

On October 30 2020 15:35 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 15:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 30 2020 15:28 Onegu wrote:
Hey question. I know I'm a idiot but with the corruption at 1 right now and it only having shit happen at 1,3,5 don't we want as many people as possible going tonight? To get the most clues?


This has been discussed hehe. I thought you were going in already.



I thought it had already been discussed I haven't read the thread. But what was decided? And why aren't we coordinating who everyone is visiting? And shouting at people to do it?

On October 30 2020 15:35 Onegu wrote:
I know it's to late to shout at people. I will be visiting and targeting koshi

I understand he is saying it's a possibility that everyone goes. But after that he is saying the townie thing that we should consolidate and even asks who is going? Did he check who was going? Did he try to follow up with something?

I am not sure his D1 post on Grack lines up with that string of posts, regardless ofwhat he decided to do.

I also dont really like you saying i could have lied or even worse fucked up or forgotten to do something, because i dont do that. I dont like it because you are very adamant on telling people how they should think (re: my grack problem D1), what is the most likely explanation. It's not a bad thing playing like that because it usually ends up in a right conclusion but suggesting i could have lied (which would make me mafia) about voting for TT when i made the case on him when noone and their mothers even thought he could be mafia when i could just like... not do that lol...

I think that's the dumbest thing you have suggested this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 14:52 GMT
#910
On November 01 2020 23:45 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2020 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:33 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 23:03 iamperfection wrote:
On November 01 2020 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is quite possible Onegu is mafia too. I don't think his reasoning for going to the database is legit, he said he didn't consider not going because the corruption was going up anyways. There's two problems there. It most likely wouldn't have gone up if he didn't go.
On October 31 2020 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People who went to the database:

Alakaslam (no)
Tictock
Koshi (no)
Raynpelikoneet (no)
Yamato77 (yes)
Iamperfection (yes)

Hapahauli (roleblocked, so no)
Grackaroni (no)
Onegu
Dirkzor (no)
Acrofales (confirmed no)
ShoCkeyy (no)



Other thing is that how is onegu even supposed to know how many people are going when he has claimed to read only the latest page and comment on shit that has his name on it?

Looks like he is not being very truthful about his commitment to the game.

From onegus comment he believed everyone was going as going to 2 didn't matter so this is mostly nonsense.


what comment?

When he talked about going we were talking about sending everyone because we didn't know at the time raising the corruption level was atrocious for town.

But what is the comment he made that makes you think so?
I mean like he said this:
On October 30 2020 15:28 Onegu wrote:
Hey question. I know I'm a idiot but with the corruption at 1 right now and it only having shit happen at 1,3,5 don't we want as many people as possible going tonight? To get the most clues?

On October 30 2020 15:30 Onegu wrote:
Or am I missing something here that I didn't see because I only skimmed it

On October 30 2020 15:35 Onegu wrote:
On October 30 2020 15:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 30 2020 15:28 Onegu wrote:
Hey question. I know I'm a idiot but with the corruption at 1 right now and it only having shit happen at 1,3,5 don't we want as many people as possible going tonight? To get the most clues?


This has been discussed hehe. I thought you were going in already.



I thought it had already been discussed I haven't read the thread. But what was decided? And why aren't we coordinating who everyone is visiting? And shouting at people to do it?

On October 30 2020 15:35 Onegu wrote:
I know it's to late to shout at people. I will be visiting and targeting koshi

I understand he is saying it's a possibility that everyone goes. But after that he is saying the townie thing that we should consolidate and even asks who is going? Did he check who was going? Did he try to follow up with something?

I am not sure his D1 post on Grack lines up with that string of posts, regardless ofwhat he decided to do.

I also dont really like you saying i could have lied or even worse fucked up or forgotten to do something, because i dont do that. I dont like it because you are very adamant on telling people how they should think (re: my grack problem D1), what is the most likely explanation. It's not a bad thing playing like that because it usually ends up in a right conclusion but suggesting i could have lied (which would make me mafia) about voting for TT when i made the case on him when noone and their mothers even thought he could be mafia when i could just like... not do that lol...

I think that's the dumbest thing you have suggested this game.

I'm just saying I know for a fact I voted for him. I don't know a 100 percent that the rest of you three did and the fact he didn't die means one of you lied or fucked up..... Not sure why your getting your panties in a bunch over it.

Because you have played this game by looking for the most possible answers for shit, and dismissed me digging further into something (re: grack -- i did that just because nothing else was going on during that game). I would say there is less chance of me lying not voting for TT regardless of anyone's alignment than there is Grack lying about not knowing mafia KP is 1 at the start of the game. It is just annoying.

On November 01 2020 23:42 iamperfection wrote:
I can be the only one going to the database. If anyone else goes or is caught by a role going it's a scum claim.

I can agree to this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 15:35 GMT
#911
I just realised someone did something to me. I dont know what that is. Does anyone want to claim it? Dont say what you did, just that you did please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 16:41 GMT
#914
Iamp do you agree that Hapa + Dirkzor should never go in any case unless agreed by town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 16:50 GMT
#915
On November 01 2020 23:05 iamperfection wrote:
At least I didn't fuck up untill after the switch

what is this ?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 17:02 GMT
#918
Oh i see. :D

As per your last post yeah i jsut wanted someone else who is town to say it too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 17:04 GMT
#919
Where is your mind at Hapa?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 17:07 GMT
#921
When did you vote for Koshi and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 17:15 GMT
#924
On November 02 2020 02:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When did you vote for Koshi and why?

Yesterday before the Halloween rush, because I omgus probably? I was tired. I drive many hours for the uber people

When exactly?

Why did you not post a vote on Koshi TO vote for him but posted a vote on TT and NOT vote him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2020 17:20 GMT
#928
On November 02 2020 02:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 02:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:14 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 02 2020 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When did you vote for Koshi and why?

Yesterday before the Halloween rush, because I omgus probably? I was tired. I drive many hours for the uber people

When exactly?

Why did you not post a vote on Koshi TO vote for him but posted a vote on TT and NOT vote him?

Cell phone reception and around 7pm my time, when I was shitting and saw my PM did not go through (bad token or some shit) and was clear. Forgot who I was voting for, didn’t care that much as I needed to wipe and go drive, voted Koshi

That would be... about 5AM this morning your time

Looks like you had a lot of shit going on when you voted for Koshi.

Why didn't you vote for TT when you said you would?
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