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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 20:59 GMT
#913
Fecalfeast, do you have any thoughts on Eywa- and Damdred? I'm having a really hard time telling who is mafia between them.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 21:29 GMT
#915
Yeah okay fine, I prefer lynching Eywa- to Damdred.

Maybe that's me being manipulated. But Damdred deserves credit for bringing the game back to life and his play has been really solid. The only real mark against him is the LightningStrike read in my opinion.

Eywa- has a few individual issues in addition to the general lack of explanations of reads and such. Plus the hard refusal to consider LightningStrike as mafia and lack of willingness to re-evaluate. I will try to stop overthinking it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 21:44 GMT
#917
I think the most suspicious thing from Eywa-'s play is his vote onto Mr. Cheesecake. Doesn't match with the rest of his play or mentality at all.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 23:42 GMT
#932
Sorry I fell asleep.

I'll vote for LightningStrike (as I am) or maybe Eywa- or mayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybe Damdred. But we would need Onegu at a minimum. It might be best or necessary to take another 24 hours.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 18 2020 23:58 GMT
#935
Fecalfeast, have you said why you think I'm mafia? I know you mentioned me getting upset at Damdred but I don't recall you mentioning anything else.

I don't really know what else to say, I've been here trying to engage people and no one but (sometimes) Damdred has wanted to talk to me. I've analyzed players as well as I can and at least for LightningStrike, I have very compelling reasons why he is mafia. I can't defend myself from nonexistent reasons.

I literally don't know what more there is for me to do.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 01:15 GMT
#947
I mean that kinda confirms Damdred as town to me, or he could have just voted for me (even at deadline, if he didn't know Eywa- would unvote).

Which makes the game solved. But I have no idea how to convince anyone about it more than I have already tried to do, and people don't really seem to care about what I say. At least Damdred read my posts, so there's something, but it's really hard not to feel ignored and like my efforts are futile. Then again I suppose I have been blatantly ignored much of today.

How frustrating.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 01:19 GMT
#950
On August 19 2020 10:17 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 19 2020 10:15 Trfel wrote:
I mean that kinda confirms Damdred as town to me, or he could have just voted for me (even at deadline, if he didn't know Eywa- would unvote).

Which makes the game solved. But I have no idea how to convince anyone about it more than I have already tried to do, and people don't really seem to care about what I say. At least Damdred read my posts, so there's something, but it's really hard not to feel ignored and like my efforts are futile. Then again I suppose I have been blatantly ignored much of today.

How frustrating.

You realize that if Damdred is confirmed town to you, then you are confirmed scum to both myself and LS right? Because in your world, if you're town, Damdred is also town. Therefore, you cannot be town, because I am town and you can't both be town.
Yes, which is fine with me because you are both mafia.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 01:22 GMT
#951
Like okay, I get what you are getting at. I'm not frustrated at you, I'm just frustrated at getting lynched every game I play, especially when I think I put in a lot of effort and never understand why. It's hard not to think that people don't like my playstyle or just straight up don't like me, I see no other rational explanation for it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 01:44 GMT
#963
LightningStrike, are you feeling any better with being sick?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 01:50 GMT
#967
On August 19 2020 10:44 LightningStrike wrote:
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On August 19 2020 10:44 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, are you feeling any better with being sick?

Yep I think I back at full 100% now why?
Glad to hear you are okay! No game related reason, just checking on you.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 03:27 GMT
#969
I kinda wish the game wasn't so solved, it means there is nothing to do I have no classes right now, I'm bored

I guess the only real thing to think about is whether or not Onegu could be mafia but when I start entertaining that possibility, it feels impossible to confirm. So it'd have to be confirmed through process of elimination, which would be very difficult.

That said, if Onegu is mafia, him not posting is the perfect strategy, absolutely guarantees he wins. Maybe we should all just lynch Onegu if he doesn't come back by the final deadline...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 06:18 GMT
#970
Reread the thread out of boredom. Some random thoughts:

Eywa- and LightningStrike were super opportunistic. LightningStrike coming right before the deadline to vote HoldenGolden then voting for ShoCkeyy Day 2 after Vivax and I were pushing him. Eywa- suddenly appearing later Day 2 when it seemed like I could be lynched.

LightningStrike with multiple weird posts where he asks a question, someone answers it, then he says "that's what I was thinking." The first time talking to Fecalfeast about if the doctor should claim, the second time on page 40 talking to me about the Vivax kill. Like, he says the Vivax kill was strange and he doesn't know what it means, then he asks me, and then agrees with me? It would make sense for LightningStrike to say "that makes sense, thanks!" or something to that effect but "I was thinking that too" comes across very false. Same for the first example, in some ways more clear, but I'm on my phone and don't feel like pulling up quotes.

I keep seeing posts I find suspicious and then seeing they were made by Fecalfeast Which really doesn't help anything at all.

But yeah. Mr. Cheesecake still felt really towny, being present and influential at all the right times. Damdred felt solid too.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 19:00 GMT
#999
On August 20 2020 00:25 LightningStrike wrote:
2-2-1 split right now but we need to lynch today or we lose.
I believe we have an additional 24 hours if needed?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 19:01 GMT
#1000
On August 20 2020 02:16 LightningStrike wrote:
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On August 20 2020 02:13 Eywa- wrote:
LS are you joking? Damdred actually said that it has to be me/you and then he tries to convince you who to vote. Like, I don't get it... How do you think "LS is lock scum from my PoV" ... "LS vote with me" has town motivation.

It's actually insanity that you're voting me right now. Trfel has Damdred as lock town and isn't voting with him. Trfel isn't spending anytime talking to FecalFeast despite the fact that the FecalFeast vote is the only one that matters for him.

Like, this game is such a joke, have none of you played LyLo before?

He doesn't have me lock scum he only said there was a chance I was scum at least get that right. Yes I had played LYLO but only as town.
ROFL SCUMCLAIM?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 19:04 GMT
#1001
On August 20 2020 04:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2020 02:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 20 2020 02:13 Eywa- wrote:
LS are you joking? Damdred actually said that it has to be me/you and then he tries to convince you who to vote. Like, I don't get it... How do you think "LS is lock scum from my PoV" ... "LS vote with me" has town motivation.

It's actually insanity that you're voting me right now. Trfel has Damdred as lock town and isn't voting with him. Trfel isn't spending anytime talking to FecalFeast despite the fact that the FecalFeast vote is the only one that matters for him.

Like, this game is such a joke, have none of you played LyLo before?

He doesn't have me lock scum he only said there was a chance I was scum at least get that right. Yes I had played LYLO but only as town.
ROFL SCUMCLAIM?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I don't know what more to say, if you vote for me instead of LightningStrike after this I can't blame myself at all.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 19:35 GMT
#1011
On August 20 2020 04:11 LightningStrike wrote:
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On August 20 2020 04:01 Trfel wrote:
On August 20 2020 02:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 20 2020 02:13 Eywa- wrote:
LS are you joking? Damdred actually said that it has to be me/you and then he tries to convince you who to vote. Like, I don't get it... How do you think "LS is lock scum from my PoV" ... "LS vote with me" has town motivation.

It's actually insanity that you're voting me right now. Trfel has Damdred as lock town and isn't voting with him. Trfel isn't spending anytime talking to FecalFeast despite the fact that the FecalFeast vote is the only one that matters for him.

Like, this game is such a joke, have none of you played LyLo before?

He doesn't have me lock scum he only said there was a chance I was scum at least get that right. Yes I had played LYLO but only as town.
ROFL SCUMCLAIM?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

How was that a scum claim? I speaking the true I only played LYLO as tow nand I am town this game.
You can say what you want, I suppose it's not for me to judge. But to me, that's the worst I've seen after Onegu's video however long ago that was.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 19:54 GMT
#1015
Damdred, did you see LightningStrike's scum claim?

Also, for all, note that I was LightningStrike's top townread and he didn't even agonize about moving me to top scumread due to a townread of Damdred after the replacement. Feels very convenient.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 19:57 GMT
#1017
On August 20 2020 04:55 Eywa- wrote:
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On August 20 2020 04:54 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, did you see LightningStrike's scum claim?

Also, for all, note that I was LightningStrike's top townread and he didn't even agonize about moving me to top scumread due to a townread of Damdred after the replacement. Feels very convenient.

Did you see Damdred's scum claim?
You mean not voting with Fecalfeast?

Sure, that could be very suspicious if I were mafia. But since I'm not mafia your point is invalid.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 20:41 GMT
#1034
We can no lynch today and take another 24 hours.

If LightningStrike were town, he would have said "I have played LYLO before." He said, "I have played LYLO before but only as town." If he is town, why would he add that part, especially the word "but?" The word but implies there is a difference, a contrast, so it's heavily implied that he has to be mafia this game.

It's completely unnatural to come from scum. Like it doesn't literally mean he's mafia, if he were town he would never say that. Mayyyybe "I have played LYLO before as town," never what he said.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 19 2020 20:46 GMT
#1035
Also if you actually care about me saying I'm mafia at the start of the game, I've done it before as town. I actually like it because it helps to get discussion started early on, as demonstrated this game.
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