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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 19 2020 23:16 GMT
#1061
On August 20 2020 08:07 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2020 08:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
This is what I've wanted all game tbh but never pushed it because I'm not confident in my LS read.

I'm not confident at all in your LS read.

mneh mneh mneh
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 20 2020 00:03 GMT
#1062
I really hope LS flips scum because it is impossible from a game standpoint me being scum then.

We will have one confirmed town perhaps two depending on onegu if LS flips scum.

And that's a good thing
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2020 00:05 GMT
#1063
i hope ls flips scum because it means we don't lose. It also means I get to die unless mafia mercy kills onegu
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 20 2020 00:07 GMT
#1064
It kinda depends on if we kill the roleblocker or not, which is a 50/50.

I have written my revised case on LightningStrike which I will drop if needed.

LightningStrike, can I ask why you decided to write a case on Eywa- instead of on me?
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 20 2020 00:07 GMT
#1065
Well that's true.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2020 00:08 GMT
#1066
On August 20 2020 09:07 Dadred wrote:
Well that's true.

why you gotta do this
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 20 2020 00:08 GMT
#1067
I won't tell scum what to do but they are in a pickle if LS flips scum I hope
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 20 2020 00:09 GMT
#1068
On August 20 2020 09:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2020 09:07 Dadred wrote:
Well that's true.

why you gotta do this


I was talking about not losing is the best part
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2020 00:09 GMT
#1069
you're not allowed to act scummy in the last hour
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 20 2020 00:13 GMT
#1070
The case on Eywa-
So here is one of his entrance posts:
On August 09 2020 22:50 Eywa- wrote:
HoldenGolden, I'm not familiar with the flavor, are you softing doc?

Why blue hunt that early into the game as town? It makes no sense to do it as if the doctor got outed then they will be roleblocked for the rest of the game.
Next this post after he voted Vivax when prompted on why he is voting Vivax:
On August 11 2020 01:08 Eywa- wrote:
It's a good question, I'm finding a hard time explaining it myself.

I feel like I don't have a very good grasp on the game unless the simple answer of GTacc/Vivax (at least one of) is mafia. The activity in the game has been hard to read and has left me not wanting to lynch Shockey or trfel which I'm hearing a lot about.

I can't get GTacc lynched today, he probably forgot about the game tbh. He doesn't play much offsite.

He didn't have a real reason to lynch Vivax at that point and thus was a bad vote reason.
Next this was on the 10th's deadline coming in this post:
On August 11 2020 09:45 Eywa- wrote:
Is Trfel the kill? LOL

He was suggesting a lynch alternative and he didn't even said any reasons for why Trfel was possibly mafia at that point of time.
Next this weird post from him:
On August 16 2020 06:53 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2020 06:52 Vivax wrote:
On August 16 2020 06:48 Eywa- wrote:
On August 16 2020 06:46 Vivax wrote:
Eywa what did you even vote Cheesecake for?

He ninjad my post so there's a 0,01% chance he's scum looking for the same answers as me.

Do you expect that if I answer this question again, that I will somehow slip giving you a reason to vote me?


I like how you already start from the presumption that I ask you things in order to nail you.

And in an attempt to evade the question.

Is there a reason for you not wanting to share insights on previous scumreads?

Cases are scummy.

Why are cases scummy? When people post cases it meant to prove someone is a certain alignment idk why he really would cases are scummy as town.
Next this snide comment:
On August 17 2020 11:13 Eywa- wrote:
I mean, we just lynched obvious town yesterday, so we deserve to lose right?

If you really thought someone was obvious town why didn't you defend them and even further more he never explained why he thought Shockeyy was town in the first place before that post in the first place.
Next he tried to force himself vs Damdred this entire phase:
On August 18 2020 05:39 Eywa- wrote:
I don't see anything changing, we just need everyone to vote in consensus on Damdred, or myself if you think this is my scum game. Any other vote would be foolish, any non-consensus vote is game throwing. Damdred unvoting or moving is a scum claim because I'm voting him. If he's town, the game is over.

I haven't taken a hard line on kills this game, which resulted in my top town read being killed, so I'm going all-in on this one.

He tried to do this because town needed to move on? Very odd thing to do even I did do something similar trying to push FF Day 1 I didn't do it more than 1 IRL day for it.
Last and not least trying to tell me and Damdred that the other is mafia:
On August 20 2020 04:20 Eywa- wrote:
LS and Damdred voting together is mind-boggling. They need to know that the other is mafia yeah?

@FF if we can't get either of them to switch, you know we have to switch onto one of them right? It's our only chance of winning.

Before that post I explained my Damdred read on why I thought Damdred was town so why did I need to think Damdred is mafia at that point? Very weird thing to do as town to tell 2 people that they must scumread each other.
TLDR:
1. Very weird entrance
2. Very unexplained reads throughout the game on multiple people
3. Didn't really defend his town read and made a very snide remark regarding his town read being lynched
4. Tried to force Damdred vs him for this entire day phase
5. Telling me and Damdred that we must scumread each other
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 20 2020 00:14 GMT
#1071
On August 20 2020 09:07 Trfel wrote:
It kinda depends on if we kill the roleblocker or not, which is a 50/50.

I have written my revised case on LightningStrike which I will drop if needed.

LightningStrike, can I ask why you decided to write a case on Eywa- instead of on me?

I will do a case on you as well but wanted to write my Eywa one first since more popele are open to him being scum than you.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 20 2020 00:30 GMT
#1072
Wtf no responses to my case yet? WTF TOWN READ MY CASE AND LEAST RESPOND TO IT..............
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 20 2020 00:32 GMT
#1073
I know the feeling, sorry

Your case has me convinced, I'll lynch Eywa- next. Points 2 and 3 I think are pretty good.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2020 00:40 GMT
#1074
On August 20 2020 09:13 LightningStrike wrote:
The case on Eywa-
So here is one of his entrance posts:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2020 22:50 Eywa- wrote:
HoldenGolden, I'm not familiar with the flavor, are you softing doc?

Why blue hunt that early into the game as town? It makes no sense to do it as if the doctor got outed then they will be roleblocked for the rest of the game.
I see what you mean here but at the same time I don't know how what holden was doing could be a doctor claim and it could have been a way to obfuscate the doctor. anyone who claims off this post was going to claim at a bad time anyway.
On August 20 2020 09:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Next this post after he voted Vivax when prompted on why he is voting Vivax:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 01:08 Eywa- wrote:
It's a good question, I'm finding a hard time explaining it myself.

I feel like I don't have a very good grasp on the game unless the simple answer of GTacc/Vivax (at least one of) is mafia. The activity in the game has been hard to read and has left me not wanting to lynch Shockey or trfel which I'm hearing a lot about.

I can't get GTacc lynched today, he probably forgot about the game tbh. He doesn't play much offsite.

He didn't have a real reason to lynch Vivax at that point and thus was a bad vote reason.

fair enough but I'm not sure voting for a bad reason is inherently AI especially when the entire way to play a majority lynch game with a time limit is to consolidate on a person rathe rthan push your reads super hard
On August 20 2020 09:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Next this was on the 10th's deadline coming in this post:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2020 09:45 Eywa- wrote:
Is Trfel the kill? LOL

He was suggesting a lynch alternative and he didn't even said any reasons for why Trfel was possibly mafia at that point of time.
Next this weird post from him:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2020 06:53 Eywa- wrote:
On August 16 2020 06:52 Vivax wrote:
On August 16 2020 06:48 Eywa- wrote:
On August 16 2020 06:46 Vivax wrote:
Eywa what did you even vote Cheesecake for?

He ninjad my post so there's a 0,01% chance he's scum looking for the same answers as me.

Do you expect that if I answer this question again, that I will somehow slip giving you a reason to vote me?


I like how you already start from the presumption that I ask you things in order to nail you.

And in an attempt to evade the question.

Is there a reason for you not wanting to share insights on previous scumreads?

Cases are scummy.

Why are cases scummy? When people post cases it meant to prove someone is a certain alignment idk why he really would cases are scummy as town.
Next this snide comment:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2020 11:13 Eywa- wrote:
I mean, we just lynched obvious town yesterday, so we deserve to lose right?

If you really thought someone was obvious town why didn't you defend them and even further more he never explained why he thought Shockeyy was town in the first place before that post in the first place.
Next he tried to force himself vs Damdred this entire phase:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2020 05:39 Eywa- wrote:
I don't see anything changing, we just need everyone to vote in consensus on Damdred, or myself if you think this is my scum game. Any other vote would be foolish, any non-consensus vote is game throwing. Damdred unvoting or moving is a scum claim because I'm voting him. If he's town, the game is over.

I haven't taken a hard line on kills this game, which resulted in my top town read being killed, so I'm going all-in on this one.

He tried to do this because town needed to move on? Very odd thing to do even I did do something similar trying to push FF Day 1 I didn't do it more than 1 IRL day for it.
Last and not least trying to tell me and Damdred that the other is mafia:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2020 04:20 Eywa- wrote:
LS and Damdred voting together is mind-boggling. They need to know that the other is mafia yeah?

@FF if we can't get either of them to switch, you know we have to switch onto one of them right? It's our only chance of winning.

Before that post I explained my Damdred read on why I thought Damdred was town so why did I need to think Damdred is mafia at that point? Very weird thing to do as town to tell 2 people that they must scumread each other.
TLDR:
1. Very weird entrance
2. Very unexplained reads throughout the game on multiple people
3. Didn't really defend his town read and made a very snide remark regarding his town read being lynched
4. Tried to force Damdred vs him for this entire day phase
5. Telling me and Damdred that we must scumread each other

the rest of this is just m ore evidence that this was made right now from skimming the filter. Eywa has been pushing his associative read business for a long time and if LS hasd been reading the game and eywas filter thoroughly he'd know that(it's like 9 pages long he couldn't have just read it all now)

LS it really looks like you went into eywas filter thinking he's scum and finding posts to call out based on that initial bias. I'm so far not moving my vote
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2020 00:40 GMT
#1075
I here i'm taking time to read respond and think about things.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 20 2020 00:42 GMT
#1076
On August 20 2020 09:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Wtf no responses to my case yet? WTF TOWN READ MY CASE AND LEAST RESPOND TO IT..............

F5ing to see the responses to your case instead of talking about trfel like you just said you were going to is scummy to me
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 20 2020 00:43 GMT
#1077
Well got no motivation to make a case on Trfel since only 2 people had read my case on Eywa but I gave it my best shot given that he was a PoE scum and FF I did call out his entrance beforehand my list post and his Trfel post as well in there. Yes I know it might of looked bad but it mostly I not good at building cases at all Damdred can attest to that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Dadred
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
August 20 2020 00:44 GMT
#1078
I mean I agree that Ewya is scummy. I can't say more than that. But I do feel like your case is missing some of the LS flair I remember.

I mean I don't disagree with what you said it just seems kind of bare bones. But yeah
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 20 2020 00:45 GMT
#1079
I also was trying to build my case but wanted to see any responses just in case people wanted to ask things about it but with the lack of interest so far I don't think it's worth my energy honestly. I did try my damnest on that case and I hope you guys lynch him after I get lynched.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 20 2020 00:46 GMT
#1080
Cases are scummy. Also, making cases isn't how town gets through LyLo, but my points about how to deal with LyLo have been entirely ignored, so here we are. Hopefully LS flips mafia.
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