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On August 13 2020 04:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 03:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 02:45 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2020 02:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 01:00 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote HoldenGolden
The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things.
Shockeyy why not lynch Holden? LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself. No he didn't respond for you. Why do you not want to lynch Holden? Is that not enough for you? No. ##Unvote
##Vote: ShockeyyI asked why you didn't vote Holden, you said it's because your scumreads were voting for him. You said it when there were 6 people on the Holden wagon and you can't make me believe that you think 6 guys can all be mafia. Then you voted LightningStrike. You haven't even said whether you scumread LS before or after his late vote. And before LS voted for Holden: Me, Trfel and eywa are the mafia on Holdens wagon? It looks just like you're clinging to the LS vote because FF and Cheesecake voted him before. Truth is you just were comfortable with no lynching and keep wasting your vote. All things that make you mafia, because your reads don't change and you just keep pointing back at past stuff and you don't care to rethink them.
I voted LS due to an interaction I had with him earlier about voting you. Now you're doing the same thing he did to me when I voted for you. Both of you seem keen on defending each other.
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And out of everyone voting Holden, I honestly think the possibility of mafia is in these four players.
Trfel, LightningStrike, GTacc, Vivax
I don't think it's all six, idk why you and LS keep trying to put words in my posts as if I've said that.
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And in all honesty the four I'm suspecting of mafia seem to not like reading 
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The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him.
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You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches?
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On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote:
The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him.
Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town?
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On August 13 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote:
You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches?
How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?...
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If anything, you unvoting Holden now and voting for me is scummy as fuck. Basically what you're blaming me for is exactly what you're doing.
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On August 13 2020 06:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote:
You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches? How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?...
And when did your pressure vote on me turn into a scumread anyway? That's also lacking in your filter. Why would I care to do anything at EoD if I could just play it the way you did and not compromise on any lynches?
You are saying all the mafia tried to use a lynch for town at EoD but you, the townie, didn't because you had to keep your vote on me knowing it'd just be another wasted day?
When the mechanics say that mafia wins if we waste time?
That's the theory you're pushing right now. You have it completely backwards.
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On August 13 2020 06:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If anything, you unvoting Holden now and voting for me is scummy as fuck. Basically what you're blaming me for is exactly what you're doing.
Why, you say Holden is town and you are town, so why am I mafia for not just afking on Holden and instead being here wanting to lynch you instead? What as mafia would make me do this? If you say it's because Holden is mafia, then it's something you shouldn't be thinking?
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If LightningStrike is mafia then me trying to make a third wagon is bad for LightningStrike, so that theory of me + LS also goes into the bin.
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On August 13 2020 06:10 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote:
You are partly the reason Holden isn't getting lynched and we lose a day. While LS, FF, and CC all somehow showed face at EoD, you pick one of them as mafia while lazily leaving your vote on me without giving any reason for Holden to be town aside from the votes on him and you think that justifies you making town waste lynches? How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?... And when did your pressure vote on me turn into a scumread anyway? That's also lacking in your filter. Why would I care to do anything at EoD if I could just play it the way you did and not compromise on any lynches? You are saying all the mafia tried to use a lynch for town at EoD but you, the townie, didn't because you had to keep your vote on me knowing it'd just be another wasted day? When the mechanics say that mafia wins if we waste time? That's the theory you're pushing right now. You have it completely backwards.
It wouldn't have mattered if I voted Holden??? He still had the majority of votes until LS voted him which caused everyone to unvote, I still don't see how that's my fault even if I left my vote on you. Holden STILL had the majority. When you became scum to me is when you decided to hard defend LS, just like LS hard defended you when I placed my pressure vote.
LS is the reason why Holden hasn't been voted off. Not me. I didn't waste any days. LS did.
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On August 13 2020 06:15 Vivax wrote:
If LightningStrike is mafia then me trying to make a third wagon is bad for LightningStrike, so that theory of me + LS also goes into the bin.
Dude you making a third wagon is saving LS, it's not bad. You're literally only voting the ones that are about to be lynched such as Holden who you keep unvoting and voting for, then you vote me only cause I voted LS...
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On August 13 2020 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote:
The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him. Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town?
You still haven't answered this.
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On August 13 2020 06:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote:
The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him. Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town? You still haven't answered this.
I wanted a lynch and he didn't play for the entire day after getting into the thread swinging, initially.
But mostly, because I wanted a lynch so I don't see why you are putting the burden of explanation on me when everyone who voted at EoD was the most pro-town in the game. You have some particular reason you just couldn't join the wagon and lynch him? He wasn't playing anyway.
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I'd rather have someone else assess Shockeyy for now and whether any of his actions make sense from a townie perspective.
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On August 13 2020 06:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 06:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 06:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:On August 13 2020 06:00 Vivax wrote:
The only reason you say Holden is town is because of the ones voting for him.
Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him. Because I already interacted with Holden, and I can't see him being mafia, but you know it's mafia, I can always be wrong. Can you prove me wrong as to why Holden isn't town? You still haven't answered this. I wanted a lynch and he didn't play for the entire day after getting into the thread swinging, initially. But mostly, because I wanted a lynch so I don't see why you are putting the burden of explanation on me when everyone who voted at EoD was the most pro-town in the game. You have some particular reason you just couldn't join the wagon and lynch him? He wasn't playing anyway.
I posted that I went off to dinner with the wife, which stopped me from even switching votes anyways. I suggested voting Gtacc, and literally the wife had started asking about dinner which became more of a priority :/
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I think I have to rescind my LightningStrike town lean. His play since the past deadline feels suspicious to me.
LightningStrike, can you explain why HoldenGolden's lack of activity makes him mafia? And can you explain why you are scumreading Fecalfeast less? I thought before you were scumreading him purely for misrepresenting your play and lying, which seems like pretty severe reasons; I'm confused as to how you've backed down and want to lynch HoldenGolden instead.
Can you see why to me, it just seems like you decided to lynch HoldenGolden over Fecalfeast because it's convenient and easy? It doesn't feel like their gameplay really justifies it.
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ShoCkeyy, I find your play quite difficult to understand this game.
Can you explain for the poor readers like me, why you are suspicious of the people you are suspicious of?
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That aside...
I don't want to lynch HoldenGolden if possible, I don't really think he is mafia. I'd much prefer lynching LightningStrike or ShoCkeyy (specifically those two because they have votes). I'll try and reread some filters.
##unvote
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