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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 22 2020 23:24 GMT
#1150
No, don't make me make a decision, I am so bad at making decisions

I'll take a look at what you're talking about.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 22 2020 23:33 GMT
#1152
On August 23 2020 08:15 Onegu wrote:
Yes I just finished Damdreds filter. We should lynch him. He never wants to lynch LS, Defending him multiple times. His read on you changed without a reason. Like you and eywa were his scum reads and likke 4 posts later he is not wanting to lynch.

When LS is up he only switches once me FF and you had voted.

##Unvote

##Vote: Damdred
I guess the weird part is, yeah, if you look at Damdred's read on LightningStrike in isolation, it seems like he's defending LightningStrike. But when he's also defending the counterwagon (me), that suggests the opposite to me as well, which is weird. It's possible that Eywa- is mafia, and then Damdred's play wasn't bad at all, I'm running my mind in circles though and it's not helping.

I could see Damdred being mafia but it's hard to say if this is why for me

Out of curiosity, have you read Eywa-'s filter yet?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 22 2020 23:35 GMT
#1154
Like my gut says to lynch Eywa-. That's where I've been at for several days, it just feels like a poor choice to completely switch at the last second without solid reasoning. Unfortunately if there is solid reasoning to be had here, it's hard for me to see it right now
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 22 2020 23:41 GMT
#1155
Damdred's transition to vote for LightningStrike does feel weird though. The way he waits and then suddenly comes in and votes right after you (Onegu) do and Fecalfeast says he could...

But he was starting to townread me already. Who else was he going to scumread? There were no feasible options besides LightningStrike, so it's sensible that he would be more inclined to lynch LightningStrike, even if he never explicitly said it. It's not completely nonsensical, though it is suspicious given the circumstances.

If you don't mind and you have time, here is a post I wrote on Eywa- and here is a post I wrote on Damdred. Do you have any thoughts on those?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 00:09 GMT
#1156
You still there?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 00:29 GMT
#1157
Onegu I'd much prefer lynching Eywa-...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 00:35 GMT
#1158
I mean I'll lynch Damdred if I must but can we at least talk about it?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 00:45 GMT
#1159
Now I'm wishing I'd been more forceful earlier... Then again maybe I'm wrong and afkOnegu is saving the game but idk. Bleh
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 00:56 GMT
#1160
I suppose it's a fitting way for this game to end...
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 00:59 GMT
#1161
##unvote
##Vote: Dadred




Onegu I will still switch if you are here.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 01:00 GMT
#1162
gg
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 01:05 GMT
#1165
Fair enough.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 01:07 GMT
#1168
Sorry all Was hard to read Onegu with the little play. Excellently done by him and Mr. Cheesecake really.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 01:08 GMT
#1169
I knew the no shot was a possibility, we just didn't really have the means to pressure Onegu to get the read. My fault really, my activity wasn't there at final day.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 04:16 GMT
#1181
Yeah again I'm sorry for my play this game, especially the final day. It would have been good to look at Onegu more, the information was there to catch him, I think if the three of us had been more active we would have figured it out. That's largely on me.

Sorry for not wanting to kill Mr. Cheesecake that one day, he had me fooled pretty well

Definitely learned some things. Made some mistakes.

@Damdred, can I ask how to do a better job of avoiding those things in the future? Other than the obvious low motivation/activity in the last day, is there something I can change about my communication/posting style to make it easier to play with me? I wasn't intending to be toxic or insulting at all and I'm really sorry it came across that way, I do not harbor any of those feelings and have nothing but respect for you. Okay, maybe a little annoyance because you're such a good player and I wish I could play like that
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 04:18 GMT
#1182
Yeah, I mean I was fairly confident Damdred was town and had reservations about lynching Eywa-. Should have put the pressure on Onegu more instead of agonizing between those two so much. But I do think Onegu played the afk scum role very well, for what it's worth.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 23 2020 04:48 GMT
#1186
On August 23 2020 13:33 Dadred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2020 13:16 Trfel wrote:
Yeah again I'm sorry for my play this game, especially the final day. It would have been good to look at Onegu more, the information was there to catch him, I think if the three of us had been more active we would have figured it out. That's largely on me.

Sorry for not wanting to kill Mr. Cheesecake that one day, he had me fooled pretty well

Definitely learned some things. Made some mistakes.

@Damdred, can I ask how to do a better job of avoiding those things in the future? Other than the obvious low motivation/activity in the last day, is there something I can change about my communication/posting style to make it easier to play with me? I wasn't intending to be toxic or insulting at all and I'm really sorry it came across that way, I do not harbor any of those feelings and have nothing but respect for you. Okay, maybe a little annoyance because you're such a good player and I wish I could play like that



You were fine I don't think you were toxic at all.

Tbh I think you will always run into the same problem I do and several others. We like to post we like to talk.

Sometimes it's better to think and not post every thought. Like I got myself in trouble for waffling my read on LS because I have such a soft spot on him, also I did pretend to have a stronger read cause I really thought cheesecake was scum. It led to a weird read change without much progression.

Sometimes you just have to have clear progression, like your LS read was great and you started to have an amazing follow up on it but you also got off track sometimes.

You just waffle around the thread sometimes, lack pointed questions sometimes but you played ok.
Thanks, yeah that makes sense. Unfortunately it's hard for me to pretend to be more certain about my reads than I really am Hapahauli talked to me about that too. I'll have to try and work on it.

Also, @Eywa-, sorry if I upset you this game. I know we have very clashing styles of reading people and logic and that can make things really hard sometimes. I wish I could see more of the things you see, I just honestly have a hard time looking at the game like you do, I wasn't trying to be obtuse.
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