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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 13 2020 21:23 GMT
#854
the person who is mafia and not a roleblocker does not kill the tracker?
i call bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 13 2020 21:32 GMT
#855
VE are you here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 13 2020 21:50 GMT
#857
I dont really need anything other than what you think.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2020 11:57 GMT
#935
##unvote
##vote chezinu
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2020 12:36 GMT
#936
I dont really think it's chezinu to be honest.
And this is mostly host wifom because putting a godfather into this game eould be like huge fuck you to the town since all town roles actually work against the town like 50% of the time... but yeah oast game woth gb was also really too much stacked with the roles so i guess its not impossible or even unlike here, unfortunately.

I dont think i have time to get votes on slam. I have to leave 1,5hours before deadline. I am on vacation and going to an escape room. I wish the game started four days earlier but apparently making a 9 player setup takes a week or so nowadays.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2020 13:13 GMT
#940
Do you want to vote for slam? I can do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2020 13:32 GMT
#942
Lets do it then.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2020 13:33 GMT
#943
##unvote
##vote alakaslam
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2020 14:53 GMT
#951
I really just dont get some things. Slam voted for Trfel, vut he isnt giving himself any town credit for it. I mean thats the towniest thing that people have done in this game, vote for Trfel. Why would you act like defeatist aftwr that (like After shockeyy lynch he says he needs to be lynched AFTER thinking mafia is VE????). Why would he ever think he needs to be lynched over VE???? VE didnt vote for Trfel, he did. Then he again says VE is mafia, then votes for jock when jock has a vote at the start of the day into "one of rayn/chezinu is mafia" when chezinu has votes??????

It sounds very convenient to me. But you guys do what you do, slam is gonna vote for chezinu anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 15 2020 14:59 GMT
#952
Simply put. After eod2 slam has only considered VE as mafia, but has wanted to lynch every player left in the game more than VE, even himself. That doesnt sound right to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-20 10:06:17
July 20 2020 10:04 GMT
#1065
On July 20 2020 06:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 23:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 18 2020 23:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
The fact that rayn voted for chez briefly is the main thing stopping me from voting slam right now.

But I'm contending with the possibility that he just did that to get chez to play ball with him.

Chez seemed to be pretty transparently going for self preservation at the cost of everything yesterday and was putting his vote literally anywhere.

Slam where are you??


Also a good post, and honorable mention for best post in the game.

It is worth looking at the D3 and LYLO lynches in more detail. Observe which players were trying to lynch their reads, often at the expense of their own safety (townies), and which players were trying to blindly stay alive.

Jock's post here is an accurate depiction of how Chez played.

Ironically this is not even true. D3 chezinu votes for anyone because he is the main lynch target, as townie aswell.

And jock was the player who did what you described. The only reason jock voted for me was because he didnt want to have a lylo with rayn + chezinu. This is laughably idiotic for three reasons. One. Chezinu was his top scumread. Two, he could have lynched chezinu instead of me. Three, I already said i wont vote for jock because gb makes terrible setups and it makes him town.

Basically jock was the only player who did a scummy self-preservation vote and even did that wrong.

But hey he got the lylo he wanted so i guess he is happy now!!

I really like slam but i think if i choose to play again i am not gonna want to play a game with someone who just does random shit and kind of keeds to just be eliminated unless you want mafia to have +1 player in town... it's just not fun. I mean like slam simply just voted against everything he said before, all game long. LOL.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 13:15 GMT
#1067
It is not that, it's just that i dont see why chezinu wouldnt have voted like he did as town either. Well i dont really know if he WOULDNT have, but i know he SHOULDNT have, because its just stupid to lynch yourself lol..

Also i dont really care abot being lynched. If i did i would have probably voted for chezinu in any world. Sadly i didnt think he is mafia.

I also find it more pleasing the game ended as it did than voting for chezinu because of the way D3 went.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-20 17:21:12
July 20 2020 17:19 GMT
#1071
On July 21 2020 00:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It is not that, it's just that i dont see why chezinu wouldnt have voted like he did as town either. Well i dont really know if he WOULDNT have, but i know he SHOULDNT have, because its just stupid to lynch yourself lol..

Also i dont really care abot being lynched. If i did i would have probably voted for chezinu in any world. Sadly i didnt think he is mafia.

I also find it more pleasing the game ended as it did than voting for chezinu because of the way D3 went.


You are correct in a purely objective sense: it makes sense for a "townie" to do what he needs to do to survive.

However, other town players (jock, VE, slam, etc.) were not purely "trying to survive" - they were pushing lynches, often by creating "binary" choices between themselves and their scumreads. These binary choices put the town players in serious danger. The actions by players who did this are strong town tells. Chez's play is absent of this.

I raise the point of Chez's play to contrast it with how town players were acting, as opposed to calling Chez's play "scummy". Chez played objectively well, but nonethless, his play stands out.

I disagree here.

Jock wanted to lynch Chezinu. He voted for me only after VE said he is considering voting for slam (which he never did so if jock had stayed on his vote it doesnt matter where slam AND Chezinu vote, his #1 scumread still gets lynched).

I also think pushing these "binary choices" are actually scum motivated. It's easy to say this or that as mafia (hell people can even agree with it) to make way for yourself to vote for the two "scummiest" people without reasoning it better, because the "town" agrees. Also jock did it 100% wrong in the end, do you agree? Just read lol...

Slam should have been lynched. Like really, D2 i wanted to lunch him when jock claimed but i convinced myself otherwise because shockeyy didnt vote for mafia D1 (when i thought he should have) and slam did. I dare to say even if you are sure slam is town you win in lylo lynching him over me yhis game D3.

VE was always town. I agree you cant tell eho night killed someone N1 but you can tell who didnt. Me and VE never shoot TT there, period. Maybe its vecause of experience that other people lack, but yeah, me and VE were always town after that nk.

Slam was just shit and should have been lynched. I made a post about it and it was accurate. All game ve is mafia vote anyone who is not ve!??????? Fucking shit slam. At least try to do something...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:09 GMT
#1073
On July 21 2020 03:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
The only person who should have been lynched was chez because he was mafia. Don't forget the objective of the game, which pretty much ignores what you think is the 'correct' lynch in favor of lynching mafia.



So you didnt lynch mafia D3 when you could decide on it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:10 GMT
#1074
Being right or wrong is one thing.
You just played shit AND were wrong (because of your shit thing)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:11 GMT
#1075
And no you didnt. Bow youre just an ass.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:11 GMT
#1076
So fuck you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:17 GMT
#1079
On July 21 2020 04:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
Well you know what rayn you can have the forum to yourself and play by yourself and then maybe everyone playing will live up to your standards.

Shut up and live up to your mistakes for once?
I didnt have chezinu as mafia. Thats mine.
You fucked up otherwise, why do you want to rub it on my face? Hi tracker, unccd after d2 lives and gets killed in lylo, sure you did everything right???? Fuck tou just fyck yoy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:18 GMT
#1080
You were the worst townie in the game.
Period.

When you fuck with me i give what you deserve.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 20 2020 19:46 GMT
#1082
gg
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