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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 12:45 GMT
#623
But anyways, that doesnt make rayn mafia, as you said. There is no way rayn knows that you could be a tracker, knowing him he could have waited to read the thread and kinda see who could be a blue role and blame another person not just exactly you.

You make it sound like he prepared a big plan after you.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 12:46 GMT
#624
On July 12 2020 21:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2020 21:43 CopCake wrote:
Btw I missunderstood something, I read that you got a check on rayn visiting TT, that is why I suggested that maybe the other mafia was a framer.


No I checked TT and got nothing.


Yes! i know now :p I didnt understood at first which is why I got all ???? Because even if you tracked rayn, the possibility of a frame role is there.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 12:47 GMT
#625
Btw I want to share that can it be general approve that slam is more likely town?

Slam-tfrl team seems like the most difficult and unlikely scenario so far.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 12:51 GMT
#628
Well anyways, I doubt rayn is mafia, he could have killed you and get TT lynch you the next day, duh.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:12 GMT
#634
On July 12 2020 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE and Cake, who would you have killed if you were mafia? What would your game plan be after Trfel is dead?


Well, after my last minute vote I would have gained “town” trust and maybe not sent a kill, thinking or making think the town that there was a roleblock going on, that or I would have killed Slam because c’mon, inactive and less likely to be protected besides his vote I think totally makes him town and harder to shade.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:18 GMT
#635
Like, it would had been a good scenario.

Me and tfrl mafia. Knowing tfrl is busy or something and making a plan so one carries the game. Still very hard to pull off but I would have felt confident to continued it.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:27 GMT
#638
I dont think anyone besides you knows my “cool” mafia game when I am mafia (and havent been a while on site) so the framing thing is a card hard to believe that is happening if you are town rayn.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:35 GMT
#640
That a play to “frame cake” can never happen unless you decide to make it, you are the only person that know how good I can be as a “red role”, the times I have been mafia on TL I Have been terrible.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:37 GMT
#641
Now I am all paranoid and thinking that maybe you brought that up to lynch me in the future lmao.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:41 GMT
#645
On July 12 2020 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2020 23:35 CopCake wrote:
That a play to “frame cake” can never happen unless you decide to make it, you are the only person that know how good I can be as a “red role”, the times I have been mafia on TL I Have been terrible.

I dont think that has anything to do with what i know or dont know, because noone here in this game knows what i know or dont know. I think that's a reasonably possible play for someone to try.


Not with the “I got tfrl lynched” card. Hard to pull off.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:47 GMT
#651
On July 12 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2020 23:41 CopCake wrote:
On July 12 2020 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 12 2020 23:35 CopCake wrote:
That a play to “frame cake” can never happen unless you decide to make it, you are the only person that know how good I can be as a “red role”, the times I have been mafia on TL I Have been terrible.

I dont think that has anything to do with what i know or dont know, because noone here in this game knows what i know or dont know. I think that's a reasonably possible play for someone to try.


Not with the “I got tfrl lynched” card. Hard to pull off.

The thing is if you did not vote for Trfel everything is hard to pull off.
And everyone who voted for Trfel can just kill everyone else in the Trfel wagon beside themselves and win.


In a game where there can be a doctor, a tracker, veteran and a jailkeeper besides the cop, why would I send a kill when I can easily send “no kill” and have town paranoid that maybe one of the power roles got in?

Town would have lynched TT, shockey, jock, ve, so easy.

Either way, killing slam or the no kill would had been my thing. If you think that mafia wanted to frame me with the odd kill (aka because TT voted me or just because the action itself) would had been a very very dumb move.

I think mafia followed your plan or just killed someone that was more likely not to get protected, or both.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 14:52 GMT
#653
On July 12 2020 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2020 23:41 CopCake wrote:
On July 12 2020 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 12 2020 23:35 CopCake wrote:
That a play to “frame cake” can never happen unless you decide to make it, you are the only person that know how good I can be as a “red role”, the times I have been mafia on TL I Have been terrible.

I dont think that has anything to do with what i know or dont know, because noone here in this game knows what i know or dont know. I think that's a reasonably possible play for someone to try.


Not with the “I got tfrl lynched” card. Hard to pull off.

The thing is if you did not vote for Trfel everything is hard to pull off.
And everyone who voted for Trfel can just kill everyone else in the Trfel wagon beside themselves and win.


Welp, imagine being mafia in the tfrl wagon, you have cake, rayn, chezinu and slam.

Who would you kill?

Obvious option is you but you are more likely to get protection.
Then why not cake?
Not slam?
Not chezinu?

That is the problem.

Like we are harder to misslynch than the others (jock,ve,shockey)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 15:10 GMT
#655
Ok Rayn, let’s play a game.

If someone from Tfrl’s wagon is mafia who is it?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 15:14 GMT
#659
On July 13 2020 00:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chez, he's going to lengths to take credit for the trfel wagon imo.


This is what I am thinking too lmao.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 15:18 GMT
#663
On July 13 2020 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 00:10 CopCake wrote:
Ok Rayn, let’s play a game.

If someone from Tfrl’s wagon is mafia who is it?

You or Slam. Probably you.


Why me and why slam over chezinu?

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 15:39 GMT
#666
The problem is this:

You asked to target TT or Jock

If there is a jailkeeper is more likely that it would target Jock, if there is a tracker or a cop is more likely would target TT because people suspected more jock and shockey at the time so Jock would be the easy pick from your suggestion.

So TT could had been a easy choice to kill and have the tracker action wasted because it would have cleared someone else. If there is a veteran it doesnt matter lol. If there is a doc I think would have been to protect you, since I doubt the jailkeeper would protect a town but rather block someone suspicious rn.(Jock)

So I think besides the “let’s blame cake” for the TT kill, I think mafia knew what they were doing with that kill and wasnt that much “dumb” at all. If Jock was the kill or even Shockey yeah it would had been dumb but I dont think that the TT kill was that bad. It was well planned because of your direction. The town leader.





CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 15:48 GMT
#668
You have to stop to think “jailkeeper would had always targeted me” because as mafia, you need to think in worse case scenarios, what if the jailkeeper targets the same person as me?

The jailkeeper blocks and protects, if the jailkeeper thinks you have a blue role, why would he protect you when he could block one of the suspicious persons? What makes you think the jailkeeper will protect instead of block?

🤷🏽‍♀️

All I am saying is that TT’s kill was well planned with your “direction”

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 15:54 GMT
#670
Btw, I am just playing scenarios because I dont think slam is mafia, I am not mafia and it would be very tin foil if you were mafia.

Jock’s claim on tracker quits him out of the equation now because there is no cc and to do that as mafia is quite dumb.

What I want you to see is that the TT kill is not that dumb as you think it is.







CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 15:55 GMT
#671
So at the end of the day, if someone is mafia in the tfrl wagon is chezinu.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 12 2020 16:16 GMT
#679
On July 10 2020 02:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Day 1 - FINAL Vote Count:


Trfel (4): Alakaslam, Chezinu, Raynpelikoneet, CopCake
Alakaslam (3): VisceraEyes, Trfel, ShoCkeyy, CopCake
Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop, Copcake
CopCake (1): Tictock


Not Voting (0):

Trfel was lynched.

Votes are not counted unless posted in the Voting Thread!
Voting is mandatory!



Plurality Lynch: The person with the most votes gets lynched. in the event of a tie, the player that first received enough votes will be lynched.
until deadline.


Tfrl last words were “look at slam, he is mafia” when the two biggest close to get lynched was him and tfrl.

Why would tfrl throws slam? Would it clear him? Slam was about to get lunched yo.




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