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[M][N] Holy Guardians - Cpt 3 - Page 4

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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 09 2020 19:20 GMT
#435
I think its this one rayn:

On July 09 2020 17:33 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 17:25 CopCake wrote:
I am going to wait for him to see his defense but I agree with you on that or at least I like your pov.


I'd like to know what VE thinks about it too, considering he was on slam before and now they are on trfel together. VE's vote on slam was an early randomish vote but he continued to suspect him, or at least shade his reads, later on too.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 07:02 GMT
#491
On July 10 2020 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to figure out why Jock didn't vote.


Basically after the last game I didn't wanna be the guy who lynched someone last second for bad reasons again, and i wasn't that sure of my reason for wanting slam dead. I also wasn't overly bothered about saving trfel, even though i was suspicious of his wagon.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 07:37 GMT
#494
On July 10 2020 16:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hmm... i dont really believe that. I dont think you suspected me, or chezinu, cake hadnt even voted until last second and slam was the opposing wagon which you should have voted if you suspected him.

I dont think it really adds up.


fine
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 09:14 GMT
#496
On July 10 2020 17:50 CopCake wrote:
Jock can you elaborate a list of who do you think is mafia and who is town with reasons?


Sure

Town:
Copcake: Seems like putting genuine effort into figuring stuff out. A bit tunnelled on TT imo but nothing suspicious about it.
Rayn: Pushed for the trfel lynch pretty hard

Probably town:
Chez + slam simply for killing trfel when it was unnecessary for mafia to do so.

^^ I would never lynch any of these, at least not on day 2 unless there's a check or something.

So scum is between VE, tictock and shockeyy

I like VE's posting, especially after the flip so personally it looks likely that its going to be between shockeyy and tictock tomorrow. Shockeyy had literally nothing to say about my case on him, which is slightly odd, and he's my number one suspect.
I really don't know about tictock. He's suspicious in the same way i am, not voting on wagon, but I never really believed in your case on him and nothing has really changed since then.

So from towniest to scummiest:
jock
copcake
rayn
chez
slam
VE
tictock
shockeyy

The only other thing i'm taking into consideration is that i've seen rayn bus someone (eversince I think??) from day 1 when they've been unsure about their ability to be active in game before, but that's something to think about if the game gets later on.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 11:37 GMT
#502
On July 10 2020 20:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jock why does Chez get points for killing Trfel? Could he not have been an absent partner who accidentally left his vote where it shouldn't have been?


Chez accidentally bussed his partner? I don't see it. He always parks his vote on day 1 and i would be very surprised if he left it on his mafia partner. Can't rule it out I guess but I see it as unlikely and am ruling out lynching him day 2.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 16:28 GMT
#505
On July 11 2020 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Jock I didn't say anything about your case cause I'm not mafia... I don't give two shits about your case against me. But I definitely think that mafia has to be between yourself, slam and VE only because one of them are trying to push me as the wagon for D2, which I doubt will work.

If its so unlikely to work why would mafia be doing it? Wouldn't they be better off pushing the wagon that would work?

Anyway i'm trying to push you as the wagon for D2 because I think you're mafia.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 16:46 GMT
#507
On July 11 2020 01:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2020 01:28 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 11 2020 01:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Jock I didn't say anything about your case cause I'm not mafia... I don't give two shits about your case against me. But I definitely think that mafia has to be between yourself, slam and VE only because one of them are trying to push me as the wagon for D2, which I doubt will work.

If its so unlikely to work why would mafia be doing it? Wouldn't they be better off pushing the wagon that would work?

Anyway i'm trying to push you as the wagon for D2 because I think you're mafia.


And you're not mafia, don't you think mafia!slam or mafia!VE are obviously going to push along with you? It would be easier to push me when there's already what seems to be 3 votes on me.


Its possible. I don't think its obvious at all though. If you aren't mafia, then clearly the probability goes up that that will happen, but I'm a long way from believing it right now.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 17:16 GMT
#511
This night kill is like.......
whaaaaaaaaaat?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 17:18 GMT
#512
I can only think of 3 reasons for mafia to kill TT

1: TT's filter helps them.
2: Mafia is not suspected and comfortable so killing TT doesn't strangle them
3: WIFOM


RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 17:19 GMT
#513
Maybe 4: Tictock was dangerous to them
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 17:23 GMT
#515
On July 11 2020 02:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
Maybe 4: Tictock was dangerous to them


Although I doubt this because it would have been easy to get a lynch on TT today.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 17:24 GMT
#516
On July 11 2020 02:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe 5, doctor/watcher dodging. Maybe 6 there was personal beef. Do we wanna keep doing this?

er...

analyzing the game?
Yeah i'm gonna keep on at it if you don't mind
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 17:34 GMT
#519
On July 11 2020 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nightkills are specifically designed by mafia. U feel free to bark up that tree. 😋


I've caught mafia from nightkills before. I've seen it happen here a bunch of times.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 10 2020 17:40 GMT
#520
It makes me feel like i'm being pushed at shockeyy and vica versa. One of the main alternatives is gone.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 11 2020 03:40 GMT
#550
On July 11 2020 11:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holy God there's even a fucking button for it, some people AMIRITE

On July 11 2020 11:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2020 05:14 CopCake wrote:
Nah, if VE was mafia he would kill rayn on a heart beat I think

Killing TT is a very “Cake” move, or someone who believed rayn would get doctored/jailed/something

So whoever killed TT it is someone very wary of night actions.

Cake knows.

TELL IM GUUUUUURL

On July 11 2020 11:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm like FUCK those power roles RAYN GOTTA DIE!!!!!

And then the next day I'd be all "OMG NO DEATH LAWWWWWLLLL NEEEWWWWWBBB MAAAAAAAFFFFFFF"

It would be so glorious. I almost wish I was mafia just to do it.

On July 11 2020 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn can't get me D1 and chances are I'd be the maf power role anyway so all this is moot the day would have played out SOOOO differently if I were mafia you guys have NO IDEA.

On July 11 2020 11:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I would have soft guided rayn to a mislynch instead....PROBABLY ON Trfel who, in this world, is likely town instead! WHAT FUN!!!

And then D2 would be a shouting match between me and rayn because he'll want to lynch my partner and I'll have "a hard townread" on my partner, and "IF YOU'D JUST LISTEN TO ME ABOUT CAKE SHE'S THE REAL VILLAIN HERE!!!"

OMG it could've been worth the name Holy Guardians.

[image loading]
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 11 2020 04:11 GMT
#551
On July 11 2020 12:38 Chezinu wrote:

I'm freaking out at you mixing it all together like that.

*shudders*
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 11 2020 04:26 GMT
#555
On July 11 2020 13:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should have strained the strawberries first Chez.

Soaking the sponge in brandy or rum first is a good shout if you like booze.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 11 2020 04:27 GMT
#556
On July 11 2020 13:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jock I'd prefer if you commented on the game relevant shit that happened rather than my random coke-rabbit musings.

its 5:30am and i'm wasted so i probably shouldn't be posting at all.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 11 2020 04:32 GMT
#560
On July 11 2020 13:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Namely that Shockeyy made a fucking balls case on me and I shat on it and he just disappeared. That's fucking scummy.

I really can't see a world where shockeyy kills Tictock.
I'm gonna have to be convinced to get over that before EoD if you want me on a shockeyy wagon.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
July 11 2020 04:35 GMT
#563
On July 11 2020 13:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2020 13:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 11 2020 13:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Namely that Shockeyy made a fucking balls case on me and I shat on it and he just disappeared. That's fucking scummy.

I really can't see a world where shockeyy kills Tictock.
I'm gonna have to be convinced to get over that before EoD if you want me on a shockeyy wagon.

I mean, he DID literally just use it as the entire basis of his case on me. So like....he does it intending to frame me? It's not a stretch at all.

I'll think about it tomorrow (this is an instruction to future jock)

Peace
RIP Meatloaf <3
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