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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 08 2020 20:57 GMT
#262
On July 09 2020 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk if you should know that that does not make Slam mafia.

I'll give you this for free: I'm using little to no meta this game. I'm assuming most of it is trash because I've played so little.


Meta's change so much in every game. I hardly ever try to use meta. I'm a vote counter myself.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-08 22:32:27
July 08 2020 22:32 GMT
#279
My current thoughts are:

Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes
Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop
VisceraEyes (1): Tictock
Tictock (1): Copcake
jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam

One of these fuckers are mafia 100%.

I meant the ones voting.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 08 2020 22:37 GMT
#282
So I accidentally edited... my post.

I literally posted this first:

My current thoughts are:

Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes
Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop
VisceraEyes (1): Tictock
Tictock (1): Copcake
jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam

One of these fuckers are mafia 100%.

Then tried to quote and add this:

I meant the ones voting.

Sorry I've been drunk since the start of the game.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 08 2020 23:04 GMT
#286
On July 09 2020 07:57 Tictock wrote:
I'm not sure what to make of Sho. I don't hate his posting or anything, and while I feel his attitude is very different to D1 last game I don't put a huge stock in meta.

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On July 09 2020 02:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm still drunk, how the fuck did we add 5 pages overnight... Why is no one ever playing when I'm playing? >:[


This is the only post that bugs me. Untill recently (anf after this post mind you) Sho hasn't played more than making a post or two then being absent for awhile. This complaint feels out of place. Also to a lesser degree he keeps claiming he is drunk posting.

In other news Slam feels pretty town to me.


I'm day drinking and night drinking and Bamou keeps fucking trying to cut me off.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 08 2020 23:15 GMT
#289
On July 09 2020 08:10 Tictock wrote:
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On July 09 2020 08:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On July 09 2020 07:57 Tictock wrote:
I'm not sure what to make of Sho. I don't hate his posting or anything, and while I feel his attitude is very different to D1 last game I don't put a huge stock in meta.

On July 09 2020 02:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm still drunk, how the fuck did we add 5 pages overnight... Why is no one ever playing when I'm playing? >:[


This is the only post that bugs me. Untill recently (anf after this post mind you) Sho hasn't played more than making a post or two then being absent for awhile. This complaint feels out of place. Also to a lesser degree he keeps claiming he is drunk posting.

In other news Slam feels pretty town to me.


I'm day drinking and night drinking and Bamou keeps fucking trying to cut me off.


Sounds like Bamou is looking out for you.

What are you avoiding?


Nothing I just like drinking. I like the taste of beer and scotch mostly.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 08 2020 23:16 GMT
#290
On July 09 2020 08:07 Tictock wrote:
Rayn I don't expect much, but can you throw a bit to help me understand why you feel Chez is town?

I get he is sorta claiming his "character name" but I don't see how that helps identify him as town. As far as I am aware we all received a character for flavor purposes but doesn't determine alignment.

Trfel's only post is hot garbage. Excuse into throwing shade based on what happend in another game.


Rayn and chez always town read each other from my experience with them
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 06:46 GMT
#304
On July 09 2020 15:26 CopCake wrote:
Oh it seems you all decided to lynch Tfrl. Anyways, inactivite doesnt equal mafia.


Who’s you all?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 16:21 GMT
#354
I just woke up. Catching up.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 16:45 GMT
#366
On July 09 2020 16:08 CopCake wrote:
Shockey I am glad you are here. Tell me, did you consider Tfrl to be active last game? Why do you think he is getting lunched by the citizens?


Trfel was pretty inactive last game, I think it didn't help us at all. I think there's definitely at least one mafia on him at this point.

On July 09 2020 16:52 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 07:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
My current thoughts are:

Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes
Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop
VisceraEyes (1): Tictock
Tictock (1): Copcake
jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam

One of these fuckers are mafia 100%.

I meant the ones voting.


shockeyy can you explain to me as if i'm a small moronic being (a child) how you came to this conclusion?


Mafia trying to start a wagon in front of our faces?

On July 10 2020 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 09 2020 23:22 CopCake wrote:
Ticktock Thinks VE used his post to vote for slam
Shades Shockey
Gives me a town pass in the middle of the dirk gently talk
Votes for VE
More shade at shockey
Slam is town
Cake is mafia because she speaks random shit but slam also does the same

Nope.

First i am gonna say something about this. I don't really think your case on TT is good at all. From what i see you're accusing him of the following things:
Show nested quote +
(1) Last few posts she is fighting against Trfel being lynched because "he was inactive and town last game" yet here she has him as mafia (and this was after his post) as well as Chez. So basically the 2 most inactive ppl this game.

(2) Her scumread on me is also really off. Like it reads more like she decided to push me and just keeps saying "I dont buy him being town" or "this feels off" but never explains.

(1) I don't really think there is anything scummy in this train of thought? I mean like he is just saying what you did and i can easily see how someone thinks that makes another person mafia. I don't think it makes you mafia but that's what you did yourself and it IS contradictory whether you like it or not.
(2) Really off or not but once again, that's what you did. I still have no clue of why you think TT is mafia besides "don't trust TT as town" (which doesn't really mean anything) and this post i quoted from you (which i understand none of). And him making a case on you. But the case is definitely not scummy. It can be wrong sure but it definitely does not make TT mafia.

Him forgetting Chezinu is not scummy ever because as Jock said it doesn't even make any sense as mafia. Like there is no reason he should ever think he can gain something by lying about that as mafia regardeless of Chezinu's team.




Another thing i wanted to talk about is Shockeyy. I don't really think Jock's case makes Shockeyy mafia. (I do though think it probably makes Jock town so something good there ). I think you're looking "similar" things in "wrong" perspective. Imo you cannot compare vote count analysis from D1 to other days (which you were doing) because you don't know any alignments, so basically the VCA D1 is a crapshot. Now you are right that it is indeed weird Shockeyy is doign that with ONE vote on several people, and i definitely would want to hear his logic behind this.

However, aside fro mthis, i think how shockeyy handled the after-drunken-posting (when he returned) in a really townie way. I don't think he overplayed anything and basically shockeyy's jam D1 is that D1 is useless and he can't have any reads. I think he is playing "towards that" fairly "well", and it fits his town MO imo. I got a small nagging feeling about him actually having town reads so early but that's pretty much all that i think could possibly make shockeyy mafia. But yeah, let's play this a bit further:

Shockeyy you said this:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 07:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
My current thoughts are:

Alakaslam (1): VisceraEyes
Shockeyy (1): Jockmcplop
VisceraEyes (1): Tictock
Tictock (1): Copcake
jockmcplop (1): Alakaslam

One of these fuckers are mafia 100%.

I meant the ones voting.

So you think you are town (obviously), that leaves me, Chezinu and Trfel as the people who are not voting. Why cannot Trfel and Chezinu be mafia together (assuming you think i am town)?




Firstly, i have to say that i think there is no reason why Trfel's scumbuddy isn't possibly voting for him right now assuming Trfel is mafia. Votes on him (aside from me and maybe Chezinu?) are basically because he is inactive. That's easy to fix, Trfel just starts posting and you can take off the vote on your scumbuddy. No harm done.

However i actually do think Trfel's post in itself looks like a mafia post. Basically i see Trfel as paerson who investigates things and asks questions because there is some sort of contradiction to his own thought process of how things should go and he tries to figure out what the person thinks and if it makes sense or not. See for example him questioning Cake last game at the start of the game.

This post though:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2020 01:57 Trfel wrote:
Completely forgot about this game.

On July 08 2020 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well TT is town so there is that. I think there is a huge difference already in how he approaches the game in comparison to the last game.
I thought Tictock was pretty towny last game, care to explain this?

...doesn't reall show any of this. First of all the whole question i nthe first place about TT is really stupid and shows no thinking behind it at all. Because TT was fucking mafia in the last game!!!! Trfel thinking TT was town last game doesn't mean shit because Trfel was WRONG and if TT is town this game, there FOR SURE is a difference in his play (regardless of if anyone can notice it or not at that point). Like the whole question feels like a throwaway thing based on no thinking at all. It just.... doesn't make any sense to me that THIS is what Trfel has to say when he comes and posts. Coming in late makes it more likely you make mistakes as mafia, and i think Trfel made on here.

Also a smaller point is that yeah, as i said earlier, people who feel the need to tell that they forgot about the game starting (regardless of if it is true or not) are more likely to be mafia. That's a fact. No matter when you start posting there should be no reason for a townie to feel the need to explain why they haven't been posting so far.


I thought about Trfel and Chez being mafia together, but that would be way too easy to find. I at least think there is currently one active mafia.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 16:46 GMT
#367
Lol cop wtf is that vote, I suspected Jock to vote for me not you to vote for me...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 16:47 GMT
#369
I actually don't think Trfel is mafia here. Sadly he might get lynched anyways.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 16:49 GMT
#373
Idk but I voted slam since his posts don't read that he's trying to solve the game imo
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 16:55 GMT
#378
sorry i had to jump on a work call just an fyi
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 17:07 GMT
#388
WTF WAS TRFEL?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 17:09 GMT
#392
Oh that must suck for his partner him being afk most of the game. However good for us.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 17:10 GMT
#393
On July 08 2020 08:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Who's Bamou and who's Fischer? Cause fuck those guys. GG. I already figured the game out. Sorry I'm drunk.

##vote rayn


Called it, now who's Fischer?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 17:12 GMT
#396
:O can't be
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 17:17 GMT
#398
I feel terrible voting for slam, however, now that trfel was rolecop, it makes me suspect Jock and Tictock more to be the other half >:O
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 17:19 GMT
#399
Yea Rayn, I had a feeling you might of been Fischer but I didn't want to believe it. I literally called Fischer out because of this line:

On July 08 2020 01:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Something is very fishy.


Game has started, the deadline for the day is Thursday, Jul 09 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in

VOTE THREAD HERE (CLICK ME)

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 09 2020 17:32 GMT
#406
On July 10 2020 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know that flavor has nothing to do with the game right?


BS then how did I guess Bamou? The flavor helped me pick him out. From my experience with mafia flavor is also part of the game.

On July 10 2020 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 10 2020 02:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I feel terrible voting for slam, however, now that trfel was rolecop, it makes me suspect Jock and Tictock more to be the other half >:O

Why not VE instead of let's say Jock?


If I recall, VE sounded more towny towards his EOD and convo with Cake. Jock seemed to just stick to me, which is typical mafia behavior when I'm playing.
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