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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 08 2020 20:35 GMT
#768
Like i dont even fucking think either of vivax or shockeyy are even TRYING to read my posts.... Both of them have just decided what my scumreads really are roflmao.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 08 2020 20:36 GMT
#769
You can bring any guns you want and idgaf. I am fone here lol.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 19:52 GMT
#837
What the fuck is going on?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 19:53 GMT
#838
TT you need to vote for shockeyy if you're town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 19:53 GMT
#839
Same to you Vivax.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:00 GMT
#844
Okay.
##unvote
##vote Vivax
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:13 GMT
#847
Now this is for later. I am done telling why i think people are town so here's why people are mafia. This is what i said at the start of the day:
On June 08 2020 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Its very simple. Zey is not mafia and Tt and vivax are not in a million years mafia together. Basically shockeyy has to be mafia with either one of them. I probably gave keys to mafia!vivax for winning the game if he is indeed mafia but i really didnt anticipate jeekaka to die. But it is what it is now.


This is what Vivax' "interpretation" of what i said is:
On June 09 2020 01:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2020 01:01 Zey wrote:
Vivax wrote:
Well no he isn't forced to vote Shockeyy. He could vote TT too, but decided not to for reasons I can only guess.

Well that's my point (except you shouldn't guess reasons anymore because rayn already told us why he is voting Sho)


His only reason for voting Sho is true only if rayn is town which you think is always true.
He didn't give a single reason for Sho to be mafia. Just said he can be the only mafia besides TT, so he should vote TT, but he votes Sho instead.

On June 09 2020 01:08 Vivax wrote:
His entire Shockeyy vote is based on who can be mafia with TT, so he should vote TT, but votes Shockeyy instead. Very weak reasoning when he's treating TT as the confirmed mafia.

On June 10 2020 04:18 Vivax wrote:
I really don't know why TT is bothering. You could post a mafia role pm and zey would still vote for Shockeyy because both her and rayn think that Shockeyy is mafia because he's the only one who can be scum with TT.

Somehow they push the narrative that the game is TT + X and we always lynch X first.

And I'm saying this for the third or fourth time.

I have never in this game said TT is confirmed mafia. I have never in this game said mafia is TT + X. Whoever can go to my filter and read what i said. IF Vivax thinks my read progression is bullshit he should say it's bullshit but he isn't saying so. He is just straight out fucking lying of what my read progression is while being pointed out multiple times it was NEVER what i even EVER said.

Then this is what shockeyy says about who i think are mafia:
On June 09 2020 05:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Rayn, if you're town, you obviously think Vivax and Tictock are mafia, why don't you vote for Tictock? Or do you really think I'm mafia?

Like what is this even? Can this dude even read the posts or what? Before this he claims i have scumread everyone left in the game. Right or wrong idc, but i then i should think TT is definitely mafia otherwise it makes me mafia if i dont???? And once again shockeyy has literally done nothing but omgus people whoever were suspicious of him all game long. Go read his filter and look at his literally every single scumread ever.

And Vivax claims this dude is definitely town guised under his master PoE (which btw i am also part of).

I call 100x bullshit. So stop being an idiot TT. Okay?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:23 GMT
#850
Don't care. You tried to bullshit your way through lylo.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:23 GMT
#851
Like literally only and nothing but bullshitting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:31 GMT
#852
Here's another point. Do you realise that Shockeyy GAVE UP before TT ever arrived back to the thread. There is simply no reason to give up for shockeyy at that point (as the votes are 2-2) unless shockeyy thinks TT is mafia and that would mean one of me and zey is town (and voting for him -> giving mafia a win). But when TT comes back and votes for Zey, hooray the mafia team suddenly changes into rayn + zey!

Like there is simply no reason ever shockeyy should just buy that at face value, because for GIVING UP he must be REALLY FUCKING SURE that TT is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:33 GMT
#854
I understand that shockeyy regardless of alignment is going to vote for whoever is not himself but it STILL doesnt mean his reads should change like that. I doesnt make sense in any townie world.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:34 GMT
#855
Like his read on TT was so strong he literally gave up!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 20:34 GMT
#856
And surprise, it also works the other way, if shockeyy is mafia and TT is not, that makes sense he gives up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 21:00 GMT
#859
On June 10 2020 05:45 Vivax wrote:
The winner of this game is rayns third party of forum friends that play to help, not to win.

Can you at least stop being a massive dick towards people who actually play the game, in contrary to your laziness and ignorance to realise what posts that are clearly written actually say? Not only did you call me a rame ruiner for some unknown reason, but you also had to attack Zey personally because of her trying to politely ask you to explain comments that are straight out bullshit. I dont even know what you have against jeekaka? Maybe you're mad because she called you mafia or some other shit that's in your head....

Don't blame other people for your own bad play, regardless of your alignment. Because you did play bad. As town or as mafia. I am not the nicest person here but you were really really being a dick here when you had no reason to be one other than your own bad play. Especially in case you're town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 21:04 GMT
#869
Huh GB could even tell how the game will go on every day. :O
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 21:09 GMT
#872
And GB threw it in the end...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 21:14 GMT
#877
On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again.

Well she was the most factually correct poster in the game D3. You and Vivax just created bullshit on the fly (as town lol) and tried to shove it down people's throats. Regardless of if you were right or wrong doesn't matter, i think i would have voted either of you in the end 100 times out of 100 if i was in her position.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 21:17 GMT
#884
On June 10 2020 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Thoughts:

Pretty simple narrative on this game. Town wasn't too active and ate itself alive while mafia watched. I don't think mafia had to push any objectives this game (except for mayyyybe LYLO).

I noticed that throughout the early stages of this game (early D1 and early D2), town seemed very reluctant to vote and push suspicions. This inevitably led to a scramble to vote in the last hours of the day. While active towns can get away with these scrambles, the inactivity of the town made these lynches very easy to manipulate. Mafia could simply divert suspicion off of a mafia lynch, and ignore the town while townies lynched themselves.

I dont think we manipulated anything? I didn't really have to do anything D1 because Vivax read me town for sauying "hi" and "no"... D2 i couldn't do anything. D3 vivax and shockeyy just buried themselves with straight out lying for ???? reason :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 21:20 GMT
#888
On June 10 2020 06:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again.

Well she was the most factually correct poster in the game D3. You and Vivax just created bullshit on the fly (as town lol) and tried to shove it down people's throats. Regardless of if you were right or wrong doesn't matter, i think i would have voted either of you in the end 100 times out of 100 if i was in her position.


So this post was bullshit?

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2020 09:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On June 06 2020 15:51 Trfel wrote:
I dunno Tictock, I'm having trouble getting much useful information from the posts you spoilered. Sorry

But seriously, I don't know why people really think I am mafia here. I can understand not thinking I am town, but I don't understand why everyone is so convinced I am mafia.

Yes, my activity was quite poor earlier. However, I've changed that now. I'm here, I'm present, I'm playing, I'm contributing quality thoughts. That's more than you can say for many of the players in this game.

So what if I find different things interesting than other people? Isn't that the beauty of the game, that different things stick out to different players? What a boring game it would be otherwise. How does that make me mafia?

Yes, my reads can change quickly. If you want meta, that's been a major mark of my town play the past few years (and unfortunately, is one of the main reasons why my lynch % has increased significantly), because I don't spend the time to review every little thing like I used to, so new information/new perspectives readily changes my reads. Fluid reads is generally considered a towny trait, as mafia have trouble changing their reads quickly. Especially when justified.

The one suspicious thing I've done is being wrong on CopCake. Granted, that was quite poor, and for that I (once again) apologize to all. But understand that I was in a rush to try and find something, as voting is mandatory in this game. Look at my play here, trying to analyze all of the possibilities and figure out the best lynch. This is how I play when I have more time and can analyze things more effectively. But in a five minute window or so, I'm not really sure what you expect from me.

I am really hesitant to say this, because saying this was a huge part of why I got lynched last game, but I'm probably not going to be around much tomorrow Which basically paints a huge target on my back saying "here mafia, come and lynch me." But it's unavoidable, I am busy with my family. Which is a lot of why I am spending so much time tonight trying to figure out the best lynch, because I can't tomorrow.

So there. Do whatever you want. But I think I've played a very reasonable game, I think I've put forth a decent scum pool and as time permits I'll keep working to find the mafia. I encourage everyone to re-evaluate and take a look at what I've posted. I encourage those scumreading Vivax to take another look. I am confident that mafia is riding all of the easy Trfel/Vivax scumreads and not justifying them well, just following thread sentiment (because they aren't well-justified reads). If you lynch me, that's on you.


So Trfel does a last minute switch to Zey but honestly, this was the most useful post of Trfel before he got voted off. I'm on the possible TicTock/? team. Zey and Jee keep voting together which is understandable if they've played together before. They rather piggy back off each other especially with one being AFK most of the time.

D1 Vote:
CopCake (4): Vivax, ShoCkeyy, Trfel, Jockmcplop
Vivax (3): raynpelikoneet, CopCake, TicTock
Trfel (2): Zey, Jeekaka

So if I look here, there's a definite three town on the copcake kill. Vivax to me actually feels very towny here, since town could of easily mislynched here and mafia didn't even want to touch with a twelve foot pool. Rayn sticks to Vivax D1 builds a "rapport" about Vivax to try and continue into D3 lynch.

Now D2 Vote:
Trfel (3): TicTock, Jeekaka, Zey
Zey (2): Vivax, Trfel
Vivax (1): Raynpelikoneet

I see the need for tictock as mafia to vote for Trfel. They need to kill off Trfel and Jee and Zey were easily going to follow since they voted for Trfel anyways in the previous vote. Rayn wasn't going to move because he didn't even want to save Trfel.

It's honestly believable that Tictock and Rayn are the scumteam.


She completely ignored anything we posted.

yes it was bullshit. why the fuck do we need to kill trfel???? Just because you think something doesnt mean that TT "needs to do something".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2020 21:24 GMT
#895
On June 10 2020 06:21 Vivax wrote:
Why did she clear TickTock who didn't play for the entire day?
It's obvious she didn't want to lynch him but at the start of the day was still floating him around in mafia combinations.

Because you filled your D3 reads with bullshit and she thought you are mafia which means i am not because you called me mafia for bullshit reasons and she had no choice other than to vote for shockeyy because i refused to vote for you until the end.

You should actually read the game some time.
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