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Then what is the last game? Because for sure the only game i could find is the Chili hop and she calls you 85% town at some point (when she talks about her read on you) and that was like top 2 or 3 town read.
Also i dont think i am falling into anything. Like i am literally trying to NOT fall into stuff like that based on games where i have seriously under-performed just because someone does something too scummy to be scum and i can't believe mafia can be that stupid. I am just calling out shit that is scummy and i think you and trfel are the scummiest by your actions in my opinion.
Like i dont really know what you want to do, Vivax. I know you want to lynch TT but i am most likely not going to do that even if i thought you are town. I actually do have a town read on him especially because of his actions eod1 -> . I did consider him mafia based on if shockeyy is town but then i decided that's a dumb metric since i dont really know what shockeyy is and he is following you and trfel in the scummy department.
i do have some reasons to discount Zey here. Not anything definite, which is why i have been posing some questions towards her. However, i dont mind the answers so far. I also think she's been having some observations that, right or wrong, look good on her. If we were playing in finnish i would definitely be more suspicious of her, but yeah.. I can see her being laid back being a result of a "new environment" up to some point. I dont know what you mean with the feeling pressured to read trfel in certain way though?
But well, let's make a deal Vivax. I am gonna consider you confirmed town until let's say 6 hrs before deadline. Convince me of anything you want to. Truth to be told i dont think i am gonna change my mind on you unless you make a pretty much slam dunk case, and i will help you in case you are up to that. You haven't showed the town!Vivax i know, i am gonna give you a chance. You either take it or leave it.
Also get rid of the PoE from D1, i think that's just stupid in case you're town. Because for me it looks like you're hiding behind your PoE just to avoid commenting on ACTUALLY good stuff people have brought on Trfel.
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Well i am going to let TT answer you before i am going to say anything.
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I am gonna ask you this though:On June 05 2020 22:58 Vivax wrote:
I mean the fact zey scumreads TT convinces me even further as if I could have hit a nerve mentioning the team because as I noticed last game mafia likes to tend to scumread each other.
I understand certain people do certain things but why would you assume OTHER people play mafia similarily??? I think it's a really dumb assumption and doesn't make much sense. If it was like that you could always tell who is mafia when you lynch the first one lol. 
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On June 06 2020 03:34 Zey wrote:Show nested quote +Tictock wrote:
When I said "from Trfel's filter the cake read kinda makes sense" what I meant is that his cake read didn't just appear or change when he reappeared. In my opinion it did just appear. Even if you forget what he said N1 and D1 on the last hour, still. I don't see any hint that Trfel would think that Cake is scum. Like here: Show nested quote +Trfel wrote:
I asked CopCake about her townread on Jockmcplop because she didn't say a key part of it, that Jockmcplop's post felt genuine/sincere. Without that statement, there is no actual reason to townread Jockmcplop. (1) I know it wasn't likely to really go anywhere, but it's the start of the game, I'll jump on anything I can Just like raynpelikoneet's entrance. (2)To me it was the worst entrance at that point in the thread, because he didn't interact with anyone despite several people having already posted. (3)But it's not a big deal and I don't think much of it. (1) If I'm understanding this right he is saying that his question to Cake didn't lead to any opinion about her and there wasn't even really a change to lead anywhere. (2) Trfel is saying that even rayns hi was scummier than Cakes townread on Jock. And (3) he doesn't really think that even that was scummy. So how you are thinking that Cake read didn't just appear?
so where is your vote gonna go?
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What has happened that every time Vivax doesn't flip after all you change your top scum to something that it wasn't before?
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On June 07 2020 20:03 Tictock wrote:
Fffffffff, dam I was really hoping Vivax flipping red was gonna end the gane.
I mean what the hell is this even??? Yo uwerent even voiting for Vivax??
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On June 07 2020 20:18 jeekaka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2020 20:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What has happened that every time Vivax doesn't flip after all you change your top scum to something that it wasn't before? Well since before you left the thread it had been quite obvious it was gonna be Trfel flip.
I am talking about the fact that after D1 TT changed his top scumread from Vivax to Trfel (i can see him doing that there as town). After this lynch he is mad(?) about Vivax not flipping red just to follow up that saying that Zey is his top scumread now??? I think that enforces the first point. And i think that's very inconvenient.
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On June 05 2020 07:05 Tictock wrote:That kinda sucks, and my towncircle has shrunk dramatically  Pretty sure we are in a Vivax/Trfel world though
Pretty sure he was.
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On June 05 2020 09:14 Tictock wrote:
I said I had stuff to say about Trfel, and to be honest Zey and Jeeka pretty much hit on it already but I'll briefly go over what I saw.
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So just because Trfel was not mafia this somehow makes Zey scummy? Because she made a good case (just wrong)?
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On June 06 2020 15:04 Tictock [u]talking about Trfel wrote:
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Multiple things make it like 99% likely you and Vivax are the scumteam here, like I'm pretty sure you even made some excuse for this not being Vivax's scumgame when I've heard multiple refferences to scum!Vivax playing a a rough but successful mafia game in the last game by breaking meta. His play this game makes a ton of sense to me as burnt out scum!vax not willing to make the effort again. Even besides Vivax though your EoD play and followup posts really make it hard to not see you as mafia here.
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Once again.
And then:
On June 06 2020 15:09 Tictock wrote:
Oh and re my read on Sho...
I'm kinda just living in the world where he's town due to Trfel/Vivax being scum... and I'm ok with it? I kinda dropped him from my world view for a bit near EoD and he's become a sortof white noise to the thread for me since....
Lol thinking about it now I know Sho has said things today, but I'm having a hard time thinking what any of it was >.<
into..
On June 06 2020 15:16 Tictock wrote:Dammit Trfel, I really wanna see you flip red today but now I'm worried if you flip town I'm not sure who is most likely scum besides Sho. WHICH just makes your vote on him the more aggravating to me
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On June 06 2020 15:18 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2020 15:15 Trfel wrote:
TicTock, if you are indeed town, I'm going to need to ask you to re-evaluate some things. Take another look at ShoCkeyy. Take another look at Vivax. Take another look at me. I don't really know why you think I am mafia, do explain? No silly associations, facts please. I'm gunna be honest, right now if I accept a world where you are town vivax could still be mafia, but I would easily lynch a few ppl before him. The Zey stuff is actually most interesting to me. Those posts I quoted gave me weird vibes.
into Zey is mafia. Sounds like bullshit.
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tbh i am not sure at all of what i want to do. i think a lot of people's scumreads at the moment is because of "this is how i feel like" and for me that's not what a mafia game should look like. i know people tend to do that but tbh it's one of the reasons i havn't made up more time for me to play this game. i am gonna read later today, and should i be alive at the start of D3 i am trying to focus more than i have so far. i have some ideas but nothing i would like to definitely share atm.
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idk what youre saying here vivax?
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On June 07 2020 22:52 Vivax wrote:
TT was saying Shock and zey had a staged conversation without thinking zey was mafia at that point.
maybe youre right there.
what's the point on me?
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The point that you seem to be interested in that post. Which i cant understand. Like you think for the post like 12 or whatever hours into D1 Jock posts a random comment of Zey that i disagree with, and that makes me afraid of him enough to kill him over the fact that he thinks you and trfel are mafia for basically the rest of the day and night? Is that it or what? Because you sure do have some point for picking that quote. So dont say there is "no point on me"...
I dont who is mafia with TT. And i dont plan on letting people know before the deadline tbh.
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On June 07 2020 09:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I see the need for tictock as mafia to vote for Trfel. They need to kill off Trfel and Jee and Zey were easily going to follow since they voted for Trfel anyways in the previous vote. Rayn wasn't going to move because he didn't even want to save Trfel.
It's honestly believable that Tictock and Rayn are the scumteam.
Why did mafia need to kill Trfel if me and TT are mafia?
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wait it's zey and shockeyy right? :D
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On June 06 2020 22:53 Zey wrote:
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ShoCkeyy (He seems to be that kind of player that it is hard to say which side he is. I have played before with someone like him so the weird stuff what he has done is more likely just his style not about his role. There isn’t anything that I could say he is town thought. So I have tried to keep on my mind the reasons why others think he is town or scum. What I have seen couple of players have suspect him with reasons that I think is only about his style (except for not playing for fun, which doesn’t seem like that to me). Jeekaka is thinking that Sho might be scum but the reasons are more about that Sho fits in many scumteam. Vivax seems to be only one who think Sho is town. The reasoning isn’t so bullet proof but it seems to take consider Shos playstyle. But I can’t really trust Vivax opinion because I think there is good change that he is mafia. So basically if Vivax isn’t scum it will make Sho townier to me. But otherwise I don’t know is he scum or not. But I think Trfel, Tictock and Vivax are more likely to be scums than Sho.)
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Everything here is NOT about what Shockeyy has done, but about what other people have instead.
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On June 07 2020 23:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2020 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The point that you seem to be interested in that post. Which i cant understand. Like you think for the post like 12 or whatever hours into D1 Jock posts a random comment of Zey that i disagree with, and that makes me afraid of him enough to kill him over the fact that he thinks you and trfel are mafia for basically the rest of the day and night? Is that it or what? Because you sure do have some point for picking that quote. So dont say there is "no point on me"...
I dont who is mafia with TT. And i dont plan on letting people know before the deadline tbh. Oh you thought it was about you? Interesting. I was more focused on Jock being early to call out zey. Your disagreement was kind of just a thing on top. Strikes me as a bit defensive with how you just reacted. But really, it wasn't about you, originally.
It's not defensive, because i dont know why you would point out my post in addition to jock's in case it was only about jock? What does my post there in addition to jock's matter?
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I mean like why dont you just point out what jock said about zey if your opinion is that he was on the right track on zey. Why do you need my post for that?
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