EPTOn June 10 2020 03:06 Tictock wrote:
Humm, ok.
Why not Vivax/Me?
Humm, ok.
Why not Vivax/Me?
Because Vivax did yesterday everything he could to make me vote you.
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Because Vivax did yesterday everything he could to make me vote you. | ||
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On June 10 2020 03:11 Tictock wrote: I thought I'd been in your scumlist for most of the game. Yep you were. And at N2 I was still thinking that you are. But just read what happened yesterday, I think it will explain a lot. | ||
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After those posts Shos answer was: Sho wrote #723: “Sure”, basically you and Ticktock are no where to be seen for these two days, yet I’m mafia... it all lies on Zey, and she isn’t going to vote outside of anybody you’re not voting for. This game is pretty much over and I rather not waste my time anymore. Sho wrote #724: Literally Rayn shot Jee cause she’s the only one that apparently would go against Rayn. Zey looks like she would never go against Rayn unless Jee says so. It’s ridiculous, but hey, abuse the system! Sho wrote #725: I’m going to not come back till d3 is over, I’m not moving my vote. Ticktock sudden absence is telling and Zey would rather ignore it cause Rayn thinks I’m mafia... So he couldn't argue against my points. As town I would think he would say ok, you have point here or something. Or argue why I'm wrong. He didn't do either he just ignored and get grumpy. | ||
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rayn wrote #722: Its very simple. Zey is not mafia and Tt and vivax are not in a million years mafia together. Basically shockeyy has to be mafia with either one of them. Vivax wrote #731 about rayn: Well no he isn't forced to vote Shockeyy. He could vote TT too, but decided not to for reasons I can only guess. Okay, maybe he didn't see yet rayns reasoning. But Vivax wrote #741: By the way, let me rephrase what rayn is saying: TT IS MAFIA BUT ONLY SHOCKEYY CAN BE MAFIA WITH HIM, SO LET'S VOTE SHOCKEYY. Here he must have seen rayns post because he is rephrasing that again -- except he is just ignoring what rayn said. | ||
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ShoCkeyy wrote: I don't bargain with terrorist (mafia in this case) Except you was so sure that TT and rayn are scums so you must have thought that I'm town so why wasn't you willing to discuss with me? | ||
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Vivax wrote #732: It's such a strange question. The only team that could be floating around your head is Shockeyy + Vivax if you think Shockeyy is mafia. Maybe Shockeyy + TickTock, in which case you should have no problem voting TickTock like now. If somebody thinks Sho/Vivax and Sho/Tik are the only possible scumpartners then why that person would never vote anybody else than Sho at lylo? Vivax is just trying to give reasoning but it just doesn't make any sense. | ||
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Vivax wrote #744: And do you know what pocketing means? It means rayn lulled you in by playing like he's your bodyguard. It's like you two play together at all times. So it's either you + TT and rayn is not playing to win, or it's rayn + TT but you think of rayn as your tip town friend without reconsidering. Vivax wrote #743: But whatever, it appears we play 'friendship mafia'. So instead of pointing where I got wrong (and I was willing to discuss and asking where my deduction went wrong if rayn is scum) he just accuse me not reconsidering rayn and just accusing about friendship mafia. If he is town and he think rayn is scum why doesn't he try to explain why my opinion about rayn is wrong, where my deduction is wrong. But nothing. It seems to me that there is anything wrong so he couldn't say anything and only thing he could was trying to appeal to emotions. | ||
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Sho wrote #751 trying to reason why you are scum: EVERYONE that has died at night has literally looked at tictock as scum. And here he is lying because jeekaka died at N2 and jeekaka wrote #655: I think TT:s progression has been quite towny and he's maybe still my closest townread jeekaka wrote #667 But now settling to that Zey->Tictock world looks worse on him. jeekaka wrote #668: Because they are basically my strongest town candidates right now XD So clearly jeekaka didn't think you are scum. | ||
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Tictock wrote: Zey reading into those posts, I'm not sure why that makes Sho scum. Like he seemed to be pretty locked into a world where Rayn/I are the scumteam and your points on rayn dont make a ton of sense to me. Okay. Imagine that you and rayn are scums. Why rayn won't stick with his opinion about Vivax being scum and didn't vote Vivax when day beginned? Why voting Sho will win the game for you and rayn? Sho shouldn't vote himself, right? Sho wasn't my top scumread so why would you and rayn think that I would vote Sho? And Vivax was 100 % sure that Sho is town so he wouldn't vote Sho either. So who is the town whose vote sum!you and scum!Sho will get that you will win the game? But if scum!rayn wouldn't said that Vivax is town and if scum!rayn would vote Vivax there would be good change that you would get me to vote Vivax (town here) and win the game. Please tell me where I'm going wrong here or why wasn't Sho intrested enough to ask more about my reasoning here (if I were unclear) or pointed out (with good reasoning) where my thinking was wrong and why you and rayn really are the scums? Tictock wrote: It actually does seem more to me like you spent a lot of time defending rayn there, and that is the main thing I get from those posts. I did because I believed (and still believe) that rayn is town. At the beginning of the day I thought you and Vivax were the most likely scums and Sho most likely to be town. So if Sho, rayn and I want to win all of us needs to vote the same person because if someone votes town then town loses. So that's why I thought it would be necessary that Sho believe that rayn is town and rayn also will vote you (or Vivax if that's more preferred by Sho or rayn). But I was also asking why my reasoning would be wrong that if there really is good reasoning why my deduction sucks I could reconsider rayn again. But that reasoning never came. Tictock wrote: What do you think about what I last noted about Vivax? I think you have a point and I think Vivax dodge your question. | ||
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ShoCkeyy wrote: Zey is only creating confusion between you and Vivax and it needs to stop. How I'm creating confusion if TT is reacting Vivaxs posts? :D | ||
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ShoCkeyy wrote: The smiley face is so scummy. Yep, that's explains a lot. x) | ||
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raynpelikoneet wrote: TT you need to vote for shockeyy if you're town. I think it's okay because with Vivax and Sho scumteam they don't have a change of win if town votes only scums and even if they decide to vote some town the first one getting two votes (in this case Sho) will die. But I still would like to vote Vivax, but I need you rayn vote also because I'm still not sure if TT is going to keep his vote on Vivax. | ||
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Can hapahauli be wrong? x) | ||
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Sho wrote: How was it bullshit? Our reads were correct no matter what. You and Tictock were mafia, Zey was never going to vote against you, it's simple as that. Good for you being correct.  And yep I wasn't going against rayn at least not with reasons "rayn is scum because he is alive" and some made up stuff. If you want me believe someone is scum try to tell good reasons why he is or at least try to discuss about it. There were so many questions that you guys just ignored and that isn't good way to convince anybody.Sorry for being wrong about mafia but I did my best and in my perspective your and Vivaxs behavior was more scummy than Tictocks and rayns. I didn't vote you or Vivax because rayn is my friend, I did it because I thought you were scums. Sorry for being wrong. | ||
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Sho wrote: I mean, even if you thought we were scummy, AT LEAST consider the fact that Rayn could of been mafia. I told you why I thought that rayn is mafia and was asking you many times why my deduction about him is wrong. How that isn't considering? If you would have been able to give me good reason why my deduction was wrong of course I would have thought rayns role again. | ||
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ShoCkeyy wrote: Can you post that? I don’t recall you ever thinking Rayn was possibly mafia. Sorry my mistake. I meant to wrote that I told you why I thought rayn was town and I was asking why I was wrong. | ||
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raynpelikoneet wrote: I think she is meaning "isn't" instead of first "is"? Nevertheless she was giving reasons for me to be town and asking you to debunk them which you apparently never did? Well the reasoning was that you are alive (and even I as a scum would have kept you alive), you weren't so active as usually (but you don't move every day so...) and you are pocketing me (and if you believe that reason it would mean that you can never think that somebody is town) so... :D | ||
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raynpelikoneet wrote: We didn't really have any "good" shots. I was actually in favor of not shooting anyone N1 (but TT made a good call on jock being a power role). N2 we only shot jeekaka because maybe it will make you think vivax/shockeyy is actually mafia (without me saying that). I was actually considering shooting you instead (TT wanted to shoot noone), i could have always painted vivax mafia quite reasonably imo. I just thought jeekaka being dead would enforce the case on vivax + shockeyy more than the other way around. Well they helped me (at least vivax did) on D3. Well it's too bad that you didn't shoot me. I was all night just hoping that I would die and I wouldn't need to read english anymore. x) Btw why did you say that you think Vivax is town end of N2? | ||
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