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On June 06 2020 21:21 jeekaka wrote:
Well what happened there was that Trfel was active in the thread, ignored a Tictocks question I had also quoted and when I called it out he was like "what question???" and when I quoted it again he was gone :D So it felt he was really doing his best to avoid answering it.
So according to you when I roll mafia all I've got to do is ask questions and if a townie doesn't answer it because he doesn't see it or thinks it's not his top priority, I got myself a mislynch?
There are reasons for townies to not answer to something immediately.
That's to say, do you really think that not answering things always makes people mafia?
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Though I can see why someone could think he's being avoided and that makes him suspicious I guess.
I just don't think only mafia feels a tad disconnected in this game.
I'm also not of the opinion I can just go and deliver something to rayn if he thinks I should be lynched. I'm just not mafia though and I can see why Trfel plays like he does.
Just having a hard time making a call if I decide not to follow my early nose. Jock's filter didn't look like he was killed for looking somewhere where nobody else did either.
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Do you have anything like tip top town townies in your book?
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On June 06 2020 02:40 Tictock wrote:
Looking forward to seeing what made Vivax BURST OUT LAUGHING about me saying his post is a forced narrative. I mean guy has been calling me mafia literally since the start of the game, finally puts together a case-post about it, and it's literally all easily fact-checkable to be false. So I'm gunna calls it as I sees it.
@Zey, I wasn't super clear (and I forgot a couple things, which is a lesson to not start drinking early and try to play mafia). When I said "from Trfel's filter the cake read kinda makes sense" what I meant is that his cake read didn't just appear or change when he reappeared. There was a sense that he could have been scum-reading her since early on. I very much agree with you that Trfel N1 made a ton of posts that backtrack and retcon what his reads where D1.
Actually on that topic, I love Jeeka's point about Trfel voting with Sho. Trfel ignoring Sho EoD (when he had earlier said Sho looked scummy) is super suspect imo, but I had failed to notice that in voting for cake he was also voting with his scum read Sho >.<
I am gunna make an effort to be around a bit later tonight, but I am frankly going to be pretty useless this weekend due to roomates Bday I mentioned. I'm using the whole thing as an excuse to build a firepit in the backyeard which has been on my project list for awhile now and am going to be baking birthday and party treats most of the day tomorrow.
I laughed because being like WOW THIS IS SUCH A FORCED NARRATIVE was strongly hyperbole in a sense that it has to come from the slimiest, shadiest mafia scum in your head for someone to just make you go "OH WOW HE'S REACHING SO HARD".
But the rest of the post sort of comes across apologetic. Not like you want to murder yours truly for pushing lies on you.
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That said, there's too many townies on the sidelines atm for me to really find out who wants to find the correct lynch.
Rayn too, if town, is giving it 40% maybe. But really it's a pretty chill game so finding the super motivated people might not be the right approach.
At least I got some reaction out of TT? Doesn't seem to be particularly bothered with how I represented his play after all. I'd feel more comfortable if he went out of that post more convinced I was scum, since he doesn't think I have any point at all judging from his first reaction.
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If I use the metric where scum just does nothing but post so-to-say politically correct posts where they don't ruffle any feathers, I'd probably have my eyes on Rayn + zey.
If I stick to my rayn townread I get to TickTock + zey. But TT really ruffles more feathers than zey. Jeekaka tries to be around and contributive without giving me too much of a feeling that it's from the sidelines.
I think between TT and zey, I'd lynch zey first. Looking through the filter I see the argument showing up a lot for Trfel and TT that they're probably scum for going after the easy target Shockeyy. At the same time she doesn't townread Shockeyy and somehow makes her own read on Shockeyy dependent on how much my read on Shockeyy can be trusted.
Scumreading people for going after presumed lynch bait while not treating the lynch bait as town is kinda..convenient?
So yeah. I think I'd put zey ahead of TT in the lynches if I use complacency as a metric.
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It's not a bad guess. But tbh a lot of townies got to be playing similarly laid back. Makes it hard to find mafia.
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On June 07 2020 07:59 jeekaka wrote:
Fuck me I just still want to lynch Vivax because that town hero thing bothers me now even more.
Although that rayns "I wish I wash scum with Zey" starts to haunt me too.
+ feels Batman
They're two completely different things ?
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Though if rayn is scum yours just now could have been TMI.
Maybe in hindsight.
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Rayn yes should probably be discussed. More or less depending on the NK.
TT I give a chance of being town tbh. But more likely my D1 PoE was gosu
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Rereading the game. Might do it over a few hours.
Interesting bits:
On June 03 2020 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
Zey has made a scummy start imo
On June 03 2020 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:I dont think she has but please do tell.
Jock -> NK
Then Ticktocks posting spree starting here: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/559398-sushi-mafia?page=10#192
This one sticks out imo considering TT doesn't voice any suspicion on zey before.
On June 03 2020 10:50 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Why is Zey removing the time stamps? That seems scummy as hell to try and paint a narrative that can be falsified later in the game
:O Show nested quote +On June 03 2020 05:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You do you Zey, just saying on my end it looks scummy, you don't have to change anything about it, doesn't mean I'm calling you mafia (just yet ;D) The fuck is this? "Zey is Mafia! Psst- Hey Zey, don't worry buddy I had to say it, we cool?"
But he's seeing this Shockeyy stuff from a tinfoil point of view where he has to think zey is mafia.
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TT was saying Shock and zey had a staged conversation without thinking zey was mafia at that point.
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On June 07 2020 22:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2020 22:52 Vivax wrote:
TT was saying Shock and zey had a staged conversation without thinking zey was mafia at that point. maybe youre right there. what's the point on me?
What point on you? You had a pretty strong early D1.
But I have to consider the chance you're scum with zey here. At least keep it in mind.
That said, if you think TT is mafia, who's mafia with him?
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On June 07 2020 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The point that you seem to be interested in that post. Which i cant understand. Like you think for the post like 12 or whatever hours into D1 Jock posts a random comment of Zey that i disagree with, and that makes me afraid of him enough to kill him over the fact that he thinks you and trfel are mafia for basically the rest of the day and night? Is that it or what? Because you sure do have some point for picking that quote. So dont say there is "no point on me"...
I dont who is mafia with TT. And i dont plan on letting people know before the deadline tbh.
Oh you thought it was about you? Interesting. I was more focused on Jock being early to call out zey. Your disagreement was kind of just a thing on top.
Strikes me as a bit defensive with how you just reacted. But really, it wasn't about you, originally.
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That said I think zey should be lynched first, then it's about figuring out between you and TT
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On June 07 2020 23:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like why dont you just point out what jock said about zey if your opinion is that he was on the right track on zey. Why do you need my post for that?
I didn't put that much thought into it. Just quoted them because they were p. much the earliest opinions on zey.
Funny example of selective perception though. I think I'm talking about zey, and you think I'm talking about you.
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I don't think it's something that deserves as much attention as you are giving it over him calling out zey.
Who I think should be the next lynch cause between you and TT it's a tougher choice atm.
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On June 07 2020 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If people dont really understand what i am saying i think Vivax might be planting ideas to people's head here without saying it.
Okay? Find me an idea I tried to 'plant' without supporting the idea.
If I have an exhibit that allows me explanation A and B and I'm trying to explain A but you think I'm explaining B, that's planting ideas in peoples heads? Really contrived narrative there.
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I don't know what to say when you ask me what to think of TT given he's in my scum pile since forever? Yeah sure, I'd lynch him, but somehow I never manage to get zey seriously on the table this game, so I feel more drawn towards that.
Like idk what your goal here is. If you're asking me to have a scumread on TT, that's old stuff. But I don't see how you can't reach zey by PoE here, so it gives me the feeling you're kinda protective of her. Kneejerk reaction after the lynch was for TT to sr zey and for you to go after TT and not take into consideration who your scumread is partnered with.
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