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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 23 2020 00:02 GMT
#6
/in
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 28 2020 19:52 GMT
#57
Hey guys, meta reads here. I will lead town to victory.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 28 2020 19:53 GMT
#58
On April 29 2020 04:50 Vivax wrote:
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On April 29 2020 04:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2020 04:36 Kurumi wrote:
Hi guys, it's been a while. Hope my memory and skills can still be used for some meta shenanigans.
Out of curiosity, how many of the people in this game have you played with before?


He played with me and rayn for sure. Kurumi is a vet, and a sneaky ass mafia player.


like how he sneaked his ass into this game?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 28 2020 19:54 GMT
#60
On April 29 2020 04:53 Vivax wrote:
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On April 29 2020 04:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Meanwhile my family is almost entirely built on Oil money from a Utah well.

Yeeaaaaahhhhhhhh! We are in paydir-S H I T


Are you a mormon?
Hopefully the oil situation resolves itself when activity picks up and more fuel is consumed.


Long $TSLA
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 28 2020 20:30 GMT
#71
On April 29 2020 05:20 Vivax wrote:
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On April 29 2020 05:16 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI!

I'm town


Seems legit.


How?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 28 2020 20:53 GMT
#82
On April 29 2020 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think he has quite a legitimate thought process and probably town based on it.


He's also played quite a few back to back mafia games, so I wouldn't blame him.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 04:55 GMT
#127
I don’t like a couple of slam posts so far. He’s on my scummy list.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 29 2020 15:08 GMT
#155
On April 29 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
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On April 29 2020 13:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don’t like a couple of slam posts so far. He’s on my scummy list.
Care to explain which ones?


On April 29 2020 04:36 Alakaslam wrote:
But well what of it, dead game is dead game will come back when she wakes up


His post here about dead game being a dead game, then his follow up post here to you Trfel.

On April 29 2020 09:45 Alakaslam wrote:
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On April 29 2020 04:47 Trfel wrote:
Alakaslam, I assume by cop-outs you mean excuses?

And if so, what (if anything) do you make of them?

Meh, NAI but also unnecessary. Just kinda bad. I cant always be here, I don’t have to go on and on about my daily teaching schedule or coronavirus actually making me busier and whatnot. I just show up when I can. Because I’m town, and therefore dont give a shit what people think.


Typically as town I act like I don't care, but I do care. As a mafia member, I actually wouldn't care about what town thinks since the end game is winning and killing town.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 15:16 GMT
#157
On April 30 2020 00:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Kurumi if you think this is spammy you would have hated it a couple years ago...

Shit more like 5 years ago


Yea, I went from 40 players with about 20 page games to 10 players with 200+ pages, now its 10 with 70 pages, so not that bad anymore.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 15:18 GMT
#158
So far I have Slam, Koshi, and Kurumi on my possibly mafia list.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 15:30 GMT
#163
On April 29 2020 16:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 29 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Hey guys, meta reads here. I will lead town to victory.

Hey Shockeyy can you open up this post for a bit more?


Just watch the thread, you'll see. But in all seriousness, I was just referring to the amount of time I can put into the game. If this would of started last week, forget about it, I was dealing with a lot of company issues... This week, I'm free as a bird, so I'll just be putting a lot of effort into winning the game; especially how I lost my last game
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 15:32 GMT
#164
On April 30 2020 00:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On April 30 2020 00:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So far I have Slam, Koshi, and Kurumi on my possibly mafia list.

Why koshi?


That entrance is sounds totally like Koshi mafia entrance.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 15:47 GMT
#166
Fuck it, let's turn the heat up a bit.

##vote: Koshi
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 16:45 GMT
#193
Where's the vote thread btw? :O
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 29 2020 22:42 GMT
#284
On April 30 2020 07:37 Vivax wrote:
Granted I worded it like shit and could have probably packed it into a single sentence like I did now. And to me it doesn't matter anymore. I'm feeling goodish about rayn as long as he keeps poking.

Shockeyy still need you to explain why Koshi's entrance was scummy.


I gotta answer a few others but a quick gist is that he used the same entrance from what I recall when I played Mafia along side him.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 02:16 GMT
#321
I only voted Koshi to put more pressure on him after that opening, especially if it was going to be two votes already. I thought it would of been obvious. I already explained my reasoning why I thought it was a Koshi mafia opening.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 02:45 GMT
#327
On April 30 2020 11:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
I got about halfway through actually reading the thread, have a big post made up of my thoughts and then..

Then I got to a post that I made that said the exact opposite of what I have written here....


what is going on here


maybe youre mafia?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 03:56 GMT
#336
##unvote
##vote Alakaslam
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 04:09 GMT
#339
On April 30 2020 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:
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On April 30 2020 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are you voting for Shockeyy Slam?

He seems to be coasting on an easy LHF. I don’t believe the reasons he has raised for scumreading me, and he is one of very few who goes that far (not that I have shined a holy light of townieness, in other words).

In that context it just looks scummy to me.


You haven't posted any reasons to vote me, you just went from

On April 30 2020 04:57 Alakaslam wrote:
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On April 30 2020 04:51 Vivax wrote:
On April 30 2020 04:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:58 Kurumi wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
-snip-
Holy wall of text Batman.

You also seem overdefensive in this post (for someone who doesn't have any votes on them.)

Trfel says one thing and then does the opposite. Which is, by definition, lying. You might have a good guess how I feel about liars. Rayn goes on saying that I'm illogically pushing Trfel for this, as if nothing Trfel would've done would change my attitude towards them. So here's what I can give on this front: if Trfel were truthful to their game-opening declaration, they'd be suspicious to me. BUT they would not be read as scum to me simply because of lack of information. Given how all this turned out, I believe Trfel to be scum.


Are you sure trfel was lying and didn't just get into the game more than he expected to?


Wall of text? You people don't do big list posts or case posts anymore?
As for the overdefensive comment, I'll take that as a good joke.

Why do they think they have to get into the game more when all that's happened is I pinged them out? Overdefensive much, huh?



On April 30 2020 00:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 30 2020 00:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Kurumi if you think this is spammy you would have hated it a couple years ago...

Shit more like 5 years ago


Yea, I went from 40 players with about 20 page games to 10 players with 200+ pages, now its 10 with 70 pages, so not that bad anymore.


I do know. I've been part of this forum for 9 years now and did my fair share of spamming.

On April 29 2020 23:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
alakaslam:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2020 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Gonna have to side with Kurumi on the logic train. Defend yourself, not others, even when scum. Because it be scummy until the town begins wearing trousers on their head. Then defense the ally.

On April 29 2020 15:17 Alakaslam wrote:
Stuff getting really strangely simple. Like straight up people make excuse = they is scum.

If Vivax is right.

But it is funny, Trfel being more active than anyone else post excuse has me feeling townie on him even though it literally points scummier than before. Like, my head and my gut disagree


I find these posts pretty scummy, like you want to agree with Kurumi but then want to back out for some reason.

You seem so sure in one post and unsure in the next. Kurumi's logic train very much had to do with his suspicions on trfel and you seemed sure about it but then next thing you're like "yeah but maybe not." and that's it.

Also, Kurumi's logic, I pointed out above why its bad logic. On the one hand, he says that all trfel has done is ask questions, but trfel's questions brought more information into the thread, which Kurumi says is 'never bad'. I don't think Kurumi is using consistent scumhunting logic here in going after trfel.



Trfel's questions were useless or bad. One they asked Alakaslam made absolutely no sense given that Trfel was one giving a cop-out. The way they questioned me about my opening post was not to make me introduce me into the game, but to learn how committed I am to the game. Why do they need to know how committed I am to the game? Well, it makes deciding how the N1 KP goes.


I don't know whether to disagree with you or scumread you.

I can't see how you've had such a reaction to rayn and trfel questioning how you started the game. You seem genuinely pissed off and i don't get why. Trfel's post is one that you see in about 70% of game openings and sometimes its a town post; sometimes its a mafia post, but you really can't tell from whether someone follows up on day 1 by being exactly as active as they said they would.

I also really don't buy this theory that rayn and trfel are mafia coming after you for pinging trfel. Mafia are probably trying to hide or just watch right now. Maybe one of them is, but both, like this on day one? Nah

-snip-


Then that's bad practice you allow it. It sets up a potential deflection with "well, gee I told you guys I'm not going to do much..." which only creates confusion in the discussion. Look at what's happened: I call out Trfel ever so slightly and rayn comes swinging at me for no reason, so deep to even implicate himself, but never pushing himself to vote, mostly attacking me instead of defending Trfel. Basically, discrediting me instead of committing to defending Trfel.
As for you comment to what Mafia is currently doing... why? You just voted Koshi, who's posted NOTHING besides promise of contributing for "pressure". He's pressured himself already a lot more than your vote did. And Shockeyy's. You're abandoning what's already developed in the thread to deflect onto one of the lurkers.
And what the fuck is this "Maybe one of them is, but both, like this on day one? Nah". WHY? So you scumread one of them? What is this sentence even?

Very town looking of Kurumi here. But I love giving policy advice as mafia too, hmmm.....


The effort of making a huge summary this early was quite townie, just seems exactly that: Too early.

Btw he reminded me that Grack is in this game.
Hey Grack, care to post?

Sure but there is always wifom; he could know that and pull early legwork so he can coast a bit if he needs to.

Or to solidify town credibility and lead mislynches. I do think he is town largely because I agree with him, but I agree with scum a lot so idk.

Meanwhile my gut loves to OMGUS on ShoCkeyy. It’s actually quite the motivator but I don’t like the idea of OMGUSing.


to

On April 30 2020 05:23 Alakaslam wrote:
On reflection while I ate lunch.

##Vote: ShoCkeyy

Don’t want to lynch the more active player between the two.


in like 15 mins... doubt you reflected much.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 15:59 GMT
#462
Caught up to the thread, Vivax I never said I stopped scum reading Koshi, I just wanted to vote slam even more for that ridiculous vote on me.

And in all seriousness, Jock and Shock couldn’t possibly roll mafia together again. The chances of that are stupidly low.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 16:19 GMT
#467
On May 01 2020 01:04 Vivax wrote:
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On May 01 2020 00:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Caught up to the thread, Vivax I never said I stopped scum reading Koshi, I just wanted to vote slam even more for that ridiculous vote on me.

And in all seriousness, Jock and Shock couldn’t possibly roll mafia together again. The chances of that are stupidly low.


If you're caught up, why aren't you voting GB?


Isn’t he sick? Like I’m playing other games with GB and he just hadn’t been as active. I don’t want to vote GB with GB being a town. He’s not in my scum list to put it in simpler terms.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 16:36 GMT
#473
On May 01 2020 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 01 2020 01:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 01:04 Vivax wrote:
On May 01 2020 00:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Caught up to the thread, Vivax I never said I stopped scum reading Koshi, I just wanted to vote slam even more for that ridiculous vote on me.

And in all seriousness, Jock and Shock couldn’t possibly roll mafia together again. The chances of that are stupidly low.


If you're caught up, why aren't you voting GB?


Isn’t he sick? Like I’m playing other games with GB and he just hadn’t been as active. I don’t want to vote GB with GB being a town. He’s not in my scum list to put it in simpler terms.

That's a terrible excuse for not voting for someone.


Why? What’s your excuse for not thinking Slam is mafia or koshi or vivax? Because you think they’re not mafia? Sounds like the same excuse to me.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 16:38 GMT
#474
On May 01 2020 00:40 Vivax wrote:
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On May 01 2020 00:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 01 2020 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is saying stuff that makes sense unlike some other people.


You're mafia

##Unvote
##Vote: raynpelikoneet




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On May 01 2020 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 01 2020 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Jock is mafia and Slam probably town just because there is no room for him to be mafia.


Okay, consider I am town here. Who's the team? Would you move with me to kill Jock?


🤔


Talking about this Vivax?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 16:39 GMT
#476
I still think Koshi is more mafia than GB.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 16:40 GMT
#478
On May 01 2020 01:39 Vivax wrote:
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On May 01 2020 01:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 00:40 Vivax wrote:
On May 01 2020 00:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 01 2020 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is saying stuff that makes sense unlike some other people.


You're mafia

##Unvote
##Vote: raynpelikoneet




On May 01 2020 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 01 2020 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Jock is mafia and Slam probably town just because there is no room for him to be mafia.


Okay, consider I am town here. Who's the team? Would you move with me to kill Jock?


🤔


Talking about this Vivax?


That's one.
The other is the conversation between the two of us and Koshi, where GB instead of just keep engaging with us about what we were talking about went and made a lazy ass reads post.


I recall some one asking for the reads post though.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 17:57 GMT
#525
Terrible decisions are about to be made.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 17:58 GMT
#526
On April 30 2020 16:16 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote Koshi

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:01 GMT
#528
Rayn, please just re-read the thread and the interactions between GB and Koshi. I feel like most people here don't read and just base decisions on others decisions. I'm putting pressure on Slam, because I personally think that Koshi and Slam are partners. Could Jock be in there? sure? But what GB is saying about Koshi relieving pressure on Jock is true. I personally hope that Jock didn't roll mafia again, but that Koshi play right there can be two things. True mafia work, or town work. Slam voting me, 15 mins after not wanting to vote for me screams setup play between the two for D2.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:01 GMT
#529
On May 01 2020 02:59 Trfel wrote:
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On May 01 2020 02:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Terrible decisions are about to be made.
Care to explain why they are terrible?


Cause I'm town that's why.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:09 GMT
#538
GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax
ShoCkeyy: (3) Alakaslam, Trfel, Raynpelikoneet

There's an obvious two mafia here. The third one can also be here, or just not voting, on some one else. But I definitely suspect two mafia here. Sorry Rayn, but I can't trust you on this. Given how probability works, and I know I'm not mafia; there's a very good and strong chance mafia is lined up here to lynch some one.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:11 GMT
#541
GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax
ShoCkeyy: (3) Alakaslam, Trfel, Raynpelikoneet

Also given that both Koshi and Slam are leading the wagons makes me even sicker. Also why would Slam "claim" blue before a night phase.... even if it is jokingly around.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:12 GMT
#546
On May 01 2020 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 01 2020 03:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax
ShoCkeyy: (3) Alakaslam, Trfel, Raynpelikoneet

Also given that both Koshi and Slam are leading the wagons makes me even sicker. Also why would Slam "claim" blue before a night phase.... even if it is jokingly around.

i also claimed like three times.


I know you did, but who does it right before a vote? especially before N1... Lol...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:13 GMT
#549
On May 01 2020 03:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Maybe we lead the wagons because top town


yea only in a few other peoples eyes.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:16 GMT
#557
If I assume rayn and trfel are town, which I already do think they're town, the list I'm left with out of those voting on myself and GB as:

Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax, Alakaslam
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:16 GMT
#558
On May 01 2020 03:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Day 1 - 1-HOUR-TILL-DEADLINE COUNT

Previous Votecount: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/558949-oil-futures-mafia?page=20#382


Votes:

GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax
ShoCkeyy: (3) Alakaslam, Trfel, Raynpelikoneet
Alakaslam: (2) ShocCkeyy, Grackaroni
Jockmcplop: (1) GlowingBear
Trfel: (1) Kurumi
Koshi: (1) Chezinu
Kurumi: (0)
Raynpelikoneet: (0)
FecalFeast: (0)
Vivax: (0)
Chezinu: (0)
Grackaroni: (0)


Not Voting:
Jockmcplop


GlowingBear is set to be lynched with 3 votes.

until End of Day


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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:16 GMT
#559
here you go FF
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:22 GMT
#568
On May 01 2020 03:18 Alakaslam wrote:
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On May 01 2020 03:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If I assume rayn and trfel are town, which I already do think they're town, the list I'm left with out of those voting on myself and GB as:

Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax, Alakaslam

I dont know why you think rayn is town when he gaslights you like that

“Trust me even if I am mafia”

“Ooh, I like that you so townie m8”

Lol wtf


When did he gas light me? I literally wrote I don't trust his judgement in this case.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:23 GMT
#571
On May 01 2020 03:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oooh i can feel the power of my vote rn...

I don't have time for the 8 pages or so that i missed though.

Are there any cases i can read?


Vote Slam or Koshi which ever of the two in my opinion. If you want to see why, read the past two pages at least.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:30 GMT
#582
On May 01 2020 03:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Slam acting serious makes me think he's town rn when normally I'd think it was scummy. That's weird.

Has gb done anything lately why do you want me to switch shockkeyy


On May 01 2020 03:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax
ShoCkeyy: (3) Alakaslam, Trfel, Raynpelikoneet

There's an obvious two mafia here. The third one can also be here, or just not voting, on some one else. But I definitely suspect two mafia here. Sorry Rayn, but I can't trust you on this. Given how probability works, and I know I'm not mafia; there's a very good and strong chance mafia is lined up here to lynch some one.

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:30 GMT
#584
On May 01 2020 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Shockey how do you feel about this game?


You should know.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:31 GMT
#585
On May 01 2020 03:29 Alakaslam wrote:
And i have more time now FF thanks though! We can flesh out GB more. My vote is available to the highest bidder.


You don't think this sounds even scummier?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:41 GMT
#625
On May 01 2020 03:32 Koshi wrote:
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On May 01 2020 03:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Shockey how do you feel about this game?


You should know.

No. I mean emotiinally wise. Fun game? Interesting game? Jist tell me with many worddms


I find every mafia game I play to be fun no matter what. Sometimes I get too involved where work suffers. lol
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:42 GMT
#630
Why GB though? It's obvious mafia is on GB already.
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ShoCkeyy
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April 30 2020 18:43 GMT
#634
On May 01 2020 03:42 Koshi wrote:
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On May 01 2020 03:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Shockey how do you feel about this game?


You should know.

No. I mean emotiinally wise. Fun game? Interesting game? Jist tell me with many worddms


I find every mafia game I play to be fun no matter what. Sometimes I get too involved where work suffers. lol

Ok. I feel you are not connected at all in this game. Maybe I am wrong.


I'm more connected than you. I was literally here from the beginning. I'm pretty vested in this.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 18:43 GMT
#637
On May 01 2020 03:42 Koshi wrote:
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On May 01 2020 03:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Shockey how do you feel about this game?


You should know.

No. I mean emotiinally wise. Fun game? Interesting game? Jist tell me with many worddms


I find every mafia game I play to be fun no matter what. Sometimes I get too involved where work suffers. lol

Ok. I feel you are not connected at all in this game. Maybe I am wrong.


You literally only started posted after I voted you along with Jock.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 18:47 GMT
#649
On May 01 2020 03:46 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel slam and fefe look very townie here.
Vivax through game.

rayn I will be very upset with if kurumi flips town.

But that is a fine d1.


"sure" Kurumi is most likely town after that last post
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 18:52 GMT
#667
On May 01 2020 03:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can we kill shockey for not explaining wtf he means by scum has to be on gb


Dude I explained it already as to why. Lol.. Why do you want to kill me for not wanting to read?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 18:54 GMT
#675
On May 01 2020 03:52 Alakaslam wrote:
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On May 01 2020 03:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can we kill shockey for not explaining wtf he means by scum has to be on gb

Yes

##Unvote
##Vote: ShoCkeyy


You're not making yourself look any better.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 19:24 GMT
#700
Wack.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 30 2020 19:29 GMT
#705
GB reads now.
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ShoCkeyy
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April 30 2020 20:11 GMT
#712
On May 01 2020 04:44 Trfel wrote:
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On May 01 2020 04:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB reads now.
ShoCkeyy, why do you say this?


I like to know the top lynch thoughts the night of, it's good stuff.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 20:19 GMT
#713
You went from this

On May 01 2020 03:59 Alakaslam wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear


to this

On May 01 2020 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
I now have GB as top town.


in a span of an hour, why the sudden change of heart?

Judging from your interactions with GB you completely thought of him as town before the above post. You never really interacted with GB, you just called him homboy in a couple of posts immediately then talked about GB with other people when GB stopped posting.

Then all the sudden asked for reasons why you should vote for GB.

Idk but your interaction timeline just seems off about when it comes to GB, especially your voting pattern.
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ShoCkeyy
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April 30 2020 20:28 GMT
#715
On May 01 2020 05:25 Alakaslam wrote:
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On May 01 2020 05:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You went from this

On May 01 2020 03:59 Alakaslam wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear


to this

On May 01 2020 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
I now have GB as top town.


in a span of an hour, why the sudden change of heart?

Judging from your interactions with GB you completely thought of him as town before the above post. You never really interacted with GB, you just called him homboy in a couple of posts immediately then talked about GB with other people when GB stopped posting.

Then all the sudden asked for reasons why you should vote for GB.

Idk but your interaction timeline just seems off about when it comes to GB, especially your voting pattern.

“Slam you shit at scum, cant you see? How can you be this stupid slam?”

Trash your vote then, you all ready know I dont give a cuss what you think of my alignment or anyone else for that matter, if I get lynched I get lynched. Go back to being productive and stop insulting my scum play.


I'm gunning for you England.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 20:34 GMT
#716
On May 01 2020 05:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 05:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You went from this

On May 01 2020 03:59 Alakaslam wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear


to this

On May 01 2020 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
I now have GB as top town.


in a span of an hour, why the sudden change of heart?

Judging from your interactions with GB you completely thought of him as town before the above post. You never really interacted with GB, you just called him homboy in a couple of posts immediately then talked about GB with other people when GB stopped posting.

Then all the sudden asked for reasons why you should vote for GB.

Idk but your interaction timeline just seems off about when it comes to GB, especially your voting pattern.

“Slam you shit at scum, cant you see? How can you be this stupid slam?”

Trash your vote then, you all ready know I dont give a cuss what you think of my alignment or anyone else for that matter, if I get lynched I get lynched. Go back to being productive and stop insulting my scum play.


Also don't stress my tunneling, I've done it to GB, Rayn, FF, etc... in previous games, it's just my town meta.
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ShoCkeyy
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April 30 2020 21:15 GMT
#720
On May 01 2020 06:02 Vivax wrote:
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On May 01 2020 02:50 Trfel wrote:
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy


Underwhelming filter. I like Vivax's (?) point about ShoCkeyy saying he voted Koshi only for a pressure vote, but also saying that Koshi's opening was a mafia opening. He's yet to give any other reasons to suspect Koshi. And more importantly, he's just saying recently "I like GlowingBear more than Koshi" while voting for Alakaslam, while GlowingBear is leading the lynch and Koshi or Alakaslam aren't really in contention.

Not sold on it but maybe it'll work?


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On May 01 2020 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay
##unvote
##vote ShoCkeyy


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On May 01 2020 02:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Terrible decisions are about to be made.


Still catching up but jesus, that unlurk.
This guy is literally not doing anything until he sees his name pop up somewhere.


I mean, thats what it could be made to look like, but when I originally posted, I did in the morning when I woke up, those follow up posts were from when I finally sat down in front of my desktop. So I actually got back online at that time, and I've been active, and at least more active than you have.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 21:26 GMT
#722
I mean, you're asking how I did it, the answer is in your post, I never stopped scum reading Koshi? What makes that super scummy? seems like very straight forward game play to me. I don't know what kind of result you're looking for here. I mean you were in my top four list of being possible scum.

I didn't want to label you as scum, but you seem really protective of Koshi.
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ShoCkeyy
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April 30 2020 21:44 GMT
#728
On May 01 2020 06:31 Vivax wrote:
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On May 01 2020 06:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I mean, you're asking how I did it, the answer is in your post, I never stopped scum reading Koshi? What makes that super scummy? seems like very straight forward game play to me. I don't know what kind of result you're looking for here. I mean you were in my top four list of being possible scum.

I didn't want to label you as scum, but you seem really protective of Koshi.


I still don't understand how his entrance made him mafia in your eyes and nobody else does either, I think. That's because you dodged the question by saying it was a vote of pressure.

Rayn you will have to explain to me why you didn't keep your vote on GB.



It's association based on previous mafia play. He entered the exact same way, and then afked the rest of the game. This time, when I voted for him he's been active.
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ShoCkeyy
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7815 Posts
April 30 2020 21:45 GMT
#729
On May 01 2020 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 03:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax
ShoCkeyy: (3) Alakaslam, Trfel, Raynpelikoneet

There's an obvious two mafia here. The third one can also be here, or just not voting, on some one else. But I definitely suspect two mafia here. Sorry Rayn, but I can't trust you on this. Given how probability works, and I know I'm not mafia; there's a very good and strong chance mafia is lined up here to lynch some one.


Shockkeyy here's where i was having issues with your logic

You open the post saying theres obvious mafia in the votes on gb and yourself. The next like says you suspect two mafia. Then the last line says there's a very good chance of mafia in there.

To me, maybe this is pedantic, when you say obvious it would mean something more than a suspicion or a good chance so I felt as though I was missing something and wanted further explanation.

If the entirety of your point was 'this would be a good situation for mafia to take advantage of' then not only did I misunderstand what you meant by obvious but I also think it's a really roundabout way of saying nothing at all


I maybe a roundabout way for you, but you try and make me repost everything I've already written in the thread for you to read. That's pretty roundabout to me.
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ShoCkeyy
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7815 Posts
April 30 2020 21:59 GMT
#732
On May 01 2020 06:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 06:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 06:31 Vivax wrote:
On May 01 2020 06:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I mean, you're asking how I did it, the answer is in your post, I never stopped scum reading Koshi? What makes that super scummy? seems like very straight forward game play to me. I don't know what kind of result you're looking for here. I mean you were in my top four list of being possible scum.

I didn't want to label you as scum, but you seem really protective of Koshi.


I still don't understand how his entrance made him mafia in your eyes and nobody else does either, I think. That's because you dodged the question by saying it was a vote of pressure.

Rayn you will have to explain to me why you didn't keep your vote on GB.



It's association based on previous mafia play. He entered the exact same way, and then afked the rest of the game. This time, when I voted for him he's been active.


Ok, what about the rest of his posts?

It looks like you've decided to scumread Koshi at the beginning of the game and never backed down when he posted something new, which just looks like you're lazy mafia.

As town you should take new posts into account when reading someone, no?


And I did which is why I removed my vote for Koshi and voted Slam.
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ShoCkeyy
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April 30 2020 21:59 GMT
#733
On May 01 2020 06:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2020 06:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 01 2020 06:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
On May 01 2020 03:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax
ShoCkeyy: (3) Alakaslam, Trfel, Raynpelikoneet

There's an obvious two mafia here. The third one can also be here, or just not voting, on some one else. But I definitely suspect two mafia here. Sorry Rayn, but I can't trust you on this. Given how probability works, and I know I'm not mafia; there's a very good and strong chance mafia is lined up here to lynch some one.


Shockkeyy here's where i was having issues with your logic

You open the post saying theres obvious mafia in the votes on gb and yourself. The next like says you suspect two mafia. Then the last line says there's a very good chance of mafia in there.

To me, maybe this is pedantic, when you say obvious it would mean something more than a suspicion or a good chance so I felt as though I was missing something and wanted further explanation.

If the entirety of your point was 'this would be a good situation for mafia to take advantage of' then not only did I misunderstand what you meant by obvious but I also think it's a really roundabout way of saying nothing at all


I maybe a roundabout way for you, but you try and make me repost everything I've already written in the thread for you to read. That's pretty roundabout to me.

Touche but also you still haven't answered me lmao am I correct that it's just saying the situation was exploitable? If so you used this to start naming people scum..
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On May 01 2020 03:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If I assume rayn and trfel are town, which I already do think they're town, the list I'm left with out of those voting on myself and GB as:

Koshi, FecalFeast, Vivax, Alakaslam

You're basing this entirely on your assumption that a good situation for mafia necessarily must contain mafia as if town never fights tooth and nail over two town wagons while scum afks or sits back to watch.

I know this is all too little too late but I was literally driving a company vehicle parking at gas stations to post and read so I couldn't get into it.



It was a perfect situation for mafia. And I know, I read it when you posted the first time ")
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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April 30 2020 22:44 GMT
#742
On May 01 2020 07:40 Koshi wrote:
Maybe GB is town. Mafia is too happy.
Guess we need to keep him for a couple days now.

Shoot Chezinu pls. Having to lynch him drains the fun out of an entire day.


Are you suggesting this because he voted for you?
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ShoCkeyy
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7815 Posts
May 01 2020 04:14 GMT
#794
GB what are your thoughts on me?
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ShoCkeyy
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May 01 2020 16:03 GMT
#864
On May 02 2020 01:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey so @ Jock

If you read ShoCkeyy’s filter you will see him making little remarks as if he is trying to convince me I am scum like twice a day.

I will do exactly whatever the fuck I will do and I’m not changing to make ShoCkeyy think I am town.


Why not?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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May 01 2020 19:12 GMT
#878
On April 30 2020 04:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
##vote glowingbear

Let's do this

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 01 2020 20:59 GMT
#881
There's only two possible scenarios with the information above, either they're trying to frame GB or GB is mafia.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 02 2020 17:01 GMT
#943
Fefe and I had great conversations, for Fefe to die, and them try to pin me as mafia isn't going to go so well when Koshi actually reads Fefe's filter and notices he hardly scum read me at all.

FecalFeast and I had our run ins, but I always answered him, and he answered me. When I posted my scum list, he was one of them, so of course naturally we talked it out.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 02 2020 17:20 GMT
#944
Hmm my statement above isn't 100% true due to FecalFeast scum reading me before our conversations but after he seemed to lighten up on me.

On May 01 2020 05:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
My totally not blue role is targeting slam


So I know Fecalfeast jokingly claimed, but so has Rayn and Slam. Have either of them reported on anything?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 02 2020 17:45 GMT
#947
Of course, I personally think that scum is easily in Koshi/Slam. Even if they're both not mafia, one of them is 100%.
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ShoCkeyy
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May 02 2020 17:45 GMT
#948
On May 03 2020 02:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2020 02:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Fefe and I had great conversations, for Fefe to die, and them try to pin me as mafia isn't going to go so well when Koshi actually reads Fefe's filter and notices he hardly scum read me at all.

FecalFeast and I had our run ins, but I always answered him, and he answered me. When I posted my scum list, he was one of them, so of course naturally we talked it out.


You sound a bit like Trump.
That'd be enough to lynch you already but the current activity levels are boring me to death.
I'll come back to this post when it doesn't feel like I'm talking to myself in the thread.


Re reading that and I want to die now lmao. Oh god.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 01:05 GMT
#958
The fact that Koshi votes for me and not rayn shows that he's just trying to go with the easiest lynch targets. He did it to GB, and was upset Kurami got booted instead. Koshi was trying to push Rayn earlier and instead hard switched me even though rayn has been his biggest scum read.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 01:05 GMT
#959
##vote Koshi
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ShoCkeyy
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7815 Posts
May 03 2020 01:14 GMT
#961
Vivax, if rayn wasn't town, then why would he vote for Kurumi even though he was confirmed town with his posts and was most likely going to get modkilled or replaced? Like the way I see it is if rayn was mafia, he would of voted GB out instead because GB would definitely been his biggest opponent, and his biggest problem until N1 kill or something.

GlowingBear: (3) Koshi, Vivax, Alakaslam

If you're town, which I hope you are based on your game play, then that means Kosh or Slam have to be mafia. Trfel seems to be sheeping Rayn or just willing to vote Kurumi based on the same information Rayn had, and he at least is also trying to play the game as well.

Rayn seems to only not be playing recently because people are scum reading him. He did the same thing last game I played where Hap was really pushing he was mafia.

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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May 03 2020 01:15 GMT
#962
Koshi or Slam were more than willing to vote GB out because he's definitely the biggest pain outside of you Vivax.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 05:40 GMT
#974
GB what are you smoking, I was saying that FF talked about you quite a bit, and with that early vote on you can make it look like one or the other.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 05:40 GMT
#975
On May 03 2020 14:09 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 03 2020 14:07 Trfel wrote:
On May 03 2020 14:04 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 03 2020 14:01 Trfel wrote:
Well, I'll likely be around for a bit if anyone wants to talk. GlowingBear, especially you.

@GlowingBear, why doesn't ShoCkeyy's post makes sense? I can understand where he is coming from, at least, even if I don't necessarily agree.


Why would FF's death in any way incriminate me? His post sounded like he was trying to put suspicions on me without actually comitting to have me lynched.
I'll leave that for ShoCkeyy to answer, I guesssssssss I can kinda see where you're coming from, even if I can see ShoCkeyy's perspective more easily.

Interested to hear your thoughts when you are finished catching up.


I finished catching up and there's nothing much to talk about.
Why is Koshi voting Shockey now?


I asked that earlier. I
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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May 03 2020 05:41 GMT
#976
I didn’t do some conspiracy and just throw it out. I voted with my scum read, how is that throwing it out?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 05:43 GMT
#977
GB im literally trying to say your town and then you just decide I’m mafia? Like in what mind set does that make sense as a town? I thought town is supposed to team up?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 05:47 GMT
#979
On May 03 2020 14:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2020 14:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB what are you smoking, I was saying that FF talked about you quite a bit, and with that early vote on you can make it look like one or the other.


How in any way FF's death tells anything about my alignment? A lot of people talked about me.

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On May 03 2020 14:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I didn’t do some conspiracy and just throw it out. I voted with my scum read, how is that throwing it out?


Do you think I was framed?


No obviously not, that’s why Koshi is going on the second “easiest” lynch this D2. You were first, and he started the wagon. Now D2 he starts the Shockeyy wagon and fucks off again.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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May 03 2020 06:03 GMT
#982
They tried to frame you.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 15:41 GMT
#1115
Koshi is fucking freaking out cause I caught him. If you kill me you’re killing a town, and giving the mafia the win. Easy and simple as that. That’s why Koshi is pushing so hard to kill me now all the sudden.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 16:44 GMT
#1122
On May 04 2020 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 03 2020 15:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
They tried to frame you.


Ok, so you believe I'm town and that they tried to frame me. Why would killing FF would implicate I'm mafia? I just need you to answer this. In a very good, good, good good good explanation.


He voted for you and was scum reading you in the beginning of the game. If some one read his posts, then they’d notice that FF was taken out N1 cause mafia was upset FF didn’t help take you out first and instead took Kurumi out, lines up with how upset Koshi got when Kurumi died instead of you GB.

Literally Koshi was the first person to vote for you, then FF, then towards the end of the day he switched Kurumi and died N1. If anything FF death was a mixture of things but I mainly think it was to frame us, and cause mafia was mad they didn’t get their GB kill cause of FF.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:00 GMT
#1125
On May 04 2020 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2020 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 04 2020 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 03 2020 15:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
They tried to frame you.


Ok, so you believe I'm town and that they tried to frame me. Why would killing FF would implicate I'm mafia? I just need you to answer this. In a very good, good, good good good explanation.


He voted for you and was scum reading you in the beginning of the game. If some one read his posts, then they’d notice that FF was taken out N1 cause mafia was upset FF didn’t help take you out first and instead took Kurumi out, lines up with how upset Koshi got when Kurumi died instead of you GB.

Literally Koshi was the first person to vote for you, then FF, then towards the end of the day he switched Kurumi and died N1. If anything FF death was a mixture of things but I mainly think it was to frame us, and cause mafia was mad they didn’t get their GB kill cause of FF.


Why would mafia be mad that they didn't mislynch me day1? They got to mislynch one of the most townie people in thread and keeping suspicions on me day2.
Now, why Koshi, as mafia, wouldn't jump on me right on start of day2? WHy would he backtrack? He basically had an excuse to lock on me today, but he didn't.
Do you think Trfel is mafia?


I posted this earlier, but it deals with you being a strong town player, Koshi jumping on any easy trains he can form, and atm Trfel is still null. It seems like he’ll sheep Rayn based on D1 votes and discussions.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:05 GMT
#1127
Bruh Grack why are you reading other games, my style changes every game. Just read this game...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:13 GMT
#1130
Vote for me then I don’t care, you’re just going to let mafia win. I’m done then. GL town.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:15 GMT
#1131
Btw idk if this matters, but I’m a mason. My brother stopped talking to me D1. So I don’t know who it is. Oh well.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:28 GMT
#1137
On May 04 2020 02:23 Vivax wrote:
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On May 04 2020 02:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Btw idk if this matters, but I’m a mason. My brother stopped talking to me D1. So I don’t know who it is. Oh well.


What did the other guy say? Paraphrased ofc.


We both just kept talking about how to build trust. His last post to me made me believe they were town. Then I offered to show myself if a condition was met. I’m hoping they’ll come out and save me to help win as town. I posted I was going to help lead the town to win.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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May 03 2020 17:46 GMT
#1144
I thought it was chez just cause the role playing.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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May 03 2020 17:46 GMT
#1145
Btw I’m going to afk I’m making breakfast.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:24 GMT
#1164
Welp I hope my death isn’t in vain, but y’all seem fucked if you don’t see Koshi or slam as mafia. Looks like Slam is waiting till last few mins to vote anybody off as well.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:27 GMT
#1167
On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 03 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote:
No, I don't want to lynch Koshi. Of the three people currently at two votes I would most want to lynch Jockmcplop I think. I should probably read his filter again.

And ShoCkeyy's too, for that matter. But I don't really want to vote with GlowingBear But maybe I should accept the possibility that I am wrong.

Bleh, confusing game hurts my head


Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey?
I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts).

When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means.


You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey?
Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter.

@Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then.


Alright. Assuming you're town:

I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me.
EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2.
When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia.
But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing?
You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL.
This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work.
I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite.


Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me.
So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL.

It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia.

I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia.
I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then.


He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
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May 03 2020 18:32 GMT
#1169
GB is literally doing what he claimed Koshi was doing about taking his words and turning them into something else. Half the questions GB asked me was answered earlier in the thread. So the story is the same.
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May 03 2020 18:33 GMT
#1173
On May 04 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2020 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey?
I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts).

When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means.


You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey?
Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter.

@Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then.


Alright. Assuming you're town:

I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me.
EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2.
When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia.
But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing?
You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL.
This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work.
I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite.


Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me.
So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL.

It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia.

I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia.
I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then.


He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him.

That's not a bullshit perspective. You said mafia tried to do something and when someone acts just like you said mafia tried to do you don't scumread them.


Wait what? Why would I read GB as mafia if I said he got framed... that makes no sense.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:34 GMT
#1174
On May 04 2020 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FYI Fecalfeast's last scumreads were;
GB (which he even backed off a little bit), Slam, Shockeyy, Grack (who is town) and Chezinu (who is blue).


How do you know chez is blue? I know he claimed about visiting some one right?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:47 GMT
#1178
It does, you just chose to ignore that it makes sense.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:54 GMT
#1191
##unvote
##vote shockeyy


Just end me already.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:34 GMT
#1842
Wait who the fuck was the second mason?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:34 GMT
#1843
Oh Vivax you son of a LOL
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May 07 2020 19:35 GMT
#1844
On May 08 2020 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oh Vivax you son of a LOL


When you started question me about what we talked about, I had some feeling it was you. No wonder you didn't want to talk. I would of figured you out :D
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:42 GMT
#1847
+ Show Spoiler +
##Vivax shoot: Fecalfeast
##Frame Shockeyy
##Roleblock Shockeyy


LMFAO - I really had you guys shaking ;D

I really wish Jock didn't get mafia again... I didn't want to believe it
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:46 GMT
#1848
Sorry Slam and Koshi...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 20:58 GMT
#1859
Yea, I didn't want to go in there blasting my name not knowing who my other mason brother was... I feel like if I would of given my name, it definitely would of given ammo to mafia even more.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 21:03 GMT
#1861
No? But I knew I could have been.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 21:30 GMT
#1870
On May 08 2020 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2020 04:57 iamperfection wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:06 Vivax wrote:
I think we always kill Shockeyy here with the mason claim.

If he lied, it's one scum down.
If he told the truth and chez doesn't confirm the claim before the flip, we lynch chez.

Guaranteed to have one mafia, no?

##Unvote
##Vote Shockeyy

how did this get no attention.

Because shockeyy is dumb?


Yea, it's my fault too. I wanted GB to be town D1 and could have voted him, which could have either forced Vivax to switch off which or stay would been super fucking awkward for mafia.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 21:54 GMT
#1872
My claim was really me hoping it was actually chez, not a mafia vivax, and chez would help. But when Vivax asked me, I knew then it was him and it was possibly a mafia vivax just cause of how quiet he stayed. So yea, my bad.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 22:04 GMT
#1879
On May 08 2020 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I didnt even know masons didnt know each others identity... noone knew (aside from masons apparently lol) and i could easily tell chez is NOT a mason.


I actually dug my own grave on that one too. I talked to Sent about it after and he mentioned he was going to post the mason names, but because we both started anonymously talking to each other he didn't T _ T LOL.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 23:01 GMT
#1888
On May 08 2020 07:52 Chezinu wrote:
I didn't read the thread Day 1. I literally copy & pasted quotes from Powell into the thread. Every word a quote.


Why didn't you save me? Should just claimed mason with me just to see Vivax reaction.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 11 2020 19:08 GMT
#1924
So you're going to FreezingFoot this then?
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