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Vivax, Trfel, Koshi. I mean like i am just going to assume they are town. The next important thing is the votecount and GB's alignment. If GB is town, mafia didn't care about the lynch. If GB is mafia, mafia still didn't care about the lynch. I kind of agree with Vivax that GB not voting for the counter wagon -- while incredibly stupid, most likely makes him town. The only person from the "not taking a stance on lynch" by the eod was Slam who was swapping his votes after Kurumi started posting. I don't think that looks townie and i think Slam is the only person aside from the people who were on Kurumi and GB can actually be mafia. I don't think either of Shockeyy and Grackaroni were reading either of Kurumi/GB mafia. I actually think Shockeyy tried to make people switch to Slam, i think that's minor town points for him. I kind of thought Grack has to be mafia based on him not wanting to do anything about the lynch, especially when his biggest scumread is voting for Kurumi the most obvious decision to make is to try make people vote for either Slam, or join the opposing wagon. However, i have zero understanding of why Grack continued like he did after D1. Basically if Grack is mafia, he built up a scumread on me all game jsut to throw it into the trash for whatever reason come D2??? I don't think that makes any sense at all from mafia perspective. So GB goes to probably town pile and Grack goes to town pile, Shockeyy goes to possibly town pile and Slam is like ????? maybe scum? The thing to note is that i still think there is a possibility of GB being mafia, just because FF suspected him, and while he writes a lot of posts pretty much everything he votes for is "because he didn't post in X amount of time" and i think that's super weak. Wasn't it for the eod i would definitely think GB is mafia and i don't think it's completely out of the possible universes that he is in fact mafia. Hell it's definitely in his range of mafia plays to even be mafia with Jock, or Slam. Anyways the most likely answer based on the above there is, is that: One of GB/Jock is mafia (my preference is Jock) One of Slam/Shockeyy is mafia (prefer Slam) Chezinu is mafia. The problem i have with Slam is his read change with me and Shockeyy. I switched my vote from Jock to GB to Shockeyy to Kurumi. Sure Slam can think that somehow makes me mafia (it shouldn't), but for that he has some weird association that this ALSO makes Shockeyy town. I dont think he should ever have that association based on what i did. I think this is more likely trying to get Shockeyy back off from him, based on that at the point this happened there were two votes on him (aka possibility of him being lynched -- especially if Shockeyy and Grack are town as i assume if Slam is mafia). Furthermore if this was his genuine thought process i don't have a slightest clue why he changes his vote to vote WITH his biggest scumread rayn???? I know he voted GB in the end but at that point it probably didn't matter anymore and he shouldn't have voted for Kurumi in the first place at all if what he said before that was genuine. I know some people are saying Jock is re-evaluating the game after the FF flip but i don't really see it. I honestly first thouhg Jock is town because why would he kill FF, his scumread (unless GB is mafia too -- but right now i don't expect that to be true). Just look at Jock's re-evaluation: - First he says he needs to re-evaluate things because FF his scumread died - He never evaluates GB, which is the first thing he should do - The he says he need to reread Shockeyy because "a lot of alignments depend on Shockeyys" (i dont even understand why he thinks that because he never explains anything about it) - But he doesn't really reread Shockeyy on any level, he just comes back with some random posts and says that Shockeyy is town because ??? and Koshi and Shockeyy are opposing alignments and because of a BAD post Shockeyy made on Koshi that could make him think Shockeyy actually could be mafia but without no investigation on that ever in the game he just ends up on Shockeyy being town again and Koshi being mafia. - Basically he never re-evaluated anything and just ended up with whatever he had before the night kill. That's literally ALL his posts during D2 so basically he hasn't done anything lol... Chezinu kind of always has to be mafia unless the mafia team is exactly Jock, Gb and Slam. But i don't think that's the most likely answer anyways. Noone is willing to even CONSIDER Chezinu as mafia aside from Vivax and Trfel (who are basically town anyways), so yeah.... I don't think not considering Chezinu mafia as mafia, if Chezinu is not, is a good play for mafia because he is probably almost a free lynch. So i think Chezinu has to be mafia. ##vote Chezinu | ||
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On May 03 2020 19:36 Jockmcplop wrote: ok 1: I wasn't on Kurumi or GB 2: I looked at FF's filter and went through his scumreads. Its possible to re-evaluate and end up in a similar place to before. Correct. Except that: 3: I have talked plenty about GB today. That's simply an outright lie. Everything you have said about GB on D2 is this: GB stays where he is (town). I'm really not convinced of trfel's case on him at all. In fact I flat out disagree with it. 4: Alot of alignments do depend on shockeyy. I think one of shockeyy/koshi is mafia mainly because I think koshi is mafia but if he's town shockeyy's push on him from the beginning of the game looks real bad. Also there's been a consistent push against shockeyy for most of the game so that's why figuring out his alignment is important. Who have pushed shockeyy and why are there no posts in your filter in actually trying to figure out what that means? Or if there are please do point me out to them. 5: I tried to re-evaluate the case against shockeyy to see if my townread was missing something and found that there wasn't a case against him at all. Hence I continued to townread him. I suppose you could just ignore that and replace it with ??? to make me look bad but that's kinda silly. But you jsut said there were constant pushes on shockeyy. Were there or weren't there? | ||
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On May 03 2020 19:52 Jockmcplop wrote: This whole post is about GB rayn. I engaged trfel about his GB case because trfel was in the thread and scumreading GB. I'm actually in the middle of talking to trfel about it right now, you don't even have to leave the page to see it. I want trfel to go find the quotes to back up point 1 because it might effect my scumread on GB. Or is this all an 'outright lie' too.. I don't think there is anything you say about GB's alignment there, nor that it looks like you're even trying to re-evaluate something. You say: - You don't know GB so you dont know what he would do - But then you assume what he would do?? - The only part you seem interested in you are not willing to investigate yourself. Why does Trfel have to go and prove something to you, why aren't you interested in looking into it by yourself? You can open GB's fliter and see if what Trfel says makes sense or not. Rayn, ask yourself if you are still just tunnelling me. If you are there's no point in discussing this stuff because you won't change your mind no matter what evidence i put in front you. If you're open to admitting that most of the stuff in your previous post was wrong, then that's fine. I thin you're town and i think you're tunnelled. The stuff you say i haven't posted i have actually posted you are just blind to it because you think i'm scum. This is such a townie rayn trait that there's no way i can do anything but townread you for it. If you're going to keep tunnelling like this i'm going to stop responding because unless you are willing listen to what i'm saying and read my filter with an open mind there's no point in me talking to you. I never "pushed" shockeyy. Trfel hardly pushed shockeyy. The only person who pushed Shockeyy was slam. Other than that, let's say you actually think me and trfel pushed shockeyy. Why does shockeyy being whatever change your opinion on "a lot of players" (that's literally what you said) because you already think both of me and trfel are town? Like if shockeyy is mafia we are more town? How does that change anything? | ||
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##vote jockmcplop | ||
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On May 03 2020 20:26 Chezinu wrote: I tried so hard to get mafia to shoot me last night... I think that I am done roleplaying. Only Grack cared. That is why he is town. wait, why did you want mafia to shoot you if you visited Vivax last night? | ||
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can you just claim if you are claiming or not? | ||
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no | ||
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##vote jockmcplop | ||
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I bbq'd mushrooms yesterday. My son, i am Lucca fucking Ricci: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/RRymHCN.jpg) | ||
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On May 03 2020 21:03 Chezinu wrote: So... are you saying you want to cook Mr. Truffle? No i was telling you who i am. I didn't really make the connection with truffles lol.  I think you should vote with me. I think both of Koshi and the mushrooms are town. | ||
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On May 03 2020 21:06 Koshi wrote: Anyway. I am getting swayed that GB is town and that jock is town as well. well if that's true then you have to be mafia. | ||
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On May 03 2020 21:18 Koshi wrote: No. Shockey. Slam will be tpwn and shockey will cry 5000 rivers about how I am now 100% mafia based on all the science in the world. You mynchî into slam/me when fucking shockey is alive. You are right i am 100% lynching into you / Slam over Shockeyy. | ||
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