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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 16:44 GMT
#1122
On May 04 2020 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2020 15:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
They tried to frame you.


Ok, so you believe I'm town and that they tried to frame me. Why would killing FF would implicate I'm mafia? I just need you to answer this. In a very good, good, good good good explanation.


He voted for you and was scum reading you in the beginning of the game. If some one read his posts, then they’d notice that FF was taken out N1 cause mafia was upset FF didn’t help take you out first and instead took Kurumi out, lines up with how upset Koshi got when Kurumi died instead of you GB.

Literally Koshi was the first person to vote for you, then FF, then towards the end of the day he switched Kurumi and died N1. If anything FF death was a mixture of things but I mainly think it was to frame us, and cause mafia was mad they didn’t get their GB kill cause of FF.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:00 GMT
#1125
On May 04 2020 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2020 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 04 2020 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 03 2020 15:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
They tried to frame you.


Ok, so you believe I'm town and that they tried to frame me. Why would killing FF would implicate I'm mafia? I just need you to answer this. In a very good, good, good good good explanation.


He voted for you and was scum reading you in the beginning of the game. If some one read his posts, then they’d notice that FF was taken out N1 cause mafia was upset FF didn’t help take you out first and instead took Kurumi out, lines up with how upset Koshi got when Kurumi died instead of you GB.

Literally Koshi was the first person to vote for you, then FF, then towards the end of the day he switched Kurumi and died N1. If anything FF death was a mixture of things but I mainly think it was to frame us, and cause mafia was mad they didn’t get their GB kill cause of FF.


Why would mafia be mad that they didn't mislynch me day1? They got to mislynch one of the most townie people in thread and keeping suspicions on me day2.
Now, why Koshi, as mafia, wouldn't jump on me right on start of day2? WHy would he backtrack? He basically had an excuse to lock on me today, but he didn't.
Do you think Trfel is mafia?


I posted this earlier, but it deals with you being a strong town player, Koshi jumping on any easy trains he can form, and atm Trfel is still null. It seems like he’ll sheep Rayn based on D1 votes and discussions.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:05 GMT
#1127
Bruh Grack why are you reading other games, my style changes every game. Just read this game...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:13 GMT
#1130
Vote for me then I don’t care, you’re just going to let mafia win. I’m done then. GL town.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:15 GMT
#1131
Btw idk if this matters, but I’m a mason. My brother stopped talking to me D1. So I don’t know who it is. Oh well.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:28 GMT
#1137
On May 04 2020 02:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2020 02:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Btw idk if this matters, but I’m a mason. My brother stopped talking to me D1. So I don’t know who it is. Oh well.


What did the other guy say? Paraphrased ofc.


We both just kept talking about how to build trust. His last post to me made me believe they were town. Then I offered to show myself if a condition was met. I’m hoping they’ll come out and save me to help win as town. I posted I was going to help lead the town to win.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:46 GMT
#1144
I thought it was chez just cause the role playing.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 17:46 GMT
#1145
Btw I’m going to afk I’m making breakfast.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:24 GMT
#1164
Welp I hope my death isn’t in vain, but y’all seem fucked if you don’t see Koshi or slam as mafia. Looks like Slam is waiting till last few mins to vote anybody off as well.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:27 GMT
#1167
On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 03 2020 23:17 Trfel wrote:
No, I don't want to lynch Koshi. Of the three people currently at two votes I would most want to lynch Jockmcplop I think. I should probably read his filter again.

And ShoCkeyy's too, for that matter. But I don't really want to vote with GlowingBear But maybe I should accept the possibility that I am wrong.

Bleh, confusing game hurts my head


Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey?
I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts).

When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means.


You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey?
Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter.

@Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then.


Alright. Assuming you're town:

I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me.
EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2.
When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia.
But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing?
You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL.
This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work.
I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite.


Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me.
So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL.

It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia.

I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia.
I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then.


He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:32 GMT
#1169
GB is literally doing what he claimed Koshi was doing about taking his words and turning them into something else. Half the questions GB asked me was answered earlier in the thread. So the story is the same.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:33 GMT
#1173
On May 04 2020 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2020 03:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:16 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 03:04 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:53 Trfel wrote:
On May 04 2020 02:42 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Trfel, consider I'm confirmed town. Is there any reason to not vote Shockey?
I don't know I've periodically been falling asleep while reading Jockmcplop's filter and ShoCkeyy's filter and keeping up with the thread (primarily Grackaroni's posts).

When I look at ShoCkeyy's play this game vs his play last game (as mafia), I've actually felt like they are different. This game I see ShoCkeyy coming up with new ideas and sticking with them, and that makes me think he may be town. I didn't read his meta the same way Grackaroni did, I think we are looking at different aspects of ShoCkeyy's play. I don't know what that means.


You're considering meta only. What about my argument on Shockey?
Which one in particular? Sorry, you'll have to point me to what you are referring to. For the record the middle line of that paragraph wasn't meta but it doesn't really matter.

@Koshi, sorry I may very well change my vote. I will probably agonize about it until the deadline. Even though K am busy between now and then.


Alright. Assuming you're town:

I was up to be mislynched day1. Kurumi died. I could very well be the lynch today. All mafia needed to do was to keep throwing suspicions at me.
EoN1. FF is dead. Shockey sees it and throw a bit of suspicions at me by saying I am either mafia or mafia tried to frame me by killing FF. This surely makes people WIFOM about my alignment. In other words, could be mafia tried to guarantee my mislynch day2.
When pressured, Shockey is a bit confused in what to answer. I keep pressuring him and he says that he believes I'm town and that I was framed because FF was killed. But he can't really explain how FF being killed could imply I could be mafia.
But if he really believes in this, he would expect that anyone pushing me today is mafia. Because, if this is not the case, why would the mafia team try to frame me? For nothing?
You suspected me. So you're probably the mafia he is looking for. But when pressured to say you alignment, he said you are NULL.
This shows how faulty this logic is and that Shockey can't find good reasons for what he is been posting. Which means he is probably fabricating posts to fit his agenda. His intention in the beginning of day2 was to try to have a mislynch on me, but it didn't work.
I don't really want to put words in ShoCkeyy's mouth, but it's understandable to me that mafia could use a night kill to try and implicate someone and wait for town to lead that wagon. I've seen it happen before (or even not happen if town didn't go that way). Honestly if mafia tries to use the night kill to implicate someone, I think that's the smart way to do it. You don't risk yourself if town doesn't bite.


Alright, but if he believes mafia tried to implicate me, it has a purpose, right? The purpose is to try to mislynch me.
So, mafia will try to push a lynch on me. And you were the only one who did this today, right? This means Shockey needs to believe you are mafia and you're trying to mislynch me. But he said you were NULL.

It doesn't fit his perspective. Therefore, he is mafia.

I think this is the strongest point for Shockeyy being mafia.
I still don't think it's as likely as Slam being mafia and there is simply no mafia team where Jock doesn't belong to so basically i am just gonna hope you guys are right then.


He’s making up some bullshit perspective just because I town read him.

That's not a bullshit perspective. You said mafia tried to do something and when someone acts just like you said mafia tried to do you don't scumread them.


Wait what? Why would I read GB as mafia if I said he got framed... that makes no sense.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:34 GMT
#1174
On May 04 2020 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FYI Fecalfeast's last scumreads were;
GB (which he even backed off a little bit), Slam, Shockeyy, Grack (who is town) and Chezinu (who is blue).


How do you know chez is blue? I know he claimed about visiting some one right?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:47 GMT
#1178
It does, you just chose to ignore that it makes sense.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 03 2020 18:54 GMT
#1191
##unvote
##vote shockeyy


Just end me already.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:34 GMT
#1842
Wait who the fuck was the second mason?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:34 GMT
#1843
Oh Vivax you son of a LOL
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:35 GMT
#1844
On May 08 2020 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oh Vivax you son of a LOL


When you started question me about what we talked about, I had some feeling it was you. No wonder you didn't want to talk. I would of figured you out :D
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:42 GMT
#1847
+ Show Spoiler +
##Vivax shoot: Fecalfeast
##Frame Shockeyy
##Roleblock Shockeyy


LMFAO - I really had you guys shaking ;D

I really wish Jock didn't get mafia again... I didn't want to believe it
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 07 2020 19:46 GMT
#1848
Sorry Slam and Koshi...
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