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I dont really care because i dont know if he is mafia or town. Except that he is voting for a dude i most likely want to vote. The people i don't want to vote rn are:
Koshi
Vivax
Trfel
FF
Shockeyy
Maybe Slam
Maybe Kurumi
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Why are you voting for Shockeyy Slam?
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Did you really see the light now Trfel? Like that post from Vivax explains everything?
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On April 30 2020 07:11 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 07:06 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 14:44 Vivax wrote:I don't think there's much merit to Kurumi calling Trfel mafia just for the lazy thing. In my opinion, it's not worth reading too much into, but it was also too early to call Trfel town. Rayn for one, is already saying 'Vivax will probably call me mafia for it', which implies he thinks I'm town. I'll skip the part of voting him for that because he'll just say 'good job' like last time that happened. Rayn more or less tried to pull off what I did with Jock two games ago (who was mafia and pushed Trfel aggressively with flimsy reasons), though the circumstances are different. Then he said I should read him mafia for it, which doesn't make much sense considering he should know that I still remember that fact well. And while I agree that Kurumi should know better than harping on Trfel's NAI posts, it's unfair to say he did that on his own after rayn led him to do that. Summing it up: It kind of feels like rayn here is trying to paint Kurumi mafia with the reasons I used on Jock, while trying to make me unable to call him mafia for it because he's emulating what we both did as town in the last games. So yeah rayn, you are right I will call you mafia for it  And Trfel is mafia too, because right after he realized he should be scumreading you, he went and made a scum case on Kurumi in order to not have to. ##Unvote
##Vote rayn Does anyone actually understand what Vivax is trying to say here? I keep reading this and can't understand it  No, I don't remember what reasons were used last game, the logic here feels so convoluted. I don't think that it makes Vivax mafia (I see no mafia motivation), I'm just really confused. I'll be back in an hour or two to catch up on the rest of the thread. In my head, I take full credit for dunking Jock trying to mislynch you in that one game. And the reason I jumped at rayn here is because it felt like he was doing to Kurumi what I did to Jock...And expected me to call him mafia for it, which I didn't find believable. It seems convoluted because it is.
i am not sure if i should play mafia.
I think rayn was doing something to someone, the same thing i did when i was town and it even worked!! But hey let's call rayn scum here because it's so convoluted!!! Because it is. True story guis, rayn is mafia lets murder him with fire.
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On April 30 2020 07:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 30 2020 07:11 Vivax wrote:On April 30 2020 07:06 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 14:44 Vivax wrote:I don't think there's much merit to Kurumi calling Trfel mafia just for the lazy thing. In my opinion, it's not worth reading too much into, but it was also too early to call Trfel town. Rayn for one, is already saying 'Vivax will probably call me mafia for it', which implies he thinks I'm town. I'll skip the part of voting him for that because he'll just say 'good job' like last time that happened. Rayn more or less tried to pull off what I did with Jock two games ago (who was mafia and pushed Trfel aggressively with flimsy reasons), though the circumstances are different. Then he said I should read him mafia for it, which doesn't make much sense considering he should know that I still remember that fact well. And while I agree that Kurumi should know better than harping on Trfel's NAI posts, it's unfair to say he did that on his own after rayn led him to do that. Summing it up: It kind of feels like rayn here is trying to paint Kurumi mafia with the reasons I used on Jock, while trying to make me unable to call him mafia for it because he's emulating what we both did as town in the last games. So yeah rayn, you are right I will call you mafia for it And Trfel is mafia too, because right after he realized he should be scumreading you, he went and made a scum case on Kurumi in order to not have to. ##Unvote
##Vote rayn Does anyone actually understand what Vivax is trying to say here? I keep reading this and can't understand it No, I don't remember what reasons were used last game, the logic here feels so convoluted. I don't think that it makes Vivax mafia (I see no mafia motivation), I'm just really confused. I'll be back in an hour or two to catch up on the rest of the thread. In my head, I take full credit for dunking Jock trying to mislynch you in that one game. And the reason I jumped at rayn here is because it felt like he was doing to Kurumi what I did to Jock...And expected me to call him mafia for it, which I didn't find believable. It seems convoluted because it is. i am not sure if i should play mafia. I think rayn was doing something to someone, the same thing i did when i was town and it even worked!! But hey let's call rayn scum here because it's so convoluted!!! Because it is. True story guis, rayn is mafia lets murder him with fire. Why did you expect me to call you mafia for what I did?
because you always do?
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On April 30 2020 07:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 30 2020 07:38 Vivax wrote:On April 30 2020 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 30 2020 07:11 Vivax wrote:On April 30 2020 07:06 Trfel wrote:On April 29 2020 14:44 Vivax wrote:I don't think there's much merit to Kurumi calling Trfel mafia just for the lazy thing. In my opinion, it's not worth reading too much into, but it was also too early to call Trfel town. Rayn for one, is already saying 'Vivax will probably call me mafia for it', which implies he thinks I'm town. I'll skip the part of voting him for that because he'll just say 'good job' like last time that happened. Rayn more or less tried to pull off what I did with Jock two games ago (who was mafia and pushed Trfel aggressively with flimsy reasons), though the circumstances are different. Then he said I should read him mafia for it, which doesn't make much sense considering he should know that I still remember that fact well. And while I agree that Kurumi should know better than harping on Trfel's NAI posts, it's unfair to say he did that on his own after rayn led him to do that. Summing it up: It kind of feels like rayn here is trying to paint Kurumi mafia with the reasons I used on Jock, while trying to make me unable to call him mafia for it because he's emulating what we both did as town in the last games. So yeah rayn, you are right I will call you mafia for it And Trfel is mafia too, because right after he realized he should be scumreading you, he went and made a scum case on Kurumi in order to not have to. ##Unvote
##Vote rayn Does anyone actually understand what Vivax is trying to say here? I keep reading this and can't understand it No, I don't remember what reasons were used last game, the logic here feels so convoluted. I don't think that it makes Vivax mafia (I see no mafia motivation), I'm just really confused. I'll be back in an hour or two to catch up on the rest of the thread. In my head, I take full credit for dunking Jock trying to mislynch you in that one game. And the reason I jumped at rayn here is because it felt like he was doing to Kurumi what I did to Jock...And expected me to call him mafia for it, which I didn't find believable. It seems convoluted because it is. i am not sure if i should play mafia. I think rayn was doing something to someone, the same thing i did when i was town and it even worked!! But hey let's call rayn scum here because it's so convoluted!!! Because it is. True story guis, rayn is mafia lets murder him with fire. Why did you expect me to call you mafia for what I did? because you always do? You're saying when I'm town I apply reasons I am typically town for to call others mafia?
i have no idea what youre trying to ask me here.
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I am simply just saying you are paranoid in almost every game. That will make you play bad, like me thinking too scummy to be scum is not scum (as i usually do).
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On April 30 2020 08:22 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you really see the light now Trfel? Like that post from Vivax explains everything? I don't agree with it, no. But I think I understand it. Even if I think it's really silly.
explain please then.
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I have many problems with grackaronis posts.
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Hmm.. Maybe Koshi is right. Can it just be Jock/GB/Grack?
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On April 30 2020 20:45 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have many problems with grackaronis posts. Care to explain? I don't think I felt the same way :/ Though I can always reread.
It's mostly because he seems to be deciding on some reads and then looking for something to fit those reads. Let's see:
There is way more to be said about Vivax than what Grack writes. Anyways that part isn't my main concern.
On Kurumi:
Here I don't see scum trying to explain why they aren't voting for somebody because they think another person might have a role. It doesn't seem like the kind of reasoning that mafia would come up with to justify avoiding voting on a partner.
I can understand people thinking Kurumi is town. There is nothing wrong with that. However grack's reasoning here is that because rayn is mafia Kurumi cannot be mafia because Kurumi wouldn't do what he did in regards of Trfel and rayn. It's like absolutely idiotic to say Kurumi is town for that reason (especially when he later on says his read on me isn't even that strong). I think it's just a made up reason.
Then there is the read on me:
Rayn worries me. I made a note that I felt Rayn seemed defensive about needing to justify his own read more than having a strong scumread on Kurumi
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If Rayn isn't interested in Kurumi that makes me feel stronger about my original interpretation of his post.
It also seemed pretty clear to me that he was trying to win over Koshi while talking to him. Maybe he just has a fairly confident town read on Koshi, or he's got an interest in getting a Jock lynch over GB.
Let's see here.. When ever have i had problems making a case on a townie when i am mafia, regardless of who the said person is (note that Grackaroni has already decided that Kurumi is town)? Like, Grack thinks i am mafia because i am afraid of calling Kurumi mafia. Does that sound reasonable knowing me -- to ANYONE? Because it shouldn't.
The second part is also suspicious. Apparently it is suspicious for me that i am trying to win Koshi over? If it's not a thing that makes me suspicious then what is that whole thing doing in Grack's "rayn is mafia" post? Well, the thing here is that let's say this is true and i am mafia trying to win Koshi over. That should automatically translate (or the starting point should be) that Koshi is town. Why would i otherwise try to win Koshi over as mafia? Except that Grackaroni apparently doesn't think Koshi is town because it's not even in his weak town reads with Kurumi and Vivax.
I don't really have a "problem" with the FF read, although i think FF is an easy target to attack here, since he hasn't done that much in comparison to other people. Ironically that's actually a town thing for FF. He is way more focused and "clean" as mafia than he is as town, which was the original reason for me townreading him, that hasn't changed.
Also also.... I feel like GB is just saying stuff for sake of saying stuff. Like in almost all of his posts he declares why noone can ever think Kurumi is mafia and how Kurumi is 100% town but he has no indication of trying to ever figure out anything about the people who disagree with him. Knowing GB i would assume him to be fully shouting at me and Trfel at least. Instead of doing that (i mean like something productive) he is more interested in just backing on his own read.
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On April 30 2020 21:19 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2020 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 30 2020 05:39 Vivax wrote:On April 30 2020 05:35 Koshi wrote:
GB:
Silly questions
No waves
Bit unfunny oncomfortable gif
Comes out of lurk to devour poor green jock
Excuses to continue lurk i lol'd Rayn what's the really dumb thing Jock did? The whole voting Koshi then unvoting and every piece of it for shit reasons. Rayn I'm not too convinced by this reasoning for your vote here. What makes you sure he wasn't legit joking/making a play there when he added the smiley at the end? I'm not.
Because he said he wasn't joking.
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The thing with Jock is that as mafia he does incredible shit. Like last game he fought with Trfel for like a hundred posts and it took me to ask him why isn't he just fucking voting for his scumread? Some time after he jsut dropped the read for ??? into voting NOT his other scumread hapa but some random person who happened to be his mafia buddy. I got really confused about that and i thought it was too bad to be scum, which apparently was the whole point of it.
Basically all the other mafia players in last two games have just been straight out saying bad stuff, if that's how you lynch mafia i am voting for people who do bad stuff. Jock is doing bad stuff.
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EBWOP: All the other mafia players than Trfel the game before last game
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Koshi wasn't freely posting when Shockeyy voted for him tbh. He only started after Shockeyys vote.
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I am trying to make a point that if Shockeyy wants to pressure vote Koshi or thinks his entrance was scummy timeline-wise it makes sense. Koshi wasn't posting other than his opening -> Shockeyy votes. Koshi starts posting -> Shockeyy unvotes. I am not saying Koshi started posting just because Shockeyy voted for him lol.
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I don't see why he has to townread Koshi? He just has to think he is maybe not mafia anymore.
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