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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 17:56 GMT
#1696
Coincidentally, you're saying Koshi is town AFTER I started voting him and pointing out his flawed read
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 17:57 GMT
#1698
On May 07 2020 02:55 Trfel wrote:
Well it's up to you guys now. The information is in the thread, do what you want with it. I wish you the best.

I'll be back in an hour or so to see what happened.


Well, I've asked you questions. You can answer them.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 17:58 GMT
#1700
On May 07 2020 02:56 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2020 02:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 07 2020 02:48 Trfel wrote:
On May 07 2020 02:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 07 2020 02:41 Trfel wrote:
Are you counterclaiming? Or just accusing me of fakeclaiming without a second blue claim??

Surprised you didn't go for the "I was framed!" approach honestly.


Why would I say I was framed? I don't believe there are THREE power roles with TWO investigative roles in the game. Claiming now is very opportunistic, since you were piling votes. This is you, as mafia, trying to guarantee a win now. If you mislynch, you win.
Since when did you believe Chezinu's claim? o.O


We've discussed this a lot today, didn't we? I've been trying to get more information from him to confirm this, there is a possibility he is the doctor. And if you don't believe Chez is the doctor, why are you assuming he is in your claim post?

Also, if your claim is true, why did you track Koshi, out of every other player?
I never said Chezinu was the doctor in my claim post?

Check my filter N1 and my case on Koshi, that's why. And guess why I backed off of it D2?


You said Chez was roleblocked. You're not assuming he is a PR?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 18:11 GMT
#1715
DEAR TOWN: You have to decide between me or Trfel. You either believe Trfel's claim is true and that I'm actually mafia, or he is mafia fakeclaiming to guarantee a win. Anything other than this is just WIFOM.

I am VT and if you mislynch me, you'll lose.
Trfel's claim is oportunistically done near deadline to guarantee a lynch on me after he realized town wasn't surely being lynched today, especially when he started having votes piled on him. Considering we already had a flipped cop, is already unbalanced for mafia to have another investigative power role, ESPECIALLY if Chez is the doctor.
Also, if he was really the tracker, he could've avoided so much discussion and helped town organizing themselves to narrow the lynch pool to possible mafia. Instead, he chose to have day3 spent most of time to endless discussion.

Conviniently, he puts Koshi as town saying he was tracked night 1 when I start pushing Koshi, pointing out inconsistencies in his read.

Everything about this claim, the timing and the choices, are made to have me mislynched, also guaranteeing that jock is on the chop and that Koshi isn't. The claim is fake and designed to guarantee his team a certain win day3.

It's up to you to decide. If you believe in it, then GG.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 18:22 GMT
#1730
Also, why would he vote jock and keep pushing me during day3, instead of immediately going after me if I'm basically confirmed scum in his eyes? Also, why didn't he just tracked jock if he was the most suspicious person for him?
Please think of this, everything is prepared for a nead deadline claim to have me mislynched or jock mislynched.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 18:47 GMT
#1755
I'm here if you wanna talk
DON'T WIFOM. It's pretty straight forward: you either believe Trfel's claim is true or not.
Anything other than this is WIFOM that mafia can feed from, especially when their partner is up to be lynched
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 18:50 GMT
#1760
On May 07 2020 03:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2020 03:45 Chezinu wrote:
On May 07 2020 03:43 Vivax wrote:
But wait. If it's Chez + Trfel, who the fuck is the third mafia? Has to be Koshi or Grack.

##Unvote

Evil Vivax, you know I would have voted already if I was mafia.


No, you're just going to pile into the townie at the end. That's why you aren't committing.
I'll have to go with Trfel being town here, or everything I believed was wrong.

##Vote Glowingbear


Vivax, I'm town. Everything in Trfel's claim was prepared to mislynch me. If he was really worried about organizing town and lynching mafia, he would've claimed way earlier and guarantee a lynch on me, while also narrowing the lynch pool.

The fact that he decided to claim near deadline, especially when votes were changing, shows that he was going to the easy path.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 18:51 GMT
#1761
IF YOU'RE TOWN, MOVE TO TRFEL
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 19:00 GMT
#1777
Pew pew
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 19:23 GMT
#1791
Well, GG
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 06 2020 19:26 GMT
#1794
There's a framer that framed me and Trfel tracked me. Of course you'll won't believe me so if we get past this night you're going to kill me tormorrow.

I won't be posting anymore since game is already lost so good luck
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 19:06 GMT
#1814
On May 08 2020 04:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Endgame
[image loading]


I was really hoping for something to happen but the moral of the story is that bear gang is always right.

Vivax the BogdaBoomer (Mason Roleblocker) is victorious!
Jockmcplop the US Senator (Godfather) is victorious!
GlowingBear the Motley Fool Contributor (Framer) is victorious!

Chezinu the Federal Reserve Chairman (Doctor) has been endgamed!
Grackaroni the Daytrader (VT) has been endgamed!
Alakaslam the Daytrader (VT) has been endgamed!
Koshi the Daytrader (VT) has been endgamed!


Notes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mqEYRq4uMPRj1iKyeEZ2J7of0l2wTYXIffcDMp2l-WI/edit#gid=0
Obs QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/fFEW3FQH2D86
Scum QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/73232t5tShbB7
Bog QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/53/H/sxJWRh5kt3Q


The moral of the story is

YOU CAN'T TRUST THE SYSTEM!
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 19:09 GMT
#1818
On May 08 2020 04:08 Vivax wrote:
THAT TRFEL LYNCH LOL

[image loading]


[image loading]
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 19:11 GMT
#1821
On May 08 2020 04:10 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2020 04:08 Vivax wrote:
THAT TRFEL LYNCH LOL

[image loading]


I can't believe it wasn't a mafiastack. This game should be scrubbed off this forum.


Mafia did a great job to confuse town.
Especial shotout to Vivax for his outstanding mafia play.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 19:21 GMT
#1830
On May 08 2020 04:13 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2020 04:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 08 2020 04:10 Kurumi wrote:
On May 08 2020 04:08 Vivax wrote:
THAT TRFEL LYNCH LOL

[image loading]


I can't believe it wasn't a mafiastack. This game should be scrubbed off this forum.


Mafia did a great job to confuse town.
Especial shotout to Vivax for his outstanding mafia play.


While winning so fast as a Mafia team is commendable no doubt, you and Jock were dead if Town had another chance. D1 lynch wasn't decided by you, D2 lynch wasn't decided by you and holy shit the D3 lynch wasn't decided by you either.


You underestimate the ability of getting town confused. No one in this game had the 3 mafia guessed right, neither had the obs qt. Even if I and jock died, Vivax would have solo'ed this game easily.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 19:25 GMT
#1834
If anyone check the scum QT, we have almost 500 messages.

You can't blame solely town for the loss. You guys had to face a very organized scum team that could almost 100% accurately guess roles.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 19:27 GMT
#1837
On May 08 2020 04:24 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2020 04:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 08 2020 04:13 Kurumi wrote:
On May 08 2020 04:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 08 2020 04:10 Kurumi wrote:
On May 08 2020 04:08 Vivax wrote:
THAT TRFEL LYNCH LOL

[image loading]


I can't believe it wasn't a mafiastack. This game should be scrubbed off this forum.


Mafia did a great job to confuse town.
Especial shotout to Vivax for his outstanding mafia play.


While winning so fast as a Mafia team is commendable no doubt, you and Jock were dead if Town had another chance. D1 lynch wasn't decided by you, D2 lynch wasn't decided by you and holy shit the D3 lynch wasn't decided by you either.


You underestimate the ability of getting town confused. No one in this game had the 3 mafia guessed right, neither had the obs qt. Even if I and jock died, Vivax would have solo'ed this game easily.


As I posted earlier, it was Vivax vs Slam against all confirmed Town if Jock gets lynched properly instead of Trfel. So no "easy" out.


And Vivax would never me lynched over Slam, so, yeah.
You're basically saying that town could've win because of mechanics. You're taking off all the merits of the scum team.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 20:04 GMT
#1854
On May 08 2020 04:58 Trfel wrote:
Nah I'm sorry Kurumi, that was my fault. I knew it was a bad lynch, I just didn't have any better ideas because I'm absolutely awful on Day 1. I'm sure I would have been able to turn around and townread you if you had not died on Day 1. My sincerest apologies, that wasn't your fault at all.

Sorry town I tried to explain why I did what I did in my large post, I didn't think I'd have to defend myself much so the important parts for my own defense I put in a spoiler at the bottom that never seemed to get read

I was trying to avoid claiming because I was certain Jockmcplop was mafia and I was hoping to get one more track action off. I would have tracked Alakaslam, which if it had all worked out, would have been really helpful in trying to realize that Alakaslam was town after all. I ended up claiming when it looked like we were going to not lynch Jockmcplop at End of Day, it had nothing to do with the suspicion on myself.

Also just very disappointed that I claimed with two hours until End of Day and everyone sat there and only started being suspicious with one hour until End of Day, when I had to leave, exactly like I said I would, but everyone knew that mafia would only try to do something during that time. I don't think it would have gone down that way if I had been present and able to post.

I just feel really awful, that's 2/3 of my last town games I've been a blue role and managed to get lynched anyway So much for my former unlynchable self

Sorry again.


Don't be sorry, you were actually our biggest threat. Playing the game was hard when you kept asking for reads. Which makes me happy that you actually internalized this habit. Mafia will always have a bad time when they are being constantly pushed to fabricate reads while having to deal with managing the votecount.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 21:17 GMT
#1865
On May 08 2020 05:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Yea, I didn't want to go in there blasting my name not knowing who my other mason brother was... I feel like if I would of given my name, it definitely would of given ammo to mafia even more.


That's exactly what mafia would think.
I don't think the mason thing influenced the game but if you're town, coming clean is always the preferred choice. If the other person is being shady, chances are he is mafia.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 07 2020 21:18 GMT
#1866
On May 08 2020 06:14 Hapahauli wrote:
Anyone interested in some post-game analysis/commentary? I can type something up tonight. Open to suggestions as to format (player grades, mafia analysis, game themes, etc.).


I'd love to read it.
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