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On April 01 2020 09:17 Palmar wrote: I think today is a good day to kill Rels how is this a post that declares that your reads have changed significantly, then disappears ... I thought it was a parody of my D2 post On March 30 2020 00:56 Rels wrote: It's a good day to kill Palmar actually ##Vote Palmar Time to play or die | ||
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On March 30 2020 04:26 Palmar wrote: It's so fucking tiring that people double guess everything and never just play this game in a simple way. Mafia people play like mafia Town people play like town HF got into a huge dick measuring contest with GB, ergo they're both town. Vivax made good reads and was just all around chill and cool guy, ergo he's town. KSC came around and actually tried, ergo town. LS is town because I said so Rels is probably dumb enough to be town Trfel could be mafia because he's completely uninteresting. Sentinel is almost certainly mafia, his filter is shit Shockeyy is probably the other one, he sounds like mafia. Nobody is going to try to read Chez, but I'm kinda fine with him not dying at the moment. Just kill the people that look and sound like mafia. Stop fucking overthinking everything. On March 30 2020 04:28 Palmar wrote: sure I might be wrong on something but it's really annoying that we can't just assume there's no massive fuckery or super good mafia play. It's like that huge game where HF (who is fucking atrocious at day 1 scumhunting) lynched me on day 1 after I correctly called out like 3 mafia. Then rayn, who is ghosting chez in this game, complained in the post game that the mafia played like mafia and that was too obvious. And I'm like ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? MAFIA PLAYS LIKE MAFIA? Who'd have thought? ... This is just stupid. Sentinel/Shockeyy today, my vote is sent. like, in his view, I'm town, and 2 of Trfel / Sent / shockey are scum, the 3 lowest post counts in the game. Sent flips, shockey dies, Trfel doesn't do anything new and still looks pretty bad, maybe even more than before because association. But Chez does a case that is pretty bad: Palmar's whole game view changes, and now he votes me? Without seeing what I have to say? By making me believe his vote was troll, we lost 36 hours that we could have had to discuss. | ||
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On March 30 2020 04:18 Palmar wrote: Vivax was the towniest townie that ever towned in this game. Not my fault you couldn't see it. 3 of the most active people in the thread thought Vivax was scummy at night. Yet he dies anyway. Why? This is a weird kill, in my mind that was a blue snipe attempt. If Palmar is scum, he thought Vivax was obvious town though, so that explains the night kill. | ||
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I don't want to be influenced by him voting me though | ||
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On April 03 2020 00:18 Chezinu wrote: I had a ray of thought. It goes like this: I dont think rels' defense is valid. Its true he probably could have made a case on trfel and even get him lynched d2 but actually bussing sentinel who already apparently did his job n1 is the best play for anyone who is mafia. Sentinel is gonna get lynched anyways, if not d2 then d3. So why not gain town credit while he can? The incriminatimg part is that when there is only one mafia left, rels is sure trfel is the last mafia and STILL hasnt made the "sure mafia" case, other than that what sentinel has posted. And thats bull. When people think they found they are proud of it and want other people to know it, i mean as town. Rels isnt. "Why would i do that as mafia" doesnt cut it because i dont care, as i dont know what mafia "would" do other than that what i would do. Rels isnt acting like a townie should, before or after sentinel flip. Why would I need to make a case? Until just now, I was sure that Trfel was always the lynch | ||
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On April 03 2020 00:27 GlowingBear wrote: Btw Rels, why do you think Chez is confirmed town? The chat logs between Chez and rayn. I know you don't agree, but I think rayn never would have faked these. I think it would be cheating in his mind. | ||
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On April 03 2020 00:47 Palmar wrote: This is also a weak-ass vote. If I'm mafia my explanation is going to be bullshit, and if you don't think I'm mafia why are you voting me? in general maybe, but in this case it's absolutely good. I should have done it sooner, if I had done that the minute you voted me, we would have had the whole day to arguee | ||
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On April 03 2020 00:46 Palmar wrote: Chez's case is correct. can you explain in your own words this case please? | ||
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On April 03 2020 00:52 Palmar wrote: Actually fuck it, I'm changing my mind. Trfel has a 4 page filter Rels has a 9 page filter I'm voting Trfel This is a good case. ????? I feel like you were only preparing your vote for tomorrow after Trfel flips town, but now that I'm a real lynch candidate you're backing off | ||
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On April 03 2020 00:56 Palmar wrote: I've never noticed but Trfel seems to type out the full name of every player at all times. He'll always talk about Holyflare, GlowingBear and [UoN]Sentinel instead of just using HF, GB, Sent etc. That's a really strange habit. I do not trust robots. Another good point in my case. lol I like this because it's easy to prove/disprove if he did it before as town | ||
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On April 03 2020 00:57 Rels wrote: lol I like this because it's easy to prove/disprove if he did it before as town he does it in his previous game, this point is shit https://tl.net/forum/mafia/549333-minifeast-15?user=Trfel&view=all | ||
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On July 03 2019 06:56 Trfel wrote: Sorry I'm not going to be very active until later tonight. It's a busy day for me, and I just learned that the company I've really been looking forward to working with is only giving me a temporary contract position instead of full employment, which is very disappointing after I've been unemployed for 15 months now  so I'm pretty sad and out of it.Been filter diving from the top. I like raynpelikoneet, his play seems to match his play last game very well. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and he's still not focusing in and incessantly pushing single things. The thing that makes me townread him is that (assuming Eversince is town, which admittedly there is a chance I am wrong, but that is my current read) on Holyflare's comment he instantly switched his vote back to Eversince and has resolutely kept it there. If raynpelikoneet is mafia he knows that this is wrong, and in accordance with his "new," non-tunneling style of play I think he would be a bit more hesitant/reserved with that. Which makes me think he is town. If I explained that adequately. Unsure about Jockmcplop currently. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On July 02 2019 16:30 Jockmcplop wrote: Lynching lurkers isn't always trash. I personally don't see the rush to figure out a vote right now. I guess we all play differently but I'd rather wait until near the deadline to gather as much as possible first. On July 02 2019 16:38 Jockmcplop wrote: Fair enough. What do you think of Pandain? Immediately reversing his only read is a little suspicious and 'I changed my perspective' is a very opaque answer as to what happened. It kinda it makes it impossible to progress a conversation about what exactly pandain is thinking. Not being open about your thought process is mafia motivated at this point, especially when something like his trfel read debacle sticks out so obviously in the thread. His vote on you also seems like he's forcing something, trying to be first to vote for some reason. I can see mafia motivation everywhere with this guy already. ##vote pandain On July 02 2019 16:46 Jockmcplop wrote: Pandain made no posts in between these posts.I know I said I didn't need to vote early, but this really jumped out at me. Pandain come back and be more town for me, I don't like having such a strong scumread so early lol. I know this has already been pointed out, but this scumread of Pandain feels somewhat fabricated. It feels like his suspicions of Pandain kinda came out of nowhere, it feels a bit forced to me. I could easily be wrong though; I'd like to see more from Jockmcplop, I think he's put himself in an interesting position with the null read on Eversince and the current vote count. @Jockmcplop, do you have an explanation for your thought process through the quoted posts? Holyflare, this sentence is for you, just because I know you like seeing your name on things. So far I'm suspicious of Eywa-. Eywa- feels a bit self-conscious, which seems highly opposite their town play last game. + Show Spoiler [Analysis] + On July 03 2019 02:43 Eywa- wrote: Very similar to posts that Eywa- made last game as town.The biggest reason is her role PM. Probably RNG. On July 03 2019 05:01 Eywa- wrote: But this didn't come up last game at all? Feels like Eywa- is self-conscious about not giving reasons in this game, which wasn't at all present last game, despite playing in a very similar way.The role pm part was a joke... Oops, somehow it's being quoted in every post now. On July 03 2019 04:35 Eywa- wrote: I don't think you're the only good lynch, but I think you're the most likely to get lynched of the narrow pool of acceptable lynches. The difference is negligible, so we can say you're the best lynch... or tied for the slot at least. On July 03 2019 05:07 Eywa- wrote: Idk, feels like you've slipped a bunch and you're reluctant to just tell people they're wrong when reading you. You on multiple occasions tiptoed around that either indicating you don't like the way you're being read or that you felt a read on you was justified (despite it being a mafia read) You also haven't provided much substance imo despite aggressively posting (I know, I'm the one talking...) Overall, I'm failing to see any reason to not lynch you. Hopefully this falls into the category of sufficient justification, because I won't be going into any of the scum theater, that's discussion for another day. Throw your vote down and stop saying how much you don't like my position, if you don't like it, put your vote where your mouth is. On July 03 2019 05:31 Eywa- wrote: It feels like Eywa-'s scumread and vote on Eversince is just following the momentum of everyone else, the reasons and actual strength behind the read comes out later. Eywa- even admits that Eversince is just the most likely lynch out of a narrow pool. Side note, what is Eywa-'s lynch pool anyway? They only mentioned four townreads, which leaves four remaining players, I'd say that's quite a wide lynch pool, instead of the narrow pool Eywa- claims...Nah, your start to this game (basically your entire first page of game (not including pre-game) filter is: 1) trying to pocket Pandain 2) random town read on first player to post 3) trying to pocket Pandain 4) AtE There's some random comment about how you don't mind conversion (that was contradicted like 2-3 posts later - and then later escalated again). Overall, here's a summary... You're all over that AtE this game You're always coming back to Pandain mafia and claiming that his read on you is wrong... Well, if he's mafia... He's not wrong is he? He's just... Well, Mafia. You went through a phase of trying to name drop every player in the game, which lead to some reads escalating rather... Strangely. You seem to be displaying a complete lack of understanding for why anyone is being read in certain ways rather than seeing things from their (town) perspective. I'm voting ES now, I'll be voting ES at end of day as well. But Eywa-'s scumread on Eversince increases in strength from "Eversince is one acceptable lynch out of a group of acceptable lynches" to "I'm lynching Eversince no matter what," and the only reasons cited are all from posts and events that happened before the first post in question. It feels extremely opportunistic to me and somewhat forced. @Eywa-, can you explain your thought process through the quoted posts? I'm interested in how your read on Eversince has changed over those posts, and what caused that change. I haven't gotten to Conversion and Grackaroni yet, and I need to reread Pandain; I will try to do so as soon as I can. Heading out for a bit. | ||
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On April 03 2020 01:09 Palmar wrote: I hated the "pressure" vote you put on me. It's a super dumb idea. It's one of the reasons I contemplated you just being mafia but decided I wanted to go with "dumb" instead. Then you agreed on sent and promised to case Trfel. There is no need to case Trfel, and there already a really, really good case on Sent, the fact that he's not doing anything at all. Even then, why didn't you immediately vote Sent to "pressure" him like you did me? GB even asked you why you wouldn't vote him, you just said Trfel is more likely. It feels like we had to drag the vote on Sentinel out of you, and I don't know why you promised a case on Trfel. In fact, if you couldn't write the case up, I doubt you had one. Cases come, at least to me, sorta organically. I just write them as I'm thinking. Also I think Chez is town and he's a pretty good scumhunter, so sheeping him is smart. that's not Chez's case though | ||
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On April 01 2020 06:13 Chezinu wrote: Look and behold, I saw a bright beam of light. I gazed at it's frequency and felt the vibrations that hummed: Rels wanted to lynch Trfel over Sentinel, waited for Palmar, Palmar said nothing new to what he said before. Rels promised to write a case on Trfel. He didn't follow up, and after Sentinel flip the only case he provided is reasoned on because Sentinel was mafia. ggnore oh actually that is this Chez case | ||
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