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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2020 21:27 GMT
#143
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2020 22:37 GMT
#148
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2020 22:40 GMT
#149
On March 26 2020 07:26 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?
I don't really see much of note currently. Interested by Holyflare voting for [UoN]Sentinel but I don't really care much about [UoN]Sentinel at the moment myself. Anything you want to talk about?


Ya I interested in that as well and want to see how that push goes.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2020 22:52 GMT
#151
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2020 23:13 GMT
#154
On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.


The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak.

We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2020 23:17 GMT
#156
On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.


The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak.

We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about?


I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case.

ya i finding that push from HF being meh at best hence why I want to see where it goes because otherwise it's a very bad case.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 01:12 GMT
#163
On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread.

HF, is Vivax town?

And what you got out of that push onto Rels?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 02:47 GMT
#183
If Vivax is mafia we can 100% by Day 2/Day 3 area
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 02:47 GMT
#184
On March 26 2020 11:47 LightningStrike wrote:
If Vivax is mafia we can tell 100% by Day 2/Day 3 area

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 02:55 GMT
#186
Well I am going to bed as I am very tired when I will check what I missed!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 13:56 GMT
#237
Just woke up and saw HF also casing KSC although it not the worst case in the world but I aint biting it and KSC's reaction though seems very over the top? Dunno how to feel about that. Palmar's entrance is meh. I hope someone can actually help me read HF this game....
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 14:54 GMT
#240
On March 26 2020 22:58 Palmar wrote:
I have upgraded shockeyy to definitely mafia.

Feel free to explain.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 15:49 GMT
#242
Palmar unless you got a legit case I don't really see why Shockeyy is scum honestly.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 18:52 GMT
#255
On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread.

HF, is Vivax town?

And what you got out of that push onto Rels?


Nothing, I was just getting traction.

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On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote:
On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote:
zZz


Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me!


Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia?

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote:
On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

why?
Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.


This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia.

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On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote:
If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia.

For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read

On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote:
and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV


I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game.

Mafia have three main objectives:
  • Blend
  • Sew discontent
  • Survive


The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems:

1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad.
2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them.
3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad.


Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee.

On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.


The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak.

We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about?


I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case.

On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead )

going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted.
LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads.

no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache.
the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone.


There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny.

Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible.

Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway".

Kelsier's current mindset if town: ??????
Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on.




These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons.

Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these.

On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote:
On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Setup Information


The exact roles in this game are as follows:

Antivaxxer
Coughing Boomer

American Doctor
8x Healthy Boomer


fixed


This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting.

Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least.


you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts?

lul x2


Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions.

On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?


last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read.


Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta.

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.


Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads.

On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.


The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak.


Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing.




To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia.


Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad.

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On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.


Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia?

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On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote:
also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel.

Just lynch those 4 and the game is over.


Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out.

---

And this is basically what's interesting right now.

Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda.

##Vote: Holyflare

So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you.
##Vote: Holyflare
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 19:02 GMT
#259
On March 27 2020 03:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 27 2020 03:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 08:56 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, I was pushing Rels just to get some traction in the thread.

HF, is Vivax town?

And what you got out of that push onto Rels?


Nothing, I was just getting traction.

On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote:
On March 26 2020 09:49 GlowingBear wrote:
zZz


Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me!


Chez I'll speak! Are you mafia?

On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote:
On March 26 2020 10:58 Rels wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

why?
Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.


This is in the past, Trfel. Last game I've played with him he was very capable as mafia.

On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2020 12:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 26 2020 12:49 Holyflare wrote:
If you are town, Sentinel, you should be voting for Kelsier because he would be confirmed mafia.

For saying the wagon on me is bleh? I think it's too early in the game for that to be a scum read

On March 26 2020 13:36 Rels wrote:
and please explain why KSC should be conf scum in Sent POV


I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game.

Mafia have three main objectives:
  • Blend
  • Sew discontent
  • Survive


The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems:

1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad.
2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them.
3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad.


Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee.

On March 26 2020 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.


The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak.

We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about?


I think the push on sentinel blows a fat cock but I want to see who else jumps on it and pretends its a good case.

On March 26 2020 08:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Apparently I have to go to work tomorrow ( I don't as i'm not a key worker but my boss is a fuckhead )

going to sleep now but I will probably be posting from my office with the door closed. I think LS and vivax are pretty town. vivax because he has posted.
LS because the interaction felt ok and if I recall he is a fan of outrageous reads.

no one else has been impressive, would lynch chez because he gives me a headache.
the push on sentinel is bleh however he hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway , but I don't like listening to HF about anything. I operate in a no bully zone.


There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny.

Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible.

Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway".

Kelsier's current mindset if town: ??????
Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on.




These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons.

Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these.

On March 26 2020 04:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 04:04 Vivax wrote:
On March 26 2020 03:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 26 2020 03:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Setup Information


The exact roles in this game are as follows:

Antivaxxer
Coughing Boomer

American Doctor
8x Healthy Boomer


fixed


This is slightly scummy because after the game started he decided to read the setup before posting.

Made me laugh but I do agree with your logic at least.


you agree it's scummy to check the day post when a game starts?

lul x2


Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions.

On March 26 2020 06:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?


last thing I remember is he is AFK as fuck as mafia, so not a bad read.


Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta.

On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Hi all, thanks for being willing to help me out of my boredom and nothingness and play some mafia!

I'm pretty happy with Vivax as town, no?

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.


Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads.

On March 26 2020 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2020 07:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?


Guess you could fill me in on why GB is town and why Rels is town?


GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.


Feels like it is way to early to make reads like that, GB posted some random stuff and GIFS in the first page, it's not exactly a hard mimic. There is no way the Rels push was anything real at all, you should know that tbh so his reponse is pretty null aswell.

Bad reads.

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.


The only thing i'd give Rels credit for is he seemed to make an effort to understand all the nonsense chez posted and the resulting discussion. I just ignored all of that tbh. Rest of his play has been weak.


Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing.




To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia.


Funny, this case is basically about Kelsier but you're voting Sentinel. This is so bad.

On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.


Worst post on thread yet. Are these points alignment indicative? What do you believe these guys are? Town? Mafia?

On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote:
also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel.

Just lynch those 4 and the game is over.


Care to explain? At least explain why you're leaving Chez out.

---

And this is basically what's interesting right now.

Holyflare is mafia, he's pushing Kelsier while voting Sentinel. It doesn't make sense. I don't believe he is trying to solve the game, but he's just trying to fit people's post in a narrative to push his mafia agenda.

##Vote: Holyflare

So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you.
##Vote: Holyflare


What do you think of Sentinel and Kelsier, LS?
And Vivax?

Null on Sentinel he been very underwhelming but I don't think it was super scummy like HF made it out to be and townlean on Kelsier despite the over reaction by him mainly because he and I had the same thoughts on HF's push on Sent. Vivax I still got him as town like I stated earlier he is at least engaging in the game which he doesn't do much as scum.
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LightningStrike
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March 26 2020 19:03 GMT
#260
On March 27 2020 03:58 Vivax wrote:
Anyone got a plausible explanation for why GB is so oblivious to anything Sent-related?

Because that was the first big case in the game?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 19:19 GMT
#264
On March 27 2020 04:07 Vivax wrote:
Oh ninjad:

Show nested quote +
Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.


Yup, that's one of the reasons he's mafia for. Anti-town plays getting him read as town.
He didn't have any particular reason for coming snarky as that into the thread except for having rolled mafia.

tbh I find it more often than not that Town players do the self voting stuff myself which I had done plenty of times as town.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 19:29 GMT
#267
On March 27 2020 04:25 Vivax wrote:
Try with a simpler question then: What has he done so far in the game that could be called pro-town?

Good point and part of the reason why I had him null and not town is because of his stuff been very meh.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 20:08 GMT
#279
On March 27 2020 04:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Where's Damdred when you need him?

Same
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 26 2020 20:12 GMT
#281
On March 27 2020 04:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2020 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On March 27 2020 04:07 Vivax wrote:
Oh ninjad:

Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.


Yup, that's one of the reasons he's mafia for. Anti-town plays getting him read as town.
He didn't have any particular reason for coming snarky as that into the thread except for having rolled mafia.


Or it could mean he rather prove hes town with his death. I don't get the mentality of let's label him mafia because he self voted. It could also just be really bad play by town, this is definitely something I've done in the past, and have been labeled as mafia for it while I was town.


I do however understand the mentality of "oh obvious mafia is trying to pass as town". But in most cases, I don't think I've seen mafia self vote right off the bat.

This so much!
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