[N]Emergency Quarantine Mafia - Page 2

On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?

On March 26 2020 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:

I agree with the read is there anything else you want to talk about?

On March 26 2020 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:

GB is town because of his attitude which I don't think he can fake as mafia. Rels is town because he responded well to GB's push I thought at least.

On March 26 2020 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:

Good point but GB is usually more jokey as town than scum especially doesn't do these type of pushes this early as scum like in Battle of the Drams. Rels I can see your argument but I been liking his responses so far just want to see him push the game more.

On March 26 2020 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:

We can agree to disagree on the last part only. Is there anything else you want to talk about?

On March 26 2020 10:12 LightningStrike wrote:

And what you got out of that push onto Rels?

On March 26 2020 10:17 Chezinu wrote:


Hello! Wakey wakey little teddy bear! oh how memorizing you are! Please speak to me!

On March 26 2020 11:31 Trfel wrote:
Vivax typically has trouble Day 1 as mafia, here he seems present and quite comfortable.

On March 26 2020 14:01 Holyflare wrote:



I've evolved as a player. I see far beyond what normal players see and I can extrapolate things from a meta-analysis of this game.

Mafia have three main objectives:

• Blend
  
• Sew discontent
  
• Survive

The game relies on mafia making mistakes and outing themselves through having perfect knowledge and being unable to think and type with the naivety that a townie has. This leads to the following main problems:

1.They know that fundamentally all cases against townies are bad.
2.They know that all cases against mafia are good (or poorly explained but correct) but they need to discredit them or downplay them.
3.They have to jump on cases on townies that they know are fundamentally bad.

Kelsier is textbook mafia in this situation, regardless of Sentinel's townieness or mafia-ness. Kelsier's last posts are the hallmark of every mafia player with perfect information. It hits point 2 and 3 to a tee.




There is a fundamental disconnect between the information presented to Kelsier in the thread and his logical assumptions and progressions. In Kelsier's opinion, the case on Sentinel is bad but the case is majoritively based on the assumption that while being present in the thread and having the ability to post for the first 6 hours he has contributed nothing and his entries were unfunny.

Kelsier's current mindset if town: I have seen a case based on Sentinel doing nothing and I think it is terrible.

Then he follows up with a goodnight post (bolded for brevity) that he outlines "Sentinel hasn't done shit so I would lynch him anyway".

Kelsier's current mindset if town: ??????
Kelsier's mindset as mafia: The case on Sentinel is the only one in the thread so far, I need to find a reason to hop on it and he's doing nothing so he's easy to get rid of and put a vote on.

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These points are irrespective of the rest of his filter. Remember the mafia tenets I mentioned earlier? Mafia has perfect information, they know that all cases on townies are bad and have to "reason" out their reads. His filter is full of discrediting people's opinions for almost no reasons.

Mafia has perfect information and it's a beginner mafia mistake to town read people freely for bad reasons and also out yourself by arguing against OK-ish points (remember mafia tenet number 1?). Again, Kelsier's filter is littered with these.



Discredits a read for no reason. Makes no conclusions.



Jumps on giving a free town read to Vivax even though this is not his meta.



Discredits read on GB. This is all discrediting reads.



Says absolutely nothing about Rels again. Says he'd give him credit but also contradicts the credit right at the end of the point. The post amounts to nothing.

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To surmise, Kelsier is following all tenets of playing as mafia. He is playing destructively, rather than constructively with his perfect information (he discredits town reads people are giving frequently). He discredits the Sentinel push while meekly saying he'd join it right after. Kelsier has perfect information and is mafia.

On March 26 2020 15:10 Trfel wrote:
Holyflare's points on KelsierSC make sense to me. I also don't understand why KelsierSC thinks LightningStrike is town after repeatedly saying all of his reads are bad. Feels really arbitrary.

However I also don't understand why Holyflare calls out [UoN]Sentinel specifically for not scumreading KelsierSC when he later says that [UoN]Sentinel's alignment doesn't affect his case on KelsierSC? I'm very confused by this.

On March 26 2020 18:32 Palmar wrote:
also the pool of mafia is like trfel, shockeyy, ksc and sentinel.

Just lynch those 4 and the game is over.

On March 27 2020 03:52 LightningStrike wrote:

So I wasn't the only one who actually thought this as well even I didn't say it in the thread but I been thinking that for sure. I will vote HF with you.
##Vote: Holyflare

Sentinel
Lynching himself makes no sense as town.

On March 27 2020 04:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Or it could mean he rather prove hes town with his death. I don't get the mentality of let's label him mafia because he self voted. It could also just be really bad play by town, this is definitely something I've done in the past, and have been labeled as mafia for it while I was town.