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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 02 2019 22:09 GMT
#1318
On October 03 2019 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
The fuck?


yea surprised I caught you? I mean if we only have one blue the JK, it's easy to fake claim another blue.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 02 2019 22:09 GMT
#1320
No one is going to counter claim it since the town is so small already.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 02 2019 22:12 GMT
#1322
nah I'm just changing it based on possible scenarios, I'm town, but giving all the options before I get lynched duh.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 02 2019 22:13 GMT
#1324
plus I've been straight forward with all why scum reads. GB has been in that list for quite some time. How is that changing it?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 02 2019 22:19 GMT
#1327
that's only today for you, I've been calling him mafia since the get-go.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 02 2019 22:54 GMT
#1350
On October 03 2019 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 07:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
that's only today for you, I've been calling him mafia since the get-go.


Um, no. Literally my first post of the game is calling him mafia. He was in my mafia list. My entire catch up post was calling him mafia.

Try again.


Really want to play this game? I at least know how to read duddeeee....

This was your first post:

On September 06 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
/in


This was your next post when the game actually started:

On September 28 2019 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
FF seems pretty townie




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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 02:06 GMT
#1387
Ok, think about it this way, I'm not mafia. Now what are your reads?

Also why does town want to give up a kill on a possible mafia? If there's two people that are mafia, we have a 29% chance of killing one of them now. If there's three mafia, we have 43% chance.

If you Lynch me that's going to give a ton of odds over to mafia. I personally think there's a possibility of godfather, and role blocker. It's a NEWBIE game, why not teach both roles while at it.

Also I'm going to follow up in like 30mins with a big post. Just need to write it out. Then I won't be back for a till late.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 02:16 GMT
#1395
I hope I've never offended you CopCake, it's not my intent.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 02:18 GMT
#1397
On October 03 2019 11:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok, think about it this way, I'm not mafia. Now what are your reads?

Also why does town want to give up a kill on a possible mafia? If there's two people that are mafia, we have a 29% chance of killing one of them now. If there's three mafia, we have 43% chance.

If you Lynch me that's going to give a ton of odds over to mafia. I personally think there's a possibility of godfather, and role blocker. It's a NEWBIE game, why not teach both roles while at it.

Also I'm going to follow up in like 30mins with a big post. Just need to write it out. Then I won't be back for a till late.


I don’t mean to offend you, but nothing you say is relevant to the game and your reads are mostly based on WIFOM.

So, we have Holyflare saying he didn’t track tubesock into me. Who are you going to vote?


No offense taken, but that may also be the mafia talking. Cause I know damn well I'm not mafia. And I think I play an ok mafia role, so I think I can find them easily.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 02:56 GMT
#1405
On October 03 2019 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 11:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:11 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 11:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok, think about it this way, I'm not mafia. Now what are your reads?

Also why does town want to give up a kill on a possible mafia? If there's two people that are mafia, we have a 29% chance of killing one of them now. If there's three mafia, we have 43% chance.

If you Lynch me that's going to give a ton of odds over to mafia. I personally think there's a possibility of godfather, and role blocker. It's a NEWBIE game, why not teach both roles while at it.

Also I'm going to follow up in like 30mins with a big post. Just need to write it out. Then I won't be back for a till late.


I don’t mean to offend you, but nothing you say is relevant to the game and your reads are mostly based on WIFOM.

So, we have Holyflare saying he didn’t track tubesock into me. Who are you going to vote?


No offense taken, but that may also be the mafia talking. Cause I know damn well I'm not mafia. And I think I play an ok mafia role, so I think I can find them easily.


If you are town then GB should be almost confirmed mafia to you.


He's been confirmed, that's why I keep jumping around different partners for him, and why I had my vote on tubesock, but as of late, I don't think Tube is mafia. I gave my reasoning on that already.

On September 26 2019 07:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
The Great GB’S List of Early Reads (NOTE: VERY ACCURATE!!!1!)

boxerfred

FF
VIVAX
Eywax-


Got’em already!


When he gives himself up early game.

On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT


He's easily swayed just as HF mentions.

Then a lot of interaction between CopCake and GB calling each other town. Such as below.

On September 28 2019 03:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 03:45 CopCake wrote:
GB where are your reads now?

Let’s do cute work as detectives.



Currently you're my top town.

I still have to think about the others, but I don't have anything really strong.
I think Branch might be mafia. I agree with you about Shockey. Unsure about Tubesock.

The rest, I don't really have a clue.


On September 30 2019 12:32 FreezingFoot wrote:
No I'm not.

So here's where I'm at:

CopCake
Holyflare


Tubesock
Shockey


Vivax
Branch


If GB was really mafia, he wouldn't frame his partner Vivax this early in the game. And with branch claiming Jk, that only left Tube, Cop, and HF. Based on Tubes reads on GB screamed town to me, and I swear, if you go through both GB and CopCake's filter, it's all "lynch shockeyy". I personally think he voted boxerfred because he was gone, he was barely talking which is understandable<3 boxer, town power, and decided to save me as a later "easy town lynch" since I always scream I'm mafia. GB barely has a case on me since he only screams "LYNCH SHOCKEYY", "Shockey scum", etc.. through out his filter. I was mentioned by him over 90 times :D

His only case on me was literally a bunch of ham. I got more give me a few. Just wanted to post what I had for now.

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:08 GMT
#1407
On October 02 2019 12:32 FreezingFoot wrote:
[image loading]


He wouldn't as mafia? He can't give up partners that easy...

On October 03 2019 02:58 FreezingFoot wrote:
Vivax, unless something extraordinary happens, this is how the game will follow:

1) We lynch Tubesock and he flips red. Then we lynch you.

2) We lynch Tubesock and he flips green. We lynch holyflare.

There's no other option


Here he tries to claim all three of you are possible mafia, just trying to lynch who ever. I don't like claiming people as mafia until I know for certain they are. Look through his filter and he never once brings up the possibility of CopCake being mafia. I mean, I bring up everyone as a possibility. It actually helps at least for me.

When looking at Vivax, one of his posts were my favorite, I don't think a mafia would post this, especially if he isn't really keeping up.

On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


A team mate mafia member wouldn't post something like this either nah mean?

On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


Do you believe:

1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1?

2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2?

I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK.


I have a rather big qualm with the bolded.

If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here.


Vivax easily bussing his partner? nah I doubt it

On October 03 2019 05:05 Vivax wrote:
I wouldn't mind a GB lynch, especially the silence after his latest blooper kind of confirmed my suspicions. It's too bad cause I like having GB around :|

Plus he is a saint for that surprise comeback <3
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:10 GMT
#1408
On October 03 2019 12:04 Holyflare wrote:
What reads has tube given on gb that scream town?



On October 03 2019 07:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:25 CopCake wrote:
On October 02 2019 02:17 Tubesock wrote:
My hesitation on Shockeyy is why didn’t he vote Boxerfred to save himself? He was dying until GB swapped, but could have just voted Boxer and not been in much danger.

I don’t think mafia would do that. Otherwise I disagree with everything he’s posted after D1.


But that would only mean that GB is mafia and tried to save Shockey.

Thing he has done in the past btw.


Tube makes a great point here

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 04:26 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 02 2019 04:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So Tube and GB are team together? like I called earlier? Bahahahah.... I'm starting to think the team is Tube/GB/Cop easy.


YES SHOCKEY
WE ARE MAFIA TOGETHER
TUBESOCK VISITED ME N1 SO WE COULD HAVE A CUP OF TEA AND SHRIMP FLAVORED NOODLES AND LAUGH IN OUR COMFORTABLE MAFIA HOMES


If I want to believe tubes VT claim, then I'd replace Tubesock being his team mate here, and replace with the possible godfather role GB could be.

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.


Tube states that HF is possible mafia, and this is where it gets interesting since HF just mentioned he didn't actually track Tube, he was only setting up Tube to get lynched.

I totally can see an HF/GB mafia team.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:20 GMT
#1416
On October 03 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
Were you around at deadline when boxer died, Shockey?


No I wasn't looking at the timestamps, I had a post a few hours before however. And with my mind changing on Tube, it definitely leads me only to GB.

On October 01 2019 00:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But in all honesty, lets say boxer doesn't flip, who does that lead us too? I mean it doesn't change my read on Tubesock, I personally think he's the scummiest out of everyone since he's been the only active one.

As I said yesterday:

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 08:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count

FreezingFoot (2): Holyflare, Tubesock
Boxerfred(1): Tubesock, Vivax
ShoCkeyy(1): CopCake
Tubesock (0): Vivax
Branch.AUT (0): Holyflare
CopCake (0): Vivax

Not Voting (4): Branch.AUT, Boxerfred, Shockeyy, FreezingFoot

FreezingFoot is currently set to be lynched.

Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Monday, Sep 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in



If you exclude Branch and I from the not voting list, it leaves you Boxer + Freezing, Tube jumps on the Freezing train because he knows that may never go off with how others are targeting people such as myself. Copcake is just chasing after me because they hate me no matter what and would just rather see me lynched. Not a good townie, but understandable.

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:22 GMT
#1418
On October 01 2019 03:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 03:00 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:55 Branch.AUT wrote:
Its either 2/9 or 3/9 depending on how the game is set up. Neither I would consider as "pretty high". Id rather lynch with copcakes conviction than coinflip here.


Your math is wrong and that's not how mafia works either.

It's not going to be 6v3 because the game ends after basically 2 cycles and that's bad.

We have 8 players left and 2 of them are mafia that's a chance that you RANDOMLY hit mafia but this game isn't random, you can make pretty damn educated guesses about people's alignments.

Exluding cop/yourself and me which I am quite confident are town then that's 5 players left and 2 of them are mafia, 2/5 sounds a hell of a lot better than 2/9.

Then you weigh up their play. Boxer has promised activity, skirted activity requirements and has not returned to say anything. His chances of mafia go up quite a lot comparatively. Then when you factor in we get ANOTHER CYCLE if shockeyy is town and boxer is modkilled by killing boxer it's absolutely a no brainer.


FINE
IT'S BOXERFRED


I don't know what I think of this timing but I don't think if you were mafia you willingly extend the game another cycle unless you're specifically mafia and shockey is mafia and you were bussing shockey.


OH MY GOD HOLYFLARE WHY WOULD I DO THAT IF SHOCKEY WAS MAFIA? I WOULD NEVER VOTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


This post here based on CopCake's recent post about getting voted for town cred seems like he's lying then? :D
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:32 GMT
#1420
Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:40 GMT
#1424
On October 03 2019 12:35 Holyflare wrote:
I've already explained all of mafia gb's motives, doesn't seem like anything new. I have absolutely no idea how you've reached the conclusion I'm mafia with gb though. I'm the biggest advocate for his lynch at every point this game.


I had to go through all possibilities.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:42 GMT
#1426
On October 03 2019 12:38 Holyflare wrote:
Killing boxerfred as part of the plan I made was to make the game mylo instead of lylo. Then we no lynch the next day for more info and another cycle to talk.

If shockey is town then lynching him in mylo would lose us the game. That's part of the reason I scum read gb because he said he was following the plan and then advocated for a shockey lynch directly after.

Maybe he doesn't wanna do it now because it proves me town if shockey is town?


It's possible, that's why the narrative is trying to shift back to Vivax. Cause Vivax has also been scum read for most of the game by everyone.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:45 GMT
#1428
FF && Cop || Tube.

Also sorry dude, I'm actually on east coast, but currently in the west coast
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 03:53 GMT
#1439
On October 03 2019 12:51 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 12:47 Holyflare wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:47 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 12:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Even if I was here, I wouldn't have moved off. I'm not mafia nor am I GB. I would of actually preferred to get lynch cause I've been on a business trip since Sunday, but that didn't happen and I'm here doing my best to participate and help town out. Also as I mentioned in a earlier post, GB flip to boxer was because if I was voted off, it would of not been easy to lynch boxer later, I'm an easier lynch or they think. It would of changed the games dynamic from thinking I'm mafia to pointing towards others, mafia love that I get the attention, so why vote me off so early?


Why wouldn’t I simply kill two townies in a row?


Because if shockey is town you have a ready made wagon in mylo that everyone is amicable to lynch.


6v2
4v2 n2
3v2 d3

Vs

4v2 d3

Although what you say makes sense, I think I would prefer to kill 2 townies every time just to have more vote power d3.

Anyway, I should be voting shocked 100^, right? Especially if Vivax flips mafia.


There he goes again. With the Shockeyy Vivax lol... this guy.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 03 2019 04:33 GMT
#1458
On October 03 2019 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
I'll make a case after work tomorrow. Which starts in 3 hours.....


Go to sleep then? :D
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