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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 18:29 GMT
#1170
Ok so you're not.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 18:30 GMT
#1171
Meh I'll take your word for it for now. I also have no clue why I was thinking that it was Shockey being lynched.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 18:45 GMT
#1176
It seems like for once I have gotten a gift from my fellow players. They are lynching the guy I was asking to be lynched earlier for his semi-martyring.

I also miss quite a bit of emotionality in Tubes posting. But that could be explained away by him being a fresh dad. And as we do with caring parents around here, we kill them with fire for the blood god.

Joke aside, something is really rubbing me the wrong way here. People jump onto the guy I was scumreading previously because of unverified claims. It's too good to be true, but kinda tempting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 18:46 GMT
#1178
On October 03 2019 03:45 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 03:26 Vivax wrote:
HF is your tracker claim a never backtrack claim or are you just fooling around pretending to be what you are not as usual?

On October 03 2019 03:19 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


Do you believe:

1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1?

2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2?

I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK.


I have a rather big qualm with the bolded.

If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here.


Because a vet would auto-claim
Because a town roleblocker would've definitely claim since he caught the mafia guy carrying the kp
Because there is a JK that protected me, I have been universally townread n1, and no one died


I honestly have no idea why anyone should claim without being on the chopping block unless they are cop with a red check or two. Vet must never claim, roleblocker could expect another role in the game leading to the result, although losing a rber isn't really that bad.

I'll give it to you that you sound really convinced of yourself.

I'll give Tube a read and then HF but hopefully something kills me irl before I have to read through that.


Any vet should auto-claim after being shot for the sake of not wasting town's discussion on this guy's alignment.
If town roleblocker doesn't roleblock the carrier of the KP, we would have a NK day1

It's obvious and I don't know why we are wasting more time on this.


Veteran (you have 1 bulletproof vest. If shot at night your vest will break but you will survive. You will die if shot at night a second time. If roleblocked your vest doesn't protect you. You will not be notified if you are shot.)


AHEM.

Now you're really starting to look a bit too sure of yourself.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 18:52 GMT
#1182
On October 03 2019 03:51 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 03:45 Vivax wrote:
It seems like for once I have gotten a gift from my fellow players. They are lynching the guy I was asking to be lynched earlier for his semi-martyring.

I also miss quite a bit of emotionality in Tubes posting. But that could be explained away by him being a fresh dad. And as we do with caring parents around here, we kill them with fire for the blood god.

Joke aside, something is really rubbing me the wrong way here. People jump onto the guy I was scumreading previously because of unverified claims. It's too good to be true, but kinda tempting.


When have I martyred? My play has been described as “comically unemotional” by more than one player in my past games.

You only scumread me because I don’t have any hip reads this game.


That part where you put yourself in a list of people who should be lynched?

On September 29 2019 05:47 Tubesock wrote:
I think the lynch pool should be Branch, Boxer and I. The “nightkill” could have been a save, vet or afk team. I think it’s too early to claim, but if it was a save we will know soon enough, but if it’s afk team then that obviously changes stuff.

Reasons to lynch Branch: Eywa was town and has a very high correct reads rate. There’s something else I’m going to look at Eywa said, I’ll dig it up.

Boxer: policy, and has afk’ed before as mafia.

Tube: I’ve been afk, and should be forced to play more, otherwise will always be a question.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 19:00 GMT
#1185
On October 03 2019 03:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 03:46 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:45 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:26 Vivax wrote:
HF is your tracker claim a never backtrack claim or are you just fooling around pretending to be what you are not as usual?

On October 03 2019 03:19 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


Do you believe:

1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1?

2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2?

I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK.


I have a rather big qualm with the bolded.

If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here.


Because a vet would auto-claim
Because a town roleblocker would've definitely claim since he caught the mafia guy carrying the kp
Because there is a JK that protected me, I have been universally townread n1, and no one died


I honestly have no idea why anyone should claim without being on the chopping block unless they are cop with a red check or two. Vet must never claim, roleblocker could expect another role in the game leading to the result, although losing a rber isn't really that bad.

I'll give it to you that you sound really convinced of yourself.

I'll give Tube a read and then HF but hopefully something kills me irl before I have to read through that.


Any vet should auto-claim after being shot for the sake of not wasting town's discussion on this guy's alignment.
If town roleblocker doesn't roleblock the carrier of the KP, we would have a NK day1

It's obvious and I don't know why we are wasting more time on this.


Veteran (you have 1 bulletproof vest. If shot at night your vest will break but you will survive. You will die if shot at night a second time. If roleblocked your vest doesn't protect you. You will not be notified if you are shot.)


AHEM.

Now you're really starting to look a bit too sure of yourself.


?

If you are shot at night you auto-claim the day after. I don't get your point.


The point is that vets don't know when they get shot. So how to claim after getting shot?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 19:06 GMT
#1189
On October 03 2019 04:05 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 04:00 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:59 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:46 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:45 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:26 Vivax wrote:
HF is your tracker claim a never backtrack claim or are you just fooling around pretending to be what you are not as usual?

On October 03 2019 03:19 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 03:13 Vivax wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 02:49 Vivax wrote:
I have a hard time figuring out how it came to this Shockey wagon when nearly the entire day has been mostly role talk.

Another thing I don't understand is how Branch is so sure that his targets got saved instead of being mafia carrying kills. That puts us at a GB/HF impasse. This is what I meant when I said I expect at least 1 high profile mafia player. They could have been saved or as well both be mafia who got jailed when they were carrying a kill, or just one of each.

With the rampant shitposting going on today between them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia being so euphoric that their play worked. Plus, the more HF looks like town, the more likely he is to be scum.


Do you believe:

1) I am mafia and I was carrying the KP n1?

2) HF is mafia and was carrying KP n2?

I am town, so mafia knows I was protected. They knew we had either a JK ou a medic. Considering it could be a JK, I don't believe mafia would let Holyflare carry the kill since it's reasonable to consider he could be targeted by the JK.


I have a rather big qualm with the bolded.

If you are town, what makes you so sure you got hit when it might as well have been a town roleblocker blocking mafia or a vet taking the hit? It seems to me you are too eager to argue purely in your favour here.


Because a vet would auto-claim
Because a town roleblocker would've definitely claim since he caught the mafia guy carrying the kp
Because there is a JK that protected me, I have been universally townread n1, and no one died


I honestly have no idea why anyone should claim without being on the chopping block unless they are cop with a red check or two. Vet must never claim, roleblocker could expect another role in the game leading to the result, although losing a rber isn't really that bad.

I'll give it to you that you sound really convinced of yourself.

I'll give Tube a read and then HF but hopefully something kills me irl before I have to read through that.


Any vet should auto-claim after being shot for the sake of not wasting town's discussion on this guy's alignment.
If town roleblocker doesn't roleblock the carrier of the KP, we would have a NK day1

It's obvious and I don't know why we are wasting more time on this.


Veteran (you have 1 bulletproof vest. If shot at night your vest will break but you will survive. You will die if shot at night a second time. If roleblocked your vest doesn't protect you. You will not be notified if you are shot.)


AHEM.

Now you're really starting to look a bit too sure of yourself.


?

If you are shot at night you auto-claim the day after. I don't get your point.


The point is that vets don't know when they get shot. So how to claim after getting shot?


OOOOOOOOH WTFFFFFF


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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 19:46 GMT
#1209
HF, the only one who could have figured that out is Palmar. Kudos for the effort though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 20:05 GMT
#1221
I wouldn't mind a GB lynch, especially the silence after his latest blooper kind of confirmed my suspicions. It's too bad cause I like having GB around :|

Plus he is a saint for that surprise comeback <3
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 20:47 GMT
#1247
On October 03 2019 02:58 FreezingFoot wrote:
Vivax, unless something extraordinary happens, this is how the game will follow:

1) We lynch Tubesock and he flips red. Then we lynch you.

2) We lynch Tubesock and he flips green. We lynch holyflare.

There's no other option


Could you adjust your plan of action to a HF-first lynch ? Purely because I don't understand why I'm mafia if Tubesock is red when I have been advocating for his lynch prior to this day.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 02 2019 22:12 GMT
#1323
On October 03 2019 07:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
The fuck?


yea surprised I caught you? I mean if we only have one blue the JK, it's easy to fake claim another blue.


Why should we just have one blue?

What is the great theory you spoke of earlier btw.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 10:42 GMT
#1471
On October 02 2019 02:17 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 02:16 CopCake wrote:
Actually no, I clear no one. HF could be doing a masterpiece mafia move but it would be too insane.

GB could be trying to save a mate (Shockey) last phase but this theory is extremely paranoid too.

But if something I have learned here is that TL mafia rely more of killing “game solvers” people than making chess moves.

Either way Shockey is definetly mafia and needs to be lynched.

From the people alive that is not Shockey I do not trust Vivax. Branch sounds more natural. Tube is the same as BF.



You don't think my argument against Shockey is iron clad?

Anyway, no one should save HF tonight.


^^
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 10:43 GMT
#1472
On October 02 2019 07:04 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2019 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
It doesn't matter what the fuck my actions in the thread stipulate towards my role either. That just reinforces how excellently I played it.

You can quite literally flip tubesock and reveal my role. It's the easiest fucking self resolving thing this game and you're still incapable of following through with basic logic. That's what blows my mind and makes me think you're actually mafia still.

I'm just confirming whether mafia can block their own nk.


I'm not mafia.

There was no night kill and someone visited me. This is the most basic logic that YOU couldn't follow through as tracker. You decided that MEH I was mafia.

Anyway, I am less mad. Gonna be reasonable.

[b]##Unvote
##Vote: Tubesock[b]


If GB is mafia, one of the reasons is this vote. He was hard scumreading HF and this seems like a kneejerk reaction because he knew he was town and gave up on convincing others.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 12:49 GMT
#1473
To what do I owe the pleasure of the last two votes? Im in a dentists waiting room atm
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 16:12 GMT
#1547
Alright I'm done fiddling around for today.

GB could you explain why you turned around on your HF read and believed him so quickly, then voted tube?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 16:51 GMT
#1592
On October 04 2019 01:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 01:45 CopCake wrote:
On October 04 2019 01:44 Holyflare wrote:
I have scaling scum reads though.

Gb top

Tube

Vivax

Shockey


If we lynch GB and he flips town...

Are you ok with being the next lynch or would it be just a shit read?

If GB flips town who is the mafia by poe?


I am literally an unCCd blue. If you want to lynch me when I've done nothing but be towny then do whatever the fuck you want. He will not flip town.

Mafia are forced to kill me the next night if they don't tonight so it's literally the most self resolving thing in this game.


Nope they have to kill branch first.

I'd say that the only options on the table today are Tube and GB. Wouldn't be surprised if they were both mafia.

Shockeyy shows plenty of not-giving-a-fuckism to warrant being townleaned.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 17:04 GMT
#1604
If you look at it meta-wise, Tube is very motivated as town and once he gets going. This game his mood is down, he just sorts of lurk the thread making passive aggressive comments and occasionally loling.

GB in the meantime seems to have him as lock scum for HFs actions saying that if he isn't wifoming or omgusing, lynching Tube is the rational play. Yet somehow I'm his vote.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 17:04 GMT
#1605
Addendum: Once he gets going, he posts himself into a rage.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 17:10 GMT
#1611
That said, seems to fit into the picture that Tube being considered half dead, GB started bussing him, they push me both at the same time for reasons that would actually make sense if I weren't so busy lately.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
October 03 2019 17:11 GMT
#1613
On October 04 2019 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
It actually feels like 2 people are playing on her account even because this is a stark difference from her relatively townie rest of the game.


One of the posts from Cop actually looked like it came from rayn rofl. Wait I'll go find it.
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