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On September 30 2019 12:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 12:05 CopCake wrote:
Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DIE
Cause I can? All it means that if we lynch into town you’re more likely mafia. If we lynch into mafia then how can I be mafia by lynching my own teammate?
Now this is really circular logic. Lynching a townie does not make someone more likely mafia, only wrong. You could also quite easily bus and it's probably even encouraged in a 9 player mini.
I think I hate everything about this post.
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On September 30 2019 12:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 12:05 CopCake wrote:
Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DIE
Cause I can? All it means that if we lynch into town you’re more likely mafia. If we lynch into mafia then how can I be mafia by lynching my own teammate?
This is bad. It is your duty as town to lynch the most scummy, ughhhhhhh.
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@HF
I didn't realise Eywa didn't really believe in his points. I know he wrote he was mocking cases, but I didn't take it literally. I mean, he was scumreading Branch for reasons outside the game? I didn't see a post where he said that. I scumread him because I kept pushing him and he kept being evasive. I thought he was tunneled and that his tunnel was fake. That's an easy option for mafia IMO. Selecting a player, nitpicking his posts and keep being tunneled. So I thought he was mafia.
The thread wasn't moving on. There wasn't much to work with and he wasn't answering me. He just kept being sarcastic. I thought "Am I actually missing something?". Then I decided to re read the thread. What made me think Branch was mafia was the way he reacted to Eywa every time, and this read got stronger when he actually started posting only when I was pushing him too. It looked like he felt he was in danger and had to defend himself or he would get lynched.
I said that I could see why Eywa could be town because it appeared to me that he truly believed Branch slipped, and his reactions of being overly defensive and discrediting Eywa's ability to play the game was a strong indicative. I could see a townie so certain of his reads that every questioning of his reasons would be stupid.
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On September 30 2019 12:13 CopCake wrote:
GB talk to me, I like cute.
I'm here, will give you my reads in a second.
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On September 30 2019 12:14 Holyflare wrote:He just conceded?
I didn't, I was surprised by the post you brought. I said I was good because I clearly can emulate my town meta very well.
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@Cake
I don't really have strong town reads other than you. This town is not really trying to figure out the game, so it's hard for me to be comfortable calling people town.
To be fair, I have been reading holyflare and I think he is possibly town, and if he isn't, it will show up. Reasons why I think he is town: he's actively trying to solve the game, his reaction to posts seems genuine, and mostly, his post about quitting the game felt real. I don't think he would bother posting that as mafia.
I think you are town for the same reason: You look interested in solving the game. In a game where town isn't really interesting in pursuing information, mafia usually just stands by. And I think this is exactly the case.
I think Vivax may be mafia for meta reasons. I don't truly believe he is trying to solve the game, and his posts seem very robotic. Usually Vivax gets very paranoid. I don't know if his play changed.
Branch Is my strongest scum read for the reasons I've just said, and as a newbie that said he was "very excited" for the game to start, it seems he is not really invested in it. It sounds he is afraid to post, as a newbie mafia would do.
The others, I don't have a clue. I don't believe Shockeys posts, I don't understand why Tubesock is voting me, I don't have enought information from boxerfred now on day2. Am I missing someone?
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No I'm not.
So here's where I'm at:
CopCake
Holyflare
Tubesock
Shockey
Vivax
Branch
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On September 30 2019 12:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 12:05 CopCake wrote:
Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DIE
Cause I can? All it means that if we lynch into town you’re more likely mafia. If we lynch into mafia then how can I be mafia by lynching my own teammate?
This post + my case GB.
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HF what do you think of my case?
I wrote it specially for YOU.
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On September 30 2019 12:33 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 12:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:On September 30 2019 12:05 CopCake wrote:
Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DIE
Cause I can? All it means that if we lynch into town you’re more likely mafia. If we lynch into mafia then how can I be mafia by lynching my own teammate? This post + my case GB.
I'll check it now.
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On September 30 2019 07:00 CopCake wrote:HF I trust you will read this. Hello, my name is Shockey. I have lied several times during the game. Let's start with part 1 I think someone is mafia but I want another person to start the train. + Show Spoiler +On September 27 2019 01:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Can we vote Eywa? On September 27 2019 02:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
There it is, I’ll sheep GB this round. Eywa is all over the place in my eyes. Just trying to stick shit to the wall. Why do you need to Sheep GB if you think Eywa is mafia? If you have your read you stick to it until something better comes out. Why do you need to say that it is because of GB idea or something? If I am misreading please clarify. On September 27 2019 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You essentially ignored Branches question, I’m positive you couldn’t have missed it unless it was done on purpose and you actually have no reason and are trying to save your mafia partner?!? I explained several times that the reason I didn't want to vote Ewya is mostly because last game I was speechless with him reads, even if there was a good case against him he got the mafia right so I wanted to see more of that, it is like that rule of "never lynch a veteran", it happened also last game but suddenly in this game you can go against everyone. I also didn't read Branch as 100% mafia but didn't like his reaction on Ewya so between the two, I would rather see Branch dead. Can you blame me? I don't like disdain nor lack of effort. I would have loved to see Shockey lynched and that is why he was my first vote. On September 27 2019 02:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Branch.AUT (1): Eywa
Eywa (1): FreezingFoot
FecalFeast (0): FreezingFoot
Not Voting (7): FecalFeast, Vivax, CopCake, Tubesock, ShoCkeyy, Branch.AUT, Boxerfred
Branch.AUT is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes! The deadline is Friday, Sep 27 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in He indeed waited for someone else to start the train. When he said "why don't we vote ewya" was at: 11:10 during the 26th He voted for Ewya at: 8:43 pm on the 27th
+ Show Spoiler +On September 27 2019 11:56 ShoCkeyy wrote:Then there's also this: Lol... we haven't even got passed day one and Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eyes. I still think has a chance of being mafia. Soooo.... that's pretty quick to go from Null to Town. Just saying. He calls me mafia for saying that Ewya from no opinion needs to see more (null) to town. Then he says this: On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does.
Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well. On September 28 2019 00:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2019 23:15 CopCake wrote:On September 27 2019 23:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Literally Eywa has nothing on Branch, there's barely any substance to just consider him mafia in the amount of time he does. This is why I grill you on Eywa over GB, GB is currently doing his normal self, and everytime we lynched GB he always flops as town. That's definitely an easy read. I'm questioning you because literally Eywa has no substance in his case against Branch to consider him mafia by the time he does.
Then you come in with an extreme defense of "Ewya is unlynchable and town in your eye". I say Eywa is mafia than you, but if you keep defending him on lack of substance, might as well call you mafia as well. And a “magia Eywa” would just throw a randol name and expect people to follow him? That is his mafia game? I am basing my read on interactions, if he changes his personality because early game I didnt see it, then his normal self showed off in the way he answered GB with the random list dot org page. Not saying he is right on his read, if you see I havent voted because my mafia read is Vivax. I dont see the “fallacy” Could you please point me what makes Ewya mafia? A bad read? Early game? Trying to take the charge of town? When we have other two “Veterans” to yell at each other? I personally think calling people out for mafia on the first day is very mafiaesque . A normal town person like myself, would rather see discussion, than just straight finger pointing. Eywa was quick to point fingers at branch, and instantly push for a lynch.I don't think anybody else is yelling, I just think this constant push for branch who hasn't done much to warrant it in the beginning isn't normal town behavior. If you want to approve of it, then you neither are working with the town. So let's get this straight. Calling someone mafia the very first day is mafia, right? According to him. And going from Null to Town is also very mafia, right? This is HIS logic, am I correct? Then why isn't GB Mafia? Why doesn't he call out GB for changing his read from mafia to town to Ewya? On September 26 2019 07:21 FreezingFoot wrote:
The Great GB’S List of Early Reads (NOTE: VERY ACCURATE!!!1!)
boxerfred
FF
VIVAX
Eywax-
Got’em already! On September 27 2019 13:06 FreezingFoot wrote:
Ok, I've re-read the game and I think Eywa- is right about Branch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Branch.AUT What do you guys think of meta reads? Do you use them? I know you do, things like "Glowingbear is a good scum" has been said, stuff like "HF can pull this as mafia too", so if you know that someone tends to do certain thing as mafia you share that info to the class and scum hunt from that, right? + Show Spoiler + On September 28 2019 23:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Good night since it’s night phase. I think copcake or tube are mafia, change my mind. On September 29 2019 04:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 04:11 CopCake wrote:On September 27 2019 05:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You essentially ignored Branches question, I’m positive you couldn’t have missed it unless it was done on purpose and you actually have no reason and are trying to save your mafia partner?!? So tell me, now that you saw that Ewya flipped town, am I still mafia? Idk? It’s 50/50. You’re the scummiest so far in my reads however. Between you and Tube  I am forever his biggest scum read, always. And says he reads GB as town. On September 29 2019 04:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You seem upset I town read GB but not you, wonder why. Then he says this shit of Boxer On September 29 2019 04:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:
At least I’m posting? Lol... Boxer and Tube haven’t posted. And I’ve played on mafia team before with boxer and that’s his style as mafia. The no kill tonight was odd in general, problably afk, so I can assume that part of the mafia team is within the people that didn’t vote the first day. WHY THE FUCK AM I MORE MAFIA THAN BOXER? IF YOU KNOW BOXER META AS MAFIA? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!!!!!!!! WHY YOU NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE SO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT BOXER? WHY? On September 29 2019 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
I guess I shouldn't have returned. Only cake has even quoted something I've written and argued points with me. The rest of you just pointlessly comment and afk again and you enable mafia to just skate by doing nothing each and every game.
This will absolutely be my last game here. The pool has also gotten smaller. The more people involved, the more conversations, it's also the weekend, assuming everyone is busy like myself. Currently packing for a work trip. But either way, I'm around and always checking, and trying to at least phone post which isn't the best to use to debate. I think you asked me earlier what my town reads were and so far, Vivax seems like a good town read. I would also say yourself HF is a good town read. GB is like 60/40 for me while CopCake is 50/50 still. Where the hell is boxer there if GB is 60/40? one of your biggest town reads that you would sheep? the person you said you have played before and tends to end up as town? Why this sudden change of heart? And finally this post that is super bad overall. Show nested quote +On September 29 2019 04:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You don’t know how to read mister? I said part, for me that means probably the one person who’s mafia and not afk didn’t have discussion on who to kill resulting in the no kill. Or they aren’t afk and just playing the role of afk. Now mafia possibly gets another free town kill w.o having to do much because town will just yell at each other as it usually does. When the rules say clearly: Mafia cannot no shoot.Link to that part of the rules: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/551051-newbie-student-mafia-xxx#2MAFIA DID SEND A KILL. FOR GOD'S SAKE /end rant
I think the strongest point on your case is his double standards. I believe he said I'm a good scum player? If so, why would he believe I'm town in this game? Why is he changing his reads now? Why he didn't react to my eywa read earlier?
To be fair, this is only stronger if we get a Branch flip. If he flips mafia, an associative read fits this very well. Reading me as town permits him to vote the town wagon without putting himself in the line.
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I'm sure we should lynch Branch today. He seems the perfect "newbie mafia" player, and his flip would help a lot to figure out the game.
If anyone other than me, Cop and HF gets lynched today, I can't be really arsed since I didn't read anything really memorable from the other players.
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On September 30 2019 12:45 FreezingFoot wrote:
I'm sure we should lynch Branch today. He seems the perfect "newbie mafia" player, and his flip would help a lot to figure out the game.
If anyone other than me, Cop and HF gets lynched today, I can't be really arsed since I didn't read anything really memorable from the other players.
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are you kidding me?
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On September 30 2019 12:49 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 12:45 FreezingFoot wrote:
I'm sure we should lynch Branch today. He seems the perfect "newbie mafia" player, and his flip would help a lot to figure out the game.
If anyone other than me, Cop and HF gets lynched today, I can't be really arsed since I didn't read anything really memorable from the other players. ... are you kidding me? JHDGASHKFGJHJGHJLKHFKAJHRGRHTEGGFGSAJLLLLÑD
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Did you read what I wrote before?
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Cake, I'm here in case you want to discuss anything.
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On September 30 2019 12:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 12:05 CopCake wrote:
Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DIE
Cause I can? All it means that if we lynch into town you’re more likely mafia. If we lynch into mafia then how can I be mafia by lynching my own teammate?
How is this town GB?
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On September 30 2019 12:58 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2019 12:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:On September 30 2019 12:05 CopCake wrote:
Why would you sheep the read of your scummiest read?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I DIE
Cause I can? All it means that if we lynch into town you’re more likely mafia. If we lynch into mafia then how can I be mafia by lynching my own teammate? How is this town GB?
I think it's bad and I'm totally okay with a Shockey lynch. I'm just saying I'm way more confident with a Branch lynch, and that it would be more informative.
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Shockey, let me hear from you.
Are you sure copcake is mafia?
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On September 30 2019 13:01 FreezingFoot wrote:
Shockey, let me hear from you.
Are you sure copcake is mafia?
Also, what do you think of Branch?
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Ok, it seems nobody is here.
I agree with you that Shockey's post is bad. I could lynch him, and I trust you as town, cake. I'd rather lynch Branch, though.
I'm going to sleep now, I'll be back tomorrow and see how this is going.
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EPT
