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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:26 GMT
#476
On September 29 2019 06:25 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
"cop/gb are mafia because they ignore eywa's posts and have inconsistent reads based on what he's actually posting"
"hur hur hf's logic is really bad tonight he's probably mafia"
"oh eywa's vote for branch was for points BEFORE everything he said, that's dumb!"

fml


I am mafia now.

🤷🏽‍♀️


They're in quotes, my dear, meaning this is something that was said earlier.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:30 GMT
#479
On September 29 2019 05:31 FreezingFoot wrote:
I’m on a wedding and just skimmed a bit of the thread.

HF, how many times did we play together? 15? 20? You know how I play as town. You’re calling me scum because, in your opinion, there is no “logic” in my posts? LOL you alwaysd use this as a reason to town read me in the past.

It seems to me that you came to the game for the sole reason to discredit me. I don’t think you’re playing well. And when I think this, you’re always Mafia.

##Vote: Holyflare


On March 07 2015 23:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
you guys can hate on the read all you want but i'll stick to it and dig up more later, mark my words!


Doesn't sound like a mock case.

I've re read your filter. It's find to do a mock case and get discussion going.
The main problem here is: you had a mock case but all you did for more than 24 hours is pushing this mock case of yours.

I know how you play HF. And when you play as town you are aware of the whole game. You see a suspicious thing and point it out, you'll say how faulty a logic is. This time, you mainly ignore the rest of the thread (pushed me without giving thoughts on the reasons I've brought on Robik/does not have an opinion on Rayn until now/does not comment on Rayn's case on Kelsier) just to push a case that you truly don't agree.

Answer me this: did you think I was town at the moment you made the case?
What do you think of Rayn?
Why would my mom be higher in my list?


I actually only had to search "hf logic" by user glowingbear to find this gem. Definitely mafia :D


##vote glowingbear
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:31 GMT
#480
On September 29 2019 06:28 CopCake wrote:
I mean I dont know what you tried to say with that post.


don't worry about it just vote GB free maf
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:32 GMT
#481
On September 29 2019 06:27 Branch.AUT wrote:
HF why do you think im mafia?


because I'm starting to think cop is probably town and so the sum total of your filter is piggy backing shockeyy suspicion on cake and afking while saying you're here to contribute now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:34 GMT
#485
On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...]

GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible.
If you don't understand why, then i can't help you.


"WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out.

Pushing a townie is okay.

Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not.

This is a really shitty case GlowingBear.....


Tell me what's wrong with it

Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid).
If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead.
Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does....


Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it.

He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me.

My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments.


15. Glowingbear mafia vanilla lynched day 3


read the quote chain bahahahahaaha
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:34 GMT
#486
On September 29 2019 06:33 CopCake wrote:
Ah, so you truly think I am mafia with GB.

Interesting but I am tired of “clearing myself”.

I might as well stop to post, at this rate I consider it losing value time.



?????????????????????????????????????????????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:38 GMT
#489
+ Show Spoiler +
TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 21:42 GMT
#491
On September 29 2019 06:42 Branch.AUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 06:32 Holyflare wrote:
On September 29 2019 06:27 Branch.AUT wrote:
HF why do you think im mafia?


because I'm starting to think cop is probably town and so the sum total of your filter is piggy backing shockeyy suspicion on cake and afking while saying you're here to contribute now

I dont get what you mean in saying "piggy backing sbockeyy". All I did was point out that copcakes read of eywa flipped frrom "no clue, cant ever read" to "town" without anythinf happening in thread. That was weird to me


I literally wrote a giant wall of text about it dude. Please read the thread or pretend to have?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 22:04 GMT
#496
On September 29 2019 06:55 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 06:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...]

GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible.
If you don't understand why, then i can't help you.


"WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out.

Pushing a townie is okay.

Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not.

This is a really shitty case GlowingBear.....


Tell me what's wrong with it

Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid).
If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead.
Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does....


Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it.

He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me.

My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments.


15. Glowingbear mafia vanilla lynched day 3


read the quote chain bahahahahaaha


How that’s relevant?


you've done crap all today but say I'm mafia for pushing logic

there are two quote chains from when you were mafia where you push me saying all I do is push logic

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 22:06 GMT
#497
what exactly am I supposed to town read you on gb? your flip flop on eywa without actually knowing what he's saying? you voting branch and saying after eywa died that NOW you could see his (fabricated) points as being valid?

that's opportunistic as fuck, you used a flipped eywa's points that you argued for an entire day were circular logic to re-confirm that you were going to call branch mafia again and you have essentially done absolutely nothing after voting branch d1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 22:07 GMT
#498
let's just say I know I was protected and leave it at that eh?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 22:07 GMT
#499
On September 29 2019 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
TSVGBANKHBGBILTBSOM

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 22:16 GMT
#505
On September 29 2019 07:13 FreezingFoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
what exactly am I supposed to town read you on gb? your flip flop on eywa without actually knowing what he's saying? you voting branch and saying after eywa died that NOW you could see his (fabricated) points as being valid?

that's opportunistic as fuck, you used a flipped eywa's points that you argued for an entire day were circular logic to re-confirm that you were going to call branch mafia again and you have essentially done absolutely nothing after voting branch d1


WHY WOULD I DO THAT AS MAFIA?


because branch has said shit all

eywa dies and you conveniently say his circular logic points are now valid so you can lynch branch? the fuck do I know what your master plan is?

you use all these points to conveniently do nothing but type in capital letters and say I'm mafia when I've hinted that I can prove I was shot multiple times, essentially trying to get information on what happened to me

you afk and only return to make comments ever since I entered the game

not once have you commented on a single case that I've written this entire game other than one on yourself where you said nothing in response but instead you just ad hom me and say "oh he's playing bad with bad logic" but never explain it

you either became really really bad at this game or are obviously just mafia and I am much more inclined to think the latter

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 22:19 GMT
#506
there is 0 risk to your credibility in your mind because you didn't even know Eywa's points were fabricated AND you said you independently came to reasons that branch was mafia

this is really really bad lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 22:20 GMT
#507
I hope everyone is reading this :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 23:08 GMT
#510
On September 29 2019 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 07:13 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 29 2019 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
what exactly am I supposed to town read you on gb? your flip flop on eywa without actually knowing what he's saying? you voting branch and saying after eywa died that NOW you could see his (fabricated) points as being valid?

that's opportunistic as fuck, you used a flipped eywa's points that you argued for an entire day were circular logic to re-confirm that you were going to call branch mafia again and you have essentially done absolutely nothing after voting branch d1


WHY WOULD I DO THAT AS MAFIA?


because branch has said shit all

eywa dies and you conveniently say his circular logic points are now valid so you can lynch branch? the fuck do I know what your master plan is?

you use all these points to conveniently do nothing but type in capital letters and say I'm mafia when I've hinted that I can prove I was shot multiple times, essentially trying to get information on what happened to me

you afk and only return to make comments ever since I entered the game

not once have you commented on a single case that I've written this entire game other than one on yourself where you said nothing in response but instead you just ad hom me and say "oh he's playing bad with bad logic" but never explain it

you either became really really bad at this game or are obviously just mafia and I am much more inclined to think the latter



pretty self explanatory at this point

vote gb
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 28 2019 23:51 GMT
#511
I guess I shouldn't have returned. Only cake has even quoted something I've written and argued points with me. The rest of you just pointlessly comment and afk again and you enable mafia to just skate by doing nothing each and every game.

This will absolutely be my last game here.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 29 2019 01:10 GMT
#520
On September 29 2019 09:45 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 01:56 FreezingFoot wrote:
On September 26 2019 13:58 CopCake wrote:
Lets talk GB, since you seem town.

I have been playing once in a while, last two games were bad.


Alright, what do you wanna talk about?

On September 26 2019 19:36 Vivax wrote:
Im leaning mafia on BF for now. But Im aware that when little of value has been posted by others, I might just be paying too much attention to those who actually post.

On a reread, I found it strange that BF found it necessary to comment on nobody posting for six minutes, but mostly I found his reply to GB with the extra spaces forced. I dont see a townie reason for BF to be so distrustful within the first few posts.

GB so far looks like hes having fun so he can go to town pile. Hes a pretty good scum player but he tends to go full emo as mafia and fooled me with it in the past iirc.

FF feeling offended for the mod power thingy rubs me the wrong way too since I never suggested he actually did it. Mostly mentioned it because it was the reason I got to stare at his icon and see a pinocchio.


I had the exact opposite reaction to boxerfred's opening. I don't think FF's answer to you was alignment indicative.

Also, why are you townreading me and talking about me going full emo as scum? It seems that you're trying to justify a future shift of your read on me.

On September 26 2019 21:44 Eywa- wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:13 Branch.AUT wrote:
On September 26 2019 21:09 Eywa- wrote:
vote:Branch.AUT

If you guys are really nice, I might even give you his partner before I get night killed.

as usual, dead wrong

Also, the fact that he immediately is considering that I'm incorrectly voting instead of being mafia... Almost like he knows I'm town which he also has no reason to believe.


This feels like you decided he is mafia before finding the arguments to it. This "perfect information" argument isn't convincing.

On September 26 2019 22:08 Eywa- wrote:
On September 26 2019 22:01 Branch.AUT wrote:
Right, moving one from this waste of time now. Thanks for the entertaining trail of posts though, had a good laugh

Agreed, unfortunately you are being lynched today.

We should probably start discussing the day 2 lynch now. If Branch flips town, you should definitely be considering me as an option.

I have some ideas for who his partner is, but I'd like to give everyone the opportunity to play.


I'd rather hear you now. Could you please share who his partner is?

On September 26 2019 22:18 Branch.AUT wrote:
I like what boxerfred has pasted so far. He seems to be interested in the game and looking for contributions.
I have to disagree with his GB read though. Most of what GB posted so far seems to be chatting and everything outside the game. It does indeed seem ligh hearted, but well within the range of a good scum player as far as I am concerned.


I'm not a good scum player. I am an okay scum player. To be fair, it's not really hard to detect me when I'm scum. I was lynched almost every game I played as scum. The point is: as scum, I usually act as a support. When I flip, people get everything wrong. Which is great . But rest assured that I'm not scum in this game.
(And if I was, I wouldn't be telling you this)


On September 26 2019 23:33 Eywa- wrote:
It is amusing though that you interpret my shit posting as an attempt to flesh out a scum read. Branch is outed scum, I really don't have to make a case for it.


Yes, you do, and this tunnel seems very fabricated.
##Vote: Eywa-




So would you say GB is good or not? @Vivax @HF @Anyonewhohasplayedwithhiminthepast


You've played with him as mafia and you quoted his win rates before?

On September 28 2019 13:18 CopCake wrote:
Mafia Win Percentage (Minimum 7 games)
- Hide Spoiler -
Fecalfeast 7/7 = 100.0000%
GlowingBear 10/11 = 90.9091%

Ok, this is something.



Seems a bit artificial to ask this, of course he's good with a 10/11 win rate?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 29 2019 01:11 GMT
#521
I appreciate you looking into GB though, don't take this as a criticism.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 29 2019 02:33 GMT
#526
I'm here but should be asleep I guess. I don't know if I've been around when GB wins his mafia games, feels like I always catch him when he's mafia. Doesn't mean he's bad just that I have a solid read on him.

It's easy to catch him when you always call him mafia though :D
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