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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 14:39 GMT
#1887
On October 05 2019 06:48 Holyflare wrote:
It's a bit shit but I have ogi reasons to think vivax is probably town, that's why I didn't lynch him.


I have problems with thid during all the game, you know metas of almlst every player except me...

I feel not important!
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 14:41 GMT
#1889
On October 05 2019 06:48 Tubesock wrote:
And I don’t think Vivax is lazy town. I think it’s possible he is and that’s why I am voting HF because I’m positive you’re mafia. I have no problems voting Vivax. My problem voting Shockeyy is because you’re advocating it.




On October 05 2019 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I KNEW IT LOL

tubesock/shockey confirmed


It makes sense, you deffend Shockey way too much.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 14:43 GMT
#1890
On October 05 2019 06:55 Holyflare wrote:
Case:

  • Terrible reasons to scum read me today.
  • Made up a reason to push for my lynch, saying that why would mafia leave me alive when nobody could get their lynch.
  • Scum reads shockey, as well as most people in this game but said "Copcake can't get her lynch that's why you're unpredictable and alive so mafia" which is absolutely not true when most people scum read shockey today.
  • Says he scum read vivax yesterday as well as shockey.
  • Could have joined you with GB on shockey yesterday and you probably would have lynched him.
  • Vivax now could be lazy town.
  • Won't vote shockey even though he scum reads him :D :D for no reason other than I'm advocating for his lynch.
  • Calls me scummy for not lynching vivax for EXACTLY THE SAME REASONS AS HE WON'T LYNCH SHOCKEY
  • Has sat back in the shadows literally the entirety of the game until lylo where he's been the most active today consecutively today than he has in the entire game and it's literally to just push an agenda that is not critically thought out or reasoned. What is the scum read on me for other than I'm not dead when there's a flipped jk dead?



He joined the shockey train with GB and me.

He was also active when you said you trackdd him...
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 14:44 GMT
#1892
On October 05 2019 07:04 Tubesock wrote:
You’re misconstruing everything. The only accurate thing you said is it could be called nightkill wifom. The rest is bullshit.

And how can you say I’m hypocritical by saying you defended Vivax implying you’re mafia with him, and the only person you’re mafia with is Shockeyy? How does that logic worth. I’ve said many times it could be shockeyy or Vivax with you.

And it isn’t just nk wifom. I don’t believe there’s 2 blues in 9 player game. You also haven’t done anything mafia HF wouldn’t also be able to do. Your claim was far more elaborate than town HF would bother with. Mafia!HF needs an elaborate claim. You constantly claim I don’t buy for a second that town!HF would say “I had to make it elaborate so town would accept it”


I agree with this 💯
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 14:48 GMT
#1896
On October 05 2019 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
Tubesock shockey references:

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 28 2019 02:10 Tubesock wrote:
I’m probably voting Eywa. He’s the least towny of the two with votes. I do think Vivax and Shockeyy are townish too.


Town shockey.

On September 28 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
What do people think of CopCake?

I’m 180 on their reads. Not sure how someone can town Boxer, and don’t like the Vivax, Shockeyy, Branch team.


Doesn't like shockeyy in a scum team (because he town reads him)

On September 28 2019 02:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2019 02:31 CopCake wrote:
I mean Shockey feels fake as fuck about his “happiness” to see GB.

Do they have history or something?

I mean when I saw him the first thing that came to my mind was “ugh that dude who bussed his mafia partners to win” but since I am town I have to be impartial and he seems extremely laid back and towny, doing towny things without being too paranoid. Add the fact that he hasnt played in some time so seems like he is happy to get a role that doesnt make his ass work that much.


Why would mafia fake enthusiasm for GB’s return?


Defends shockey from an accusation from copcake.

On September 30 2019 01:01 Tubesock wrote:
Mafia probably Branch, Boxerfred, and Shockeyy.

None are moving the game forward. Everyone else seems to be trying.


Suddenly becomes mafia just for not moving the game forward. Notice all the other 2 were lurker towns, very easy to just throw a partner in.

On September 30 2019 01:12 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t mind Shockeyys attitude towards CopCake. So I’m down to Boxer and Branch.


Town again lol.

On September 30 2019 02:06 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 01:57 CopCake wrote:
Could someone please check Shockey and see the natural flow of his reads ~?



It seems natural towards you. I don’t see why he scumreads me over Boxerfred.


Nothingness.

On September 30 2019 02:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 09:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On September 29 2019 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
I guess I shouldn't have returned. Only cake has even quoted something I've written and argued points with me. The rest of you just pointlessly comment and afk again and you enable mafia to just skate by doing nothing each and every game.

This will absolutely be my last game here.



The pool has also gotten smaller. The more people involved, the more conversations, it's also the weekend, assuming everyone is busy like myself. Currently packing for a work trip. But either way, I'm around and always checking, and trying to at least phone post which isn't the best to use to debate.

I think you asked me earlier what my town reads were and so far,

Vivax seems like a good town read. I would also say yourself HF is a good town read. GB is like 60/40 for me while CopCake is 50/50 still.


What specifically makes Vivax a good town read?


Literally a question to shockey that gets no follow up or answer or response to.

On October 01 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
I still think it’s in Boxer, shockeyy, or Branch.


shockey mysteriously appears in the scum list again with nothing changed in between and has to be asked for reasoning

On October 01 2019 02:29 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2019 02:20 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 01 2019 02:16 Tubesock wrote:
I still think it’s in Boxer, shockeyy, or Branch.


Oh you already answered.

Could you reason your reads?


Some OMGUS, and how he pretty much only has me as his scumread but hasn’t done anything to push me or figure out my alignment at all. He simply omgus’ Copcake defensively and nothing else. He has t progressed the game forward in any way.

Branch is deliberately being uncooperative.


the reasoning is omgus and the same reason he mafia read him before but he was REMOVED from that mafia list so the non-progression of the game should have been counteracted previously by something shockey did, yet that was clearly forgotten here

On October 02 2019 07:54 Tubesock wrote:
I’m back.

I think GB is lock town, HF is tracker but I have no idea why he wouldn’t outright claim it, and Branch is jk.

So that leaves Cop, Vivax and Shockeyy. I’m pretty confident Cop is town. If HF is mafia, that was a kick ass play.



this is literally the same scum list most of the game and it was basically just lurkers (hint: town reads me here really hard, conveniently forgot about that didn't he?)

On October 03 2019 06:25 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 06:23 Branch.AUT wrote:
Copcake, what does it take for you to stop this immense tunnel on shockeyy?


Probably for Shockeyy to do something towny. So far he’s “uh I’m town yo!”

On October 03 2019 06:28 Tubesock wrote:
Hmm. If Shockeyy and HF were mafia, then I can see Shockeyy not voting to save himself.


Pointless conspiracy of something that would never in a million years happen. Don't think shockey was even around at deadline to vote to be honest (I checked and posted about it) but Tubesock doesn't do any research into this so throws it out as a tinfoil for no reason.

On October 03 2019 06:58 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2019 06:53 FreezingFoot wrote:
On October 03 2019 06:23 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t think GB is scum.

It is completely rational and logical to be skeptical of HF’s claim. I mean he’s HF. Plus, 2 blue roles in a 9 player game seems pretty unbalanced. Not impossible, but I think unlikely. If HF were mafia, he 100% would make some breadcrumb that’s unquestionable like this.

But would mafia!HF carry the kp N2? And why would mafiaHF prolong the game by voting Boxerfred? I don’t see mafia!HF doing that. So, I think this is town!HF.


1) Yes, especially after he claimed blue during night.

2) To gain towncred


He claims blue truthfully and falsely fairly often at night.

It could be for towncred, but I think he had plenty already and I don’t think it’s worth not killing 2 people with. Unless Shockeyy is mafia. Which I am warm too. If I move from Vivax it’ll be to Shockeyy.

On October 03 2019 07:04 Tubesock wrote:
Ok, but what do you think of Vivax?

##Unvote
##Vote: Shockeyy



Votes shockey for about 2.5 seconds before switching to vivax with nobody after shockey posted nothing but conspiracy.

On October 03 2019 07:41 Tubesock wrote:
Vivax is a better lynch.





Really very lacking, unexplained reads. The one explanation that is provided is omgus and shockey flips from town to mafia to town and back to mafia for no reasoning at one point. Tubesock's play this game can be summarised as textbook of what reads not to make as mafia. Omgus reads, a full on lurker scum list, why is this player not dead, not pushing game forward so mafia.

I do not think any read he has had this entire game is anything other than surface level drivel.



Good post and read.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 14:54 GMT
#1897
Tbh I understand Tubestock point of view, because I do also see it and to be fair... to allignate your set mind to cake is... dangerous if you are mafia because I am the easiest to get misslynched lol.

If he tried to buddy someone it would be vivax or you.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 14:58 GMT
#1899
Like there are so many fair points why you could be nafia

* saved shockey and win town cred
* lied with the breadcrumb. What if you died? People would have lynched tubestock...
* during the whole fucking game you were against GB... fought me, fought everyone to get your lynch.
* suddenly i am town? Since when? After the GB flip you called me mafia lol.

Only in one world you are mafia and that is with shockey, i told you several times lynch shockey so we can have a 100% clear HF but nope.

I can see tube not voting shockey so we wouldnt have a clear HF but do not deny that in the eyes of an ignorant town who has to be careful you look also scummy as fuck.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:09 GMT
#1901
Aghhhhhhhhhh
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:23 GMT
#1904
On October 07 2019 00:21 Holyflare wrote:
Think of it from tube's perspective. He scum reads hf/vivax/shockey.

The only person I could literally be mafia with is shockey otherwise it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense that I'd extend the cycle for 2 more cycles. Yet, he votes me and his excuse is nk wifom. The only way to confirm me possibly mafia is to lynch shockey who would quite easily get lynched since he's also scum read by everyone (especially you) but he doesn't do that at all.

Then you couple it with that post on Tube's read progression on shockey and how it doesn't make sense and it all adds up.


I am voting shockey

If you are mafia well played.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:24 GMT
#1905
And never lynching tube.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:32 GMT
#1908
On October 07 2019 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
Tomorrow is gonna suck if shockey is mafia :D


For who?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:32 GMT
#1909
On October 07 2019 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
Tomorrow is gonna suck if shockey is mafia :D


Like... “if”

You are not sure?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:37 GMT
#1912
On October 07 2019 00:35 Holyflare wrote:
No, of course I'm not sure lol? None of them post anything.


You are not sure shockey is mafia even if you think his posts are wtf?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:48 GMT
#1914
@tubestock

If you are there vote shockey
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 15:53 GMT
#1915
Omg for a moment I believed I posted in the wrong thread (voting)

HF if Tubestock doesnt come in an hr we vote him off, ok?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 16:29 GMT
#1924
On October 07 2019 01:27 Vivax wrote:
Voting Shockeyy feels like a massive dick move here, but on the other hand he can be mafia and we don't get a second chance.

I'd rather kill Tube though, after going a bit over Shockeyy, this post stroke me as townie:

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 11:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I just got to my hotel, going to eat dinner and then catch up on the thread, but in regards to at least the last page:

"WHY THE FUCK AM I MORE MAFIA THAN BOXER? IF YOU KNOW BOXER META AS MAFIA? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!!!!!!!! WHY YOU NEVER SAID THIS BEFORE SO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT BOXER? WHY?"

If boxer is currently mafia, then why do I have to go after boxer? I rather go after the mafia I don't know yet. Alright, who would you vote for aside from me that you think is the next mafia member? Cause I already know I'm not, and if you want me to prove you I'm not, I'll sheep you.

I haven't been caught up to the game as much, but I'm sure you are, and if we want to test this theory that you're not mafia or I'm not mafia, I'll sheep your second opinion. I already told you who my next two guesses are in mafia, Tube/Boxer, and I've given my reasons for them, but after remembering the early game, I think about GB's switch to Branch.

Eywa obviously was town, maybe GB is mafia since that switch to Branch was very uneasy for me. Gave the case of Eywa after I asked for a vote on him. Then Eywa makes a "case" on Branch, and GB easily switches. Idk if this was discussed or not, I have to re-read portions of the thread when I get a chance. I just wanted to at least show up really quick.



Then is HF + Tub

And no way in hell is HF and tube lol

Unless you think is Tube plus cane

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 16:29 GMT
#1925
Cake
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 16:31 GMT
#1926
Who is mafia vivax?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 16:36 GMT
#1930
On October 07 2019 01:33 Vivax wrote:
Maybe HF, maybe you, definitely not Shockey, and definitely Tube.


Why not shockey?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
October 06 2019 16:36 GMT
#1931
On October 07 2019 01:35 Vivax wrote:
I'm actually afraid of being right on Tube. Because if I am, it means I'll have to spend a cycle pushing HF and I'm expecting a hell of a week where having the obligation to play mafia while trying to make money from a market decline could deprive me of my last shred of sanity.


How would Hf be mafia?
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