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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 27 2019 00:24 GMT
#881
On July 27 2019 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 09:02 Holyflare wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuckkkk me I don't have a job anymore :D

fired? nice moretime for mafia


Last day!!! Pretttyyyy drunk
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 00:27 GMT
#882
On July 27 2019 09:02 Holyflare wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuckkkk me I don't have a job anymore :D

?!?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 00:29 GMT
#883
On July 27 2019 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
On July 27 2019 09:02 Holyflare wrote:
Fuuuuuuuuuckkkk me I don't have a job anymore :D

fired? nice moretime for mafia


Last day!!! Pretttyyyy drunk

Ah. Hope it’s celebratory and not...

Well, bad
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 00:30 GMT
#884
On July 27 2019 09:17 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 27 2019 08:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.

I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)

I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.

Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.

-wherebugsgo


NO ONE had solid reasons, please stop fooling yourself.

I read them all, they were all shit, and I knew it, soon you will know that too, ok?


Says the player who can’t even explain what read he has on HF or why despite claiming to know him intimately as a lawyer

And soon I will know it? What kind of empty threat is that LOL

-wherebugsgo

Empty threat?

Do you not know I lead the wagon? I will flip tomorrow. You’ll know that I’ve been genuine.

What other conclusion can you draw? I have never been good at explaining things. I’ve been good at being right sometimes though.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 00:49 GMT
#885
Wow, look who I just got a PM from:

Original Message From Chuiu:
Lol, I'm glad you guys are still playing this game. I had fun with it for a while but stopped playing when I became detached from visiting forum boards. I love that you guys are still using the banner I designed forever ago too.

Sorry I responded so late to this, as I said I no longer visit these forums. I only came back to reminisce a bit because iNcontrol passed away recently.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Chezinu:
You started. Now see your creation burn!

How does it feel to know that you influenced 10 years of my life by introducing me to mafia?


I sent him a PM during end of the world sign up.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 00:59 GMT
#886
Ok, trolls need to United and eliminate NoSmurfHere before troll lynching becomes a policy.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 27 2019 01:00 GMT
#887
Chezinu what do you say about celebrating your 10 years by being lynched in this game today?

We can celebrate 8 years for me while we’re at it

-wherebugsgo
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 27 2019 01:13 GMT
#888
On July 27 2019 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 09:17 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 27 2019 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 27 2019 08:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.

I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)

I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.

Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.

-wherebugsgo


NO ONE had solid reasons, please stop fooling yourself.

I read them all, they were all shit, and I knew it, soon you will know that too, ok?


Says the player who can’t even explain what read he has on HF or why despite claiming to know him intimately as a lawyer

And soon I will know it? What kind of empty threat is that LOL

-wherebugsgo

Empty threat?

Do you not know I lead the wagon? I will flip tomorrow. You’ll know that I’ve been genuine.

What other conclusion can you draw? I have never been good at explaining things. I’ve been good at being right sometimes though.


I mean, whatever you flip, the reasons for killing rayn will remain solid. [spoiler]He was useless and would have continued to be useless as he is every game. He flips coins to push lynches and claims he’s a god when he’s right and that he did absolutely nothing wrong when a townie flips despite being 100% certain on everything, like how certain he was that we are scum this game before we even posted. This is backed up by the fact that he has the most games by far on this forum with a decidedly mediocre record and that even with one other townie who knew his alignment he got 6 votes and died on day 1.

No matter how you slice it, someone like that who has 6 pages of filter day 1 but still manages to die is not worth keeping around to pollute the game and make it harder for others to play/enjoy. This is a team game, not an ego-stroking contest about who’s the most right about everything all the time (which rayn loses anyway) [spoiler]

If you are actually town, take your head out of your ass and try to provide real reasons for the reads you are posting in the thread because what you are doing right now is not working. If you want to be an asshole then you can get deleted from the game. And I’m saying that as someone who doesn’t have direct vote power this game and isn’t even voting you. If you give up as town minutes into d2 before even taking votes (which is what it looked like you did) just because you feel we lynched someone for the wrong reasons on d1 despite the fact that you can’t even articulate those reasons, AND you can’t articulate why we should listen to you now or even who you read as scum, then, well, idgaf what your alignment is and yes it is actually better for us to see you flip because several people other than myself already want you out of the game.

If you are town, I’m really actually trying to give you a sense for why people think you’re not. I trust that if you are actually town you’ll make an effort to listen to me and play the game.

And before tube says it, no, merely posting does not qualify as town play.

-wherebugsgo
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 01:24 GMT
#889
On July 27 2019 09:49 Chezinu wrote:
Wow, look who I just got a PM from:

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Chuiu:
Lol, I'm glad you guys are still playing this game. I had fun with it for a while but stopped playing when I became detached from visiting forum boards. I love that you guys are still using the banner I designed forever ago too.

Sorry I responded so late to this, as I said I no longer visit these forums. I only came back to reminisce a bit because iNcontrol passed away recently.

Original Message From Chezinu:
You started. Now see your creation burn!

How does it feel to know that you influenced 10 years of my life by introducing me to mafia?


I sent him a PM during end of the world sign up.

Lord alive, the man who invited Chezinu.

Lord Brown Izhu- can you remind me how to spell your full name?

Lord of the Brown, leader I have desired to follow, do you know who introduced me to mafia?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 01:25 GMT
#890
On July 27 2019 09:59 Chezinu wrote:
Ok, trolls need to United and eliminate NoSmurfHere before troll lynching becomes a policy.

But Chez I am lynching myself.

I have become the type of troll that no longer desires to continue...
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 01:30 GMT
#891
On July 24 2019 10:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gn <3

Happy birthday!!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 01:31 GMT
#892
On July 27 2019 10:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 09:59 Chezinu wrote:
Ok, trolls need to United and eliminate NoSmurfHere before troll lynching becomes a policy.

But Chez I am lynching myself.

I have become the type of troll that no longer desires to continue...

Save yourself!!!!

Chezinu never concedes!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 01:36 GMT
#893
On July 27 2019 10:13 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 09:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 27 2019 09:17 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 27 2019 08:27 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 27 2019 08:09 NoSmurfHere wrote:
I don’t think Pandain is a high value lynch today, I read all of his posts from the last few pages and he has quite a few good, original points.

I like in particular his call out of slam for not recognizing any rayn case, because as Pandain pointed out, several people voted rayn and almost everyone cited solid reasons to vote him. The only way slam could be as active as he is and not recognize this is if he is scum, has TMI, and is ignoring those reasons because he already knows rayn is town. Slam has reacted strangely like this to multiple events/players already, like his essentially reasonless HF read flipping (done it twice now)

I will admit that personally in my case wanting to kill rayn was mostly that rayn accomplished nothing in 6 pages of filter and attacked us before we even posted, and I didn’t feel like dealing with that garbage this game at all. I’ll kill the most anti-town player on day 1 every game if it makes the game easier to solve.

Anyway, at this rate if people are feeling conservative and don’t want to kill a higher activity player who seems quite scummy in slam, or someone like FF, I think Chezinu is a better choice than Pandain given that Pandain actually has some original thoughts that make sense.

-wherebugsgo


NO ONE had solid reasons, please stop fooling yourself.

I read them all, they were all shit, and I knew it, soon you will know that too, ok?


Says the player who can’t even explain what read he has on HF or why despite claiming to know him intimately as a lawyer

And soon I will know it? What kind of empty threat is that LOL

-wherebugsgo

Empty threat?

Do you not know I lead the wagon? I will flip tomorrow. You’ll know that I’ve been genuine.

What other conclusion can you draw? I have never been good at explaining things. I’ve been good at being right sometimes though.


I mean, whatever you flip, the reasons for killing rayn will remain solid. [spoiler]He was useless and would have continued to be useless as he is every game. He flips coins to push lynches and claims he’s a god when he’s right and that he did absolutely nothing wrong when a townie flips despite being 100% certain on everything, like how certain he was that we are scum this game before we even posted. This is backed up by the fact that he has the most games by far on this forum with a decidedly mediocre record and that even with one other townie who knew his alignment he got 6 votes and died on day 1.

No matter how you slice it, someone like that who has 6 pages of filter day 1 but still manages to die is not worth keeping around to pollute the game and make it harder for others to play/enjoy. This is a team game, not an ego-stroking contest about who’s the most right about everything all the time (which rayn loses anyway) [spoiler]

If you are actually town, take your head out of your ass and try to provide real reasons for the reads you are posting in the thread because what you are doing right now is not working. If you want to be an asshole then you can get deleted from the game. And I’m saying that as someone who doesn’t have direct vote power this game and isn’t even voting you. If you give up as town minutes into d2 before even taking votes (which is what it looked like you did) just because you feel we lynched someone for the wrong reasons on d1 despite the fact that you can’t even articulate those reasons, AND you can’t articulate why we should listen to you now or even who you read as scum, then, well, idgaf what your alignment is and yes it is actually better for us to see you flip because several people other than myself already want you out of the game.

If you are town, I’m really actually trying to give you a sense for why people think you’re not. I trust that if you are actually town you’ll make an effort to listen to me and play the game.

And before tube says it, no, merely posting does not qualify as town play.

-wherebugsgo

Actually I am sick of the group think.

If I fully articulated the reasons I know stuff I don’t think they’d be believed anyway. They are usually combinations of a lot of little things that I don’t immediately have total recall of.

Have you ever met a brilliant illiterate? Not that I am illiterate, but my mind has a totally different style of memory from most people on here. I am not a garbage trap mind, that has total recall of a lot of facts.
Nor am I a particularly deep thinker; if I were, I could meditate on my reads and eventually articulate them- if not beautifully and concisely so in fact.

What I am, is someone who can recognize patterns accurately even when I cannot describe them. My IQ scores were great! My actual general knowledge, isn’t so great! My ability to recognize that someone is being sarcastic is pure shit! But my ability to recognize when something is not right is pretty damn good, and recognizing someone’s family comes naturally to me.



So describing my reads sucks. I have a decidedly terrible record. So I agree?

Like my vote is where it is as of when I recognized what you are trying to tell me.



BUT HERE IS THE KICKER

I WAS RIGHT

I DIDNT KNOW WHY BUT I WAS DEAD CERTAIN.

WHEN I AM CERTAIN, I KNOW.

So if I am certain again, I want to at least leave the game something to go on before I go.

Tomorrow, I go to Malibu to take photos with my fiancé. I won’t be here for EOD. I may or may not move my vote before then but I doubt it.

Unfortunately at the moment I am not certain on anyone like I was certain on Rayn. I will try to be before I go but I can only do what I can, I am better at townreads than scum reads.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 01:38 GMT
#894
On July 27 2019 10:31 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 10:25 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 27 2019 09:59 Chezinu wrote:
Ok, trolls need to United and eliminate NoSmurfHere before troll lynching becomes a policy.

But Chez I am lynching myself.

I have become the type of troll that no longer desires to continue...

Save yourself!!!!

Chezinu never concedes!

But I must have certitude.

And I want to spend tomorrow with soon to be wifey; I don’t want mafia getting in the way of that.

In Cupid’s world, I have found my lover and want to be shot. She is not in this world, so I desire to pass to the next to be with her with all of myself.

But I will miss Chezinu! I will await his joining us in the beyond
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 27 2019 01:39 GMT
#895
We will invite him to coffee, we love coffee

Does Chez love coffee? Is it not a comfortable brown?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 27 2019 03:16 GMT
#896
Slam you’re talking to someone (me) who doesn’t actually believe that an individual being right in this game matters as much as a host of other things. You have an 80% chance of being right on any given townread. That’s high enough that psychologically speaking everyone will think their own townreads are great and when they get validated they’ll wonder why everyone else is crazy for not seeing what they do. Even being aware of this I fall into that trap all the time.

idgaf if you were right once, twice, or three times in a game. Many times the optimal play is to get rid of the least collaborative player regardless of their alignment because then people can actually pool their reads and work the puzzle out because even if that one person they deleted is a genius, if they’re a genius asshole no one was going to listen to them anyway.

You may dislike groupthink but this is literally a game that proves the power of groups that work collaboratively versus the futility of individuals who ultimately are more likely to overestimate their own abilities. If you cannot articulate your reasons for thinking things and convince others then for all intents and purposes you may as well be flipping coins. None of the rest of us can tell any difference and none of your posts establish to us that you’re worth paying attention to.

Think about all the best town players on this forum. Foolishness, Radfield, kita, sandroba, syllogism, marv (when he wasn’t burned out like me and being a dick hahaha). All of these players have good reads, yes, but they work very well with others, and almost never get lynched, because they are genuinely collaborative. Compare to people who probably have good reads about as often but are terrible collaborators and you’ll see the stark difference in team outcomes.

-wherebugsgo
The following statement is true. The previous statement is false.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 03:20 GMT
#897
On July 27 2019 10:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 09:49 Chezinu wrote:
Wow, look who I just got a PM from:

Original Message From Chuiu:
Lol, I'm glad you guys are still playing this game. I had fun with it for a while but stopped playing when I became detached from visiting forum boards. I love that you guys are still using the banner I designed forever ago too.

Sorry I responded so late to this, as I said I no longer visit these forums. I only came back to reminisce a bit because iNcontrol passed away recently.

Original Message From Chezinu:
You started. Now see your creation burn!

How does it feel to know that you influenced 10 years of my life by introducing me to mafia?


I sent him a PM during end of the world sign up.

Lord alive, the man who invited Chezinu.

Lord Brown Izhu- can you remind me how to spell your full name?

Lord of the Brown, leader I have desired to follow, do you know who introduced me to mafia?


Who?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 03:24 GMT
#898
On July 27 2019 10:39 Alakaslam wrote:
We will invite him to coffee, we love coffee

Does Chez love coffee? Is it not a comfortable brown?

Strangely enough, the chez doesn't drink coffee.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 03:27 GMT
#899
On July 27 2019 12:16 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Slam you’re talking to someone (me) who doesn’t actually believe that an individual being right in this game matters as much as a host of other things. You have an 80% chance of being right on any given townread. That’s high enough that psychologically speaking everyone will think their own townreads are great and when they get validated they’ll wonder why everyone else is crazy for not seeing what they do. Even being aware of this I fall into that trap all the time.

idgaf if you were right once, twice, or three times in a game. Many times the optimal play is to get rid of the least collaborative player regardless of their alignment because then people can actually pool their reads and work the puzzle out because even if that one person they deleted is a genius, if they’re a genius asshole no one was going to listen to them anyway.

You may dislike groupthink but this is literally a game that proves the power of groups that work collaboratively versus the futility of individuals who ultimately are more likely to overestimate their own abilities. If you cannot articulate your reasons for thinking things and convince others then for all intents and purposes you may as well be flipping coins. None of the rest of us can tell any difference and none of your posts establish to us that you’re worth paying attention to.

Think about all the best town players on this forum. Foolishness, Radfield, kita, sandroba, syllogism, marv (when he wasn’t burned out like me and being a dick hahaha). All of these players have good reads, yes, but they work very well with others, and almost never get lynched, because they are genuinely collaborative. Compare to people who probably have good reads about as often but are terrible collaborators and you’ll see the stark difference in team outcomes.

-wherebugsgo



Dont be concern about his opinions, slam. I understand about knowing things and not being able to articulate. However, I find it much easier to collaborate with you slam than where the bugs go.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 27 2019 03:28 GMT
#900
His list of best town players and my list of best town players are totally different.. he didnt even have Ver or BC in his list...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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