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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
The mafia night kills were a bit bad though because on that day 4 their plan was really obvious. Their night kill of you worked perfectly though. Eversince fell right for it picking up pandain's accusation that he aimed at us and it really made me think she was scum. If that was the mafia plan it was pretty nicely done. -J | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
10 posts/RL day between 2 people, easy. You don't even have to put anything interesting, just notes. If I'd somehow left clues in there then yeah I can understand it being cheating but I didn't. Next time that's something that should be addressed before the game starts. -J | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Gg wp all | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On August 06 2019 05:25 NoSmurfHere wrote: RE: paraphrasing the QT -- I wouldn't have done it if i thought people would think it was cheating. I just assume that if we were mafia we would want a QT we could paraphrase from so its NAI. 10 posts/RL day between 2 people, easy. You don't even have to put anything interesting, just notes. If I'd somehow left clues in there then yeah I can understand it being cheating but I didn't. Next time that's something that should be addressed before the game starts. -J Yeah it's definitely something I should have thought about. It seemed like from the obs most people think that it should be fair game. | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
 Sorry for continually posting with my jock account and forgetting to sign posts. AND THEY SAY WEED DOESN'T MELT YOUR BRAIN. -J | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Really enjoyed the game Also sorry if I was a bit too harsh on anyone, within the game I of course have strong opinions. Please don’t take anything I say personally and do let me know if I’m being too much of an asshole. Some random thoughts: + Show Spoiler + I have pretty much no regrets this game, the only thing I would change is that I should have leaned much much harder on MZ and Pandain because I gave both players huge passes when they didn’t deserve them, especially day 1. If I had the time or the energy I would have probably tried to derail the Chezinu lynch. I think it would’ve ultimately made no difference though because first 3 cycles was TvT every single time. At LYLO if you are a townie (ahem Eversince) please do not hold your vote till the last moment. idgaf if that’s how you play normally because you are literally signaling that you are either scum or are going to waste your vote and consolidate on whatever wagon that appears which means you are essentially useless for the cycle. This is especially the case because holding your vote for so long is not inclusive, it is not cooperative, and it is an incredibly selfish play; it does not consider the perspectives of the other townies who are trying to figure out your alignment. Your vote is more important than your voice. As an example, if I were solo playing this game, in LYLO I would not be around for the 6-7 hours before deadline because it’s at 5 am. I am only here now because my flight arrived 30 minutes ago and I’m waiting on a bus. In that situation, if a player says they’re going to hold their vote till the end there’s absolutely nothing I can do except park my vote earlier in the day and hope I am right. I am forced to lead on my best scum read (aka I’m now forced to play selfishly too) rather than cooperatively work out what’s best for the entire faction. I believe this applies not just in LYLO but on other days too. Had we started cooperating earlier this game would have been a lot easier. For instance, Koshi’s points on Eywa were all really good. Had we been able to start on that path one cycle earlier it wouldn’t have mattered if ES was low on time, not really understanding what was going on (mixing up day 2 and day 4? Lol) etc. Not being cooperative is also 100% the reason town lynched both rayn and FF, IMO. I think it’s also quite telling that Jock and I took a lot of flak for these lynches even though in the end I don’t believe we really swung them much at all. Our vote on rayn wasn’t even consequential, for instance. -wherebugsgo | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
I’d quote it/paraphrase far more often too. And I’d probably coach Jock much harder rather than letting him basically do his thing and control the vote. As scum for instance I most definitely would not have let Jock cave to HF’s threat. Instead I probably would’ve just turned that wagon on HF. -wherebugsgo | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
On August 06 2019 05:10 Branch.AUT wrote: GG everybody. @scum how did you kill me over confirmed hydra last night? I killed you because I wanted the status quo on the final day, I thought the best way of keeping the lynch on Eversince was to kill you. | ||
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
I didn’t think both MZ and Eywa- could have been mafia. Although maybe possible if I put together that Eywa scummed MZ on his very first post but I doubt it. No Smurf, why do you two think I would just sheep rayns read all game? Did you really mean that? Aside from him I believed you were scum because of all the attention on the masons partner which I didn’t think a Towne would actually care about. And I never liked the “if I were scum I’d never...” stuff. Although after the chat summaries I did think you were town. Side note, this was the first time I’ve been night killed because I was blue. Lol | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On August 06 2019 06:03 Eywa- wrote: The scum team was not really in agreement for the night where we got 2 kills, so that's something we were able to utilize to our advantage, I was never killing HF and Slam there. I really wanted the Hydra alive and of course that backfired on me because they immediately figured out what was going on. D1 I tried to instigate a little chaos between hf and rayn and got burned for it bc I'm bad at actually manipulating people as scum. After my D1 debacle I just played D2 and 3 as if I was town and tried to find the people who I would have voted for if I hadn't known who the real team was. It actually worked out ok for me and a lot of people at least sorta townread me. I honestly probably would have pushed Koshi or branch had I been town too. Of course the night kills slowly tore apart the associations I was making and it became harder not to push the scum. I was basically caught with my pants down because my reads never changed. If I had tried to blend in on the eversince push D4, I might have lived. However that was legit one of the worst pushes I've seen recently and I probably would have been mislynched as town anyway because I still would have pushed Branch. His play at both EoDs was pretty rough around the edges and I would have assumed it was new scum. My hard defense of eversince ended up kinda working in the team's favor but it still killed me that people wanted to lynch her over branch or koshi. As an aside, townies owe it to themselves to not appear scummy. Had koshi been more involved from the start idk if scum wins like that. So there you have it, after 9 years of mafia I'm still trash as scum but at least I finally got a win. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/8G6N4qBiTv58 | ||
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Vivax
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On August 06 2019 05:19 NoSmurfHere wrote: We should have won. I posted in Bugs and my QT about half hour before the end that the silence in the thread was making me think it was a mislynch, but i didn't have the balls to change the vote at the end in case i was wrong haha. You should play here more often though, and panic less at end of day cos i was fully convinced you were mafia at that point... Also I wouldn't be the newbie anymore I hope I'm scum next time, I'm a much better scum player i think. Playing hydra is awesome. -J Thanks. I might. Concerning eod, what i wrote was true. Tried to read 8 pages in 10 minutes, didnt even finish 5 of them, threw my vote on highest wagon. To me it seemed logical. Sheep majority | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On August 06 2019 06:03 Eywa- wrote: The scum team was not really in agreement for the night where we got 2 kills, so that's something we were able to utilize to our advantage, I was never killing HF and Slam there. I was genuinely surprised at slam. He didnt do a lot previously | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
On August 06 2019 05:22 Pandain wrote: Great play Branch as well. Thanks | ||
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Eversince
Philippines2301 Posts
Sorry guys for giving up at the end. I knew I wasn't going to have time to defend myself and even if I was not lynched I just would of been '?' entire game anyway. So I made executive choice to just take the ML. I wasn't planning on being anywhere as close to as busy as I turned out being so my play this game was basically just trash all around  .. | ||
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