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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 09:02 GMT
#329
Grack I can't see a situation where Eywa buses both mafia partners in one of their only 4 posts so far. You really think that's feasible?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 12:18 GMT
#346
Eversince I don't think you're going to be able to win people over to a Pandain vote today.
We don't have long until deadline so I think we should organize something maybe and try to consolidate votes.

I think grack is a good option but I would definitely go for either slam or kels also.
I think only one of grack or kels is likely to be mafia so it would make sense in my opinion to go for one of those.

With Grack its not just his claim, its the way he followed everyone into scumreading kels and then followed everyone into scumreading shapelog.

Kels is worse though. I'm looking back at his filter now and there's just nothing there. Lots of posts and an argument with myself, but no real reads except two posts that he didn't like, one of which he immediately went back on.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 13:38 GMT
#357
I might not have much more time in the thread before deadline so I'm changing my vote to kelsier again. Grack is at least trying, and the stuff that makes me think he's scum isn't definite. Keslier has been really lame, just half a read s'all we've had from him. Also I don't think there's any support for a grack lynch and I don't think there will be.
Kelsier if you come back later when I'm not here and wow everyone with your reads, sorry dude. Otherwise, die scum.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 13:48 GMT
#359
I'm just not convinced enough rayn. I thought kelsier was going to give us more than he did but no, all he has done was argue a bit and point out two posts that he didn't like. That's rubbish.
Shapelog doesn't look good but doesn't look bad enough for a day 1 lynch imo, just kinda meh.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 16:13 GMT
#407
On June 26 2019 00:32 Pandain wrote:
#summonJock

I know he would vote grack


I'm here now.
I'll be reading along with this until probably an hour before deadline then I've got band practice.
I'm leaving my vote where it is right now. Let's see where everything's at in a couple of hours.

Grack is in my top 2 for sure.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 16:14 GMT
#409
Wait hf why are you voting grack if rayn is your number one big case scumread?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 16:42 GMT
#423
Despite the fact that he's been nearly universally read as mafia/null, I'd perfectly well accept that no-one wants to vote for Kiesler if someone could point me at a townie post of his.
He's been here, so its not like he hasn't had the opportunity.
I also find it a bit concerning when at least 4 people scumread a guy and no-one votes for them. It means they can't lose.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 16:50 GMT
#426
On June 26 2019 01:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 01:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Despite the fact that he's been nearly universally read as mafia/null, I'd perfectly well accept that no-one wants to vote for Kiesler if someone could point me at a townie post of his.
He's been here, so its not like he hasn't had the opportunity.
I also find it a bit concerning when at least 4 people scumread a guy and no-one votes for them. It means they can't lose.

There was all kinds of agreement with Rayn's post on Shapelog and no traction for his lynch.


There was a bit. Not actually a huge amount. iirc only 1 person actually scumread shapelog off the back of that case/said it was a good case.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 16:52 GMT
#428
On June 26 2019 01:51 Pandain wrote:
Jock I am town reading you so damn much. Well played if scum


Nah i'm town it just means my town game is improving. Normally by now I'm fighting a lynch haha.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 16:55 GMT
#430
On June 26 2019 01:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 26 2019 01:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 26 2019 01:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
Despite the fact that he's been nearly universally read as mafia/null, I'd perfectly well accept that no-one wants to vote for Kiesler if someone could point me at a townie post of his.
He's been here, so its not like he hasn't had the opportunity.
I also find it a bit concerning when at least 4 people scumread a guy and no-one votes for them. It means they can't lose.

There was all kinds of agreement with Rayn's post on Shapelog and no traction for his lynch.


There was a bit. Not actually a huge amount. iirc only 1 person actually scumread shapelog off the back of that case/said it was a good case.

You/Eversince/Trfel.


This is not any kind of agreement:

I don't think its a slam dunk but its definitely an interesting case. I can see a situation where someone doesn't apply a way of thinking that they are capable of, without having mafia motivations.

That said, I don't really like shapelog's posting in general. Sort of pressured ES a little bit then dropped it, made that post about trfel and then went back on it later while still leaving room to go back to the suspicion if needed.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 17:00 GMT
#436
That's not me agreeing with his case. Its also not me saying i wouldn't vote for shapelog, its not even a hard scumread on shapelog, just a suspicion.

I can see your point though.

Interestingly neither shapelog nor KSC have defended themselves because they don't have to because they aren't in danger despite being scumread.
Don't you find that suspicious?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 17:01 GMT
#437
On June 26 2019 01:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Nothing's changed with Shapelog.


Yeah but other things have changed in the game. KSC stopped posting, for one. Do you only look at one single player before you decide who to vote for or are you being annoying for the sake of it?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 18:18 GMT
#449
I'm staying on ksc. The grack wagon is dying on its arse pandain sorry. Come and join me.
I'm leaving in a bit won't be back till well after deadline.
Enjoy the lynching. Take a photo for me.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 22:03 GMT
#629
Fantastic job. I just read through the thread no spoilers and it was an emotional rollercoaster.
Well played.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 22:07 GMT
#631
On June 26 2019 07:03 Eversince wrote:
Opinions Jock?


Everything since night one started I need to reread. I'm terrible at analyzing mechanical stuff for some reason so the whole thing about roles I just haven't got my head around yet.

Pandain def looks bad for the last couple of hours but I don't think anything has changed too much about my reads. I still like at least one of Grack and KSC for mafia.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 22:08 GMT
#634
I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 22:11 GMT
#637
On June 26 2019 07:08 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:03 Eversince wrote:
Opinions Jock?


Everything since night one started I need to reread. I'm terrible at analyzing mechanical stuff for some reason so the whole thing about roles I just haven't got my head around yet.

Pandain def looks bad for the last couple of hours but I don't think anything has changed too much about my reads. I still like at least one of Grack and KSC for mafia.


Fair. I'm a really slow English reader myself. How long before you can make thoughts?


Is there something specific you wanted my thoughts on? Right now my thoughts are "I can't believe slam was mafia." I'll be here a while chatting though so anything you think I should look at just let me know and I'll try and summon an opinion.

(I've been at band practice after work so I'm fucking shattered - Complex logic isn't going to happen)
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 22:13 GMT
#640
On June 26 2019 07:10 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
I also wish hf would stop prodding rayn. I think he's trying to get him to go off the rails like he sometimes does early on.


I already knew Rayn could get haywire. I made a post about it already. We'll see if it happens


Here's my version of hf's thought process:

"Shit everyone knows i'm town I can't fake claim or act anti-town so how can I have fun? OH RAYN'S PLAYING"
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 22:14 GMT
#641
On June 26 2019 07:13 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2019 07:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:08 Eversince wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 26 2019 07:03 Eversince wrote:
Opinions Jock?


Everything since night one started I need to reread. I'm terrible at analyzing mechanical stuff for some reason so the whole thing about roles I just haven't got my head around yet.

Pandain def looks bad for the last couple of hours but I don't think anything has changed too much about my reads. I still like at least one of Grack and KSC for mafia.


Fair. I'm a really slow English reader myself. How long before you can make thoughts?


Is there something specific you wanted my thoughts on? Right now my thoughts are "I can't believe slam was mafia." I'll be here a while chatting though so anything you think I should look at just let me know and I'll try and summon an opinion.

(I've been at band practice after work so I'm fucking shattered - Complex logic isn't going to happen)



Just a general pile of reads. I think your town I just want your thoughts on everything here since you're here.
Don't bother formatting if you don't feel like doing it.


This is a good point I haven't made any kind of comprehensive reads list yet at all. I'll get on it now,give me 20 minutes.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9713 Posts
June 25 2019 22:26 GMT
#650
Town:
ES - I've gone back and forth on this but the slam lynch wins you conftown, gratz
HF - Town
Trfel - Killed slam

Town lean
Rayn - I completely disagree with the motivation hf has attributed to his posting, although I think he's wrong about some reads.
Pandain - He's pushing for the same lynches as me and surely no-one would be stupid enough to overtly try and stop a slam lynch right near end of day as mafia.... surely, right?

Null

Shapelog - Could well be mafia.I haven't seen anything that specifically suggests scum though.

Scum lean

Eywa - Has improved lately but still an annoying of throwing reads out randomly and leaving them unexplained which distracts people, so anti-town or mafia.

Scum:ONE OR MORE OF
KSC: No good posts at all. The posts he has made he either immediately goes back on (the trfel thing early on) or doubles down on a stupid misreading and then does nothing else but argue about that. Make some reads dude.

Grack: Stupid time to claim, don't like his read progression (it seems forced/unnatural).

I think I'm going to try and write a case next.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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