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On May 26 2019 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Agree. Lots of blendy "oh I already did all this already" scummy posts. Maybe I just think he's mafia and I see what I want to see, but he didn't seem particularly townie while he was here.
at what point do we excuse Artanis' points on lack of time vs. flailing mafia? I think a lot of people want to SEE a great player in Artanis, but it's just not coming (I don't think I ever played with Artanis, so not sure. I usually believe the vets when they say X is a good player though)
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this might be OMGUS but I'm really not feeling people not named rayn trying to shade me for being scum. I'm going to stick on this wagon. I'll be back later nearer EoD hopefully
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why am I lynching iGrok over Artanis
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On May 26 2019 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 01:06 Conversion wrote:ok read HF's case. cool case. On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it one thing that I don't like about iGrok is that he shows that he has thoughts about the game outside of Calix/HF. right there. Artanis is his lowest read, outside of them. He later admits that the HF lynch won't happen, but he still ends up voting HF. weird. now this day, Artanis has a pretty good momentum going for him, and he mentioned that since he knows he's 100% town, he'll vote people to save himself. But he keeps staying on HF??? Why isn't he spending time to case someone else and tunnels onto HF like it's going to get him anywhere, when he says in his filter himself that lynching HF won't get anywhere. why does he think it's going to get him anywhere now? igrok has posted reads list since then what's your conclusion on him now?
We seem to see the game in a similar way, from taking a glance at his reads. why aren't you lynching Artanis?
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On May 26 2019 04:02 Calix wrote:Because Artanis actually tried solving the game while he was around while iGrok just posted nonsense. Why do you scum-read Artanis THIS much over iGrok? I really want to understand, Conversion, so work with me here.
because Artanis spending like 20 minutes of his 2 hours playing reminiscing about a game and posting old MS Paint pictures, while entertaining, is not trying to solve the game. Also he's brought nothing new to the table.
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Also I have very icky feelings about him and disformation talking about how I'm scum all of a sudden, and I'm pretty sure both are on iGrok. Rayn I understand (and he's on neither iirc)
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On May 26 2019 04:07 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 04:03 Conversion wrote:On May 26 2019 04:02 Calix wrote:On May 26 2019 04:00 Conversion wrote:
why am I lynching iGrok over Artanis Because Artanis actually tried solving the game while he was around while iGrok just posted nonsense. Why do you scum-read Artanis THIS much over iGrok? I really want to understand, Conversion, so work with me here. because Artanis spending like 20 minutes of his 2 hours playing reminiscing about a game and posting old MS Paint pictures, while entertaining, is not trying to solve the game. Also he's brought nothing new to the table. While it is true that Artanis posted some nostalgic crap, iGrok has done nothing BUT make useless posts whereas Artanis actually made attempts at game-solving re: asking questions and considering other people's points [e.g., with WBG]. iGrok has shit-posted and barely made ANY game-related posts in comparison. Page 6 of iGrok's filter = pretty much everything he's done today.
idk we can agree to disagree here I think Artanis is giving the illusion of ~~playing the game~~ his entire read progression on me was REALLY icky, it did not feel natural at all. it might boil down to just that edging Artanis > iGrok for me here.
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what in the actual fuck is this game??
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On May 26 2019 04:09 Holyflare wrote:I think I gave a gun to mafia 
On May 26 2019 04:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##shoot Calix
??????????
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On May 26 2019 06:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jesus flying fuck at this game. If anyone wonders why I have more or less vanished from the game it is seriously the last 25 pages or so of shit, like holy fuck. THIS game is a very clear reason of many issues I had which led me to quit playing Mafia. Like this is a shit show. Anyone at this point has a logical reason to just not want to play, regardless of alignment. Because its the most ridiculous thing in the world to read full of vitrol and hate.
Lets pretend for even 1 moment that HF's claim (which he redacted) is real. Why would any of you think that Bugs would ever listen to you guys when he has a gun? As mafia he just shoots who he wants. He would only shoot the other wagon if it was going to kill another townie. Otherwise he shoots a "scum" read or some shit. As town, when he thinks 90% of you are shitters he will just shoot who he wants.
Now heres the thing, HE HAS ALREADY CLAIMED PR. He didn't claim what he has, he just claimed he was one. Now, that means if he isn't CCing that he is
A) A vig, which can be either of alignment
B) he is the jailkeeper who thinks hes the reason KP was blocked last night was him
C) Hes a lying mafia asshat who is scared shitless of a confirmed town.
NOW, speaking of confirmed town. Say for some flying fuck wild ride that Koshi is legit a Veteran and stopped a shot. Who the fuck would shoot him? Like seriously. No one has even remotely considered who in their right might shoots Koshi. The guy literally has bare bones reasons to his reads, in some case he has no reasons and just posts / parrots other people. He spams the thread, is widely ignored, but is essentially helping mafia. Why do they shoot him? Only someone who actually thought he was threatening that no one else was. You guys can go read that if you want. Why do I say this? Because the "vet" players in this game are 100% more likely to shoot Koshi as vigi's over being mafia.
Like the sheer level of dumb in this thread. (Me included, im not saying im not guilty of it).
People are being given a free pass for tons of shit.
Rayn - acting like a troll day 1, fake claims, gets out of a "lynch" becomes non entity.
Conversion - where the fuck is he. He is such a non entity that he more or less appears, says a few things of basically nothing, mimics sentiment or defends himself and vanishes
Disinformaion - Literally this games defiinition of a parrot. He has basically 0 thoughts that are his own, spews out other peoples cases to justify his own shit, asks questions, then pisses off with nothing new. In fact he constantly brings up shit the thread has moved past to re clutter it with the same debates.
Jock - Where the fuck is he. Outside of day 1, what has he done, where is he, why should I care about him. He is such a non entity with everything going on I barely ever remember hes in this game.
VE - You argue and fight everything. You are extremely combative this game and part of the reason I can't tell between you and bugs who should die to clean the thread. I purposely and reading you both as town so I can skim posts now. you both are responsible for half the stuff that makes the thread so terrible. STOP FIGHTING WITH EACHOTHER and spending pages upon pages upon pages burying everything else.
HF - You are being productive now but you werent for ages. I had more but you have started to actually well play. Long as you keep it up your general laziness / apathy day 1 can be ignored.
Igrok - You don't know why you are up for the lynch? You have been basically for the last 72 hours. It was you or Artanis. Not sure how you can appear and disappear as frequently as you do and not even know where the thread sentiment / votes are. However, this is a case (as much as everyone will call me terrible for it) of why you are likely dumb town and not scum.
Artanis and Calix are literally non stop talked about, and so am I. I know my filter is full of shit so feel free to kill me for it. Youd be doing me a favour.
no offense dude, but you flaming people for being "non-entities" when you're around for less than 40% of the game just makes you look like an ass.
Also literally no one is talking about Calix besides rayn, and the reason why iGrok vs Artanis is happening is because they're the two leading wagons. One of which you have gone off the rails to call scum based on one meta read.
So calm your god damn mind down and lynch scum Artanis. What is it with you veterans and your fucking egos in flaming players, and then saying this is the reason why you stopped playing? You realize you're part of the problem by acting like an entitled dickwad and making a giant post flaming the entire game?
The irony.
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On May 26 2019 06:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
Conversion he's either doing the BC scumpost thing because he hasn't given us an obvious enough scumtell yet or trying to get a reaction.
It looks ridiculous if you read it though lol.
WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING SO MUCH AND WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T POSTING NOT POSTING AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MAFIA ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
so fucking bad..
On May 25 2019 20:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
I
LITERALLY ARTANIS one of his mafia reads why is he getting so angry??????
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On May 26 2019 06:10 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Calix
You can all fuck off. Artanis is maybe mafia but Calix is 1000% mafia.
Maybe hf is also mafia. Maybe he would shoot me Indont care.
Fuck you all for lynching iGrok.
❤iGrok
Why are you getting off your possible SCUM READ to someone who most likely won't be lynched today????? save iGrok by convincing people to lynch Artanis
please
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On May 26 2019 06:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 06:10 Conversion wrote:On May 26 2019 06:08 Jockmcplop wrote:
Conversion he's either doing the BC scumpost thing because he hasn't given us an obvious enough scumtell yet or trying to get a reaction.
It looks ridiculous if you read it though lol.
WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING SO MUCH AND WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T POSTING NOT POSTING AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MAFIA ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH so fucking bad.. On May 25 2019 20:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok?
I see some merit in it, but I also feel like its somewhat fabricated. Everything of Igrok I see comes off as townish for the most part. My biggest issue is that Koshi is hard town reading him.
2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads?
Town
BC
Bugs
VE(i know right)
Null to lean town
HF
Rayn
Igrok
Jock
Null to Lean Mafia
Koshi
Conversion
Mafia
Artanis
Calix
Disinformation
I LITERALLY ARTANIS one of his mafia reads why is he getting so angry?????? Why? Look at the shitstorm of the last now close to 30 pages. I can logically make a case on basically every single player in this game on why they are mafia. LITERALLY everyone. Yes that is me included. Why am I angry? because most people while I think might be town for the most part are all playing towards the mafia win con. This game day alone we have had 1 player fake claim 1 player claim undisclosed role 1 player have someone claim they breadcrumbed a role 1 player claim vet 1 player reaffirm their day 1 claim We have had players literally reappear randomly, bring up old cases / sentiment on people more or less being town read to throw shade at them again and vanish again. We have players spamming the thread in anger at eachother while serving literally no purpose aside from helping mafia hide etc.... Like seriously? and it feels like most people dont even give a shit about all this stuff.
so instead of being the problem how about you refocus some of these players like Koshi who just randomly jumped off his Artanis scum read to vote on a non-wagon factor of Calix, and convince people to lynch your scum read Artanis over your dumb town read iGrok
I don't think I have to tell you how to play this game, considering you have a much richer history in playing mafia, and you're a better player. I literally don't get it. are you mafia with Koshi or something?
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On May 26 2019 07:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's right newbies, I come from an age BEFORE THE FILTER BUTTON!
You neebs have it so easy.
My first game was in 2011 in a 40 person game, and I distinctly remember not having a filter button that game and getting overwhelmed and quitting for like 5 years or something
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well Koshi didn’t listen to me before going to bed and Igenuinely think we have scum in Artanis. I’m going out for dinner now— won’t be back most likely. but most of my townreads somehow think grok needs to flipped
I’m going to get dinner and scan the thread before EoD.
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so.. just got back from lunch.
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I’m tired man. maybe I wasn’t great at catching scum this game considering my first two cases were against Koshi the vet and disfo, who seems pretty Ok now I guess and people are townreading?
but like Koshi just randomly fucked off Artanis for no good reason onto Calix and got iGrok lynched. and now we have two MKs, especially one of my top townreads. for some reason rayn and Koshi refused to consolidate onto their possible scum!Artanis read and were totally okay lynching their sure town!iGrok read.
BC explodes at town and calls me a non entity when I’m trying to gather people off iGrok, but no one pulls together for someone I’m PRETTY sure was flailing scum. and then I’m called a non entity while everyone else fucks off and plays their own game. I’m tired of rayn calling me scum off one EoD interaction, and I’m sick of people ignoring me for whatever fucking reason while they townread me
I’m pretty fucking demotivated. whatever. I’m just gonna back off this game. I’m going to sheep you most likely Koshi.
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On May 27 2019 12:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyone following Koshi into oblivion, please step into line behind him in an orderly fashion. I'll be right there, I'm just preparing the map for our Lord.
I’ve prepared his robes, boots, and diamond encrusted sceptre.
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