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On May 25 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course! Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list? pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia: you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand) iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides thatanyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you? Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis but you put him as null to scummish???
considering I have one probably scum, two people I want to actively re-evaluate, and basically the rest of the game town, I could see him being scum by purely PoE.
if you're asking why it's weird that I'd have you both in the scummish pile, the moment I'd read either one of you as town/mafia, I'd re-evaluate. I don't see a world where busy mafia!Holyflare screams about mafia!iGrok all day (and now more compounded by your behemoth of a post on why he's scum).
I guess if I really wanted to tinfoil I could see a mafia!iGrok trying to weakly push a mafia!HF while it's "safe" to do so, but the EoD still doesn't make sense. no need to draw random bad attention to yourself like that. just AFK.
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hmm damn I really hate iGrok's OMGUS case against HF. If he believed in it so hard, why was he floating by the thread reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days.. instead of pushing his actual scumread or at least doing something around then. If HF didn't write that dissertation, would he have even popped up to do anything?
woof
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oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino)
On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote:
I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points.
If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux.
Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing.
Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either...
On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Oh right,
##Vote: Calix
On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote:
Because I don't think I can get HF lynched.
but he still votes HF at the end!
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oh wait I missed this post
On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
So I color-code my notes but I'm not going to do all the extra formatting for TL colors, and had something marked in red that in hindsight should not have been on ruxxar. just went back through his filter, and here's my key notes. Note that I don't always write down the post #, not all posts are by that person, etc
ruX
quick summary post
#811 feels weird
-ruxx & disfo? can't be... maybe buddying by rux??
would vote for convo
#862 actually takes effort, anti BC slightly
#977
-rayn = town
-hf = mafia, manipulating - also concurs with my point that HF was looking for wagons
#1096 - HF calls rux scum in response
##1102
-Ruxx: hf is acting scummy Hf: youre right, but your scummy for calling me scum.
#1347 rux makes good points that are town-indicative
So before I went back through rux's filter just now, I only had 3 points on rux. The summary post, the #1096 (which is HF attacking rux), and #1347. But when I went back through the filter, I realized I'd missed a couple things. Like #862, I had that in my internal notes pile but never moved it to external once I looked back at it. I think that was a good post. #977, if you think HF is scum, feels pretty green. HF responds in the #1096 that I'd had before, but #1102 is exactly how I'd feel as well.
So when I look back, I realize that my dislike of ruxxar mostly comes from A) me not reading closely enough and/or skipping some of his posts and B) the strongest argument against ruxxar comes from someone that I am now pretty sure is mafia.
I also don't think that Calix and Ruxx are both mafia because... obviously. no need to bus here. And ruxx and HF aren't the same alignment, and calix and HF aren't the same alignment.
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.
fuuck lol let me actually read HF's case..
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ok read HF's case. cool case.
On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it
one thing that I don't like about iGrok is that he shows that he has thoughts about the game outside of Calix/HF. right there. Artanis is his lowest read, outside of them. He later admits that the HF lynch won't happen, but he still ends up voting HF. weird. now this day, Artanis has a pretty good momentum going for him, and he mentioned that since he knows he's 100% town, he'll vote people to save himself. But he keeps staying on HF???
Why isn't he spending time to case someone else and tunnels onto HF like it's going to get him anywhere, when he says in his filter himself that lynching HF won't get anywhere. why does he think it's going to get him anywhere now?
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is that mafia!iGrok flailing since he knows Artanis is his scumbuddy, and trying to force a lynch onto someone else? but why would mafia!Grok try to lynch someone he deems is unlynchable by his own words, and is attempting to distance himself from his scumbuddy Artanis?
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damn son, bugs going hard. TAINTED the thread with that information. I’m the poison killing town’s suspicions on Koshi my dudes
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On May 25 2019 01:14 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 01:12 Conversion wrote:
damn son, bugs going hard. TAINTED the thread with that information. I’m the poison killing town’s suspicions on Koshi my dudes not sure if you're joking or being serious so I'll take you for srs just in case :p by tainted the thread I mean Koshi and his team saw what you said and he's probably adjusted by now if he's scum
oh I’m totally joking, no worries. was sort of mocking the general sentiment against you every time you make a post.  for what it’s worth I think I have a pretty solid set of towns, and I’m going to go enjoy LA now cause my partner’s about to stab me for playing when I said I wouldn’t
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![[image loading]](https://images.app.goo.gl/styPv1CKtZpeEEdv8) On May 25 2019 04:18 Holyflare wrote:I have to say Conversion's re-entry today was really bad for several reasons: He didn't actually remember what his read on iGrok was: Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course! Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list? pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia: you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand) iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides thatanyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you? but his read just a few posts before was: I called him out and it was: Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:37 Conversion wrote:On May 25 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course! Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list? pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia: you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand) iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides thatanyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you? On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis but you put him as null to scummish??? considering I have one probably scum, two people I want to actively re-evaluate, and basically the rest of the game town, I could see him being scum by purely PoE. if you're asking why it's weird that I'd have you both in the scummish pile, the moment I'd read either one of you as town/mafia, I'd re-evaluate. I don't see a world where busy mafia!Holyflare screams about mafia!iGrok all day (and now more compounded by your behemoth of a post on why he's scum). I guess if I really wanted to tinfoil I could see a mafia!iGrok trying to weakly push a mafia!HF while it's "safe" to do so, but the EoD still doesn't make sense. no need to draw random bad attention to yourself like that. just AFK. It's really weird because his original post had this: Show nested quote +iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that So it was like he was just getting ready to jump on the bandwagon? Coupled with his posts after researching iGrok it's: Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:50 Conversion wrote:
hmm damn I really hate iGrok's OMGUS case against HF. If he believed in it so hard, why was he floating by the thread reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days.. instead of pushing his actual scumread or at least doing something around then. If HF didn't write that dissertation, would he have even popped up to do anything?
woof Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 00:53 Conversion wrote:oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino) On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote:
I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points.
If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux.
Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing.
Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either... On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Oh right,
##Vote: Calix On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote:
Because I don't think I can get HF lynched. but he still votes HF at the end! It turns out he doesn't even know really why iGrok voted where he did or what was going on? I find that hard to believe since he interacted with iGrok for like the entire hour before deadline? Conversion wasn't interested where people were voted? He even got iGrok's vote wrong!
On May 22 2019 10:05 iGrok wrote:
##Vote: Holyflare
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On May 25 2019 05:53 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 25 2019 05:50 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:18 Holyflare wrote:I have to say Conversion's re-entry today was really bad for several reasons: He didn't actually remember what his read on iGrok was: On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course! Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list? pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia: you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand) iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides thatanyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you? but his read just a few posts before was: null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
I called him out and it was: On May 25 2019 00:37 Conversion wrote:On May 25 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course! Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list? pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia: you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand) iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides thatanyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you? On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.
here's my state of the game:
list of reads so far:
(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)
REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation
town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)
probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn
null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok
probably scum:
artanis but you put him as null to scummish??? considering I have one probably scum, two people I want to actively re-evaluate, and basically the rest of the game town, I could see him being scum by purely PoE. if you're asking why it's weird that I'd have you both in the scummish pile, the moment I'd read either one of you as town/mafia, I'd re-evaluate. I don't see a world where busy mafia!Holyflare screams about mafia!iGrok all day (and now more compounded by your behemoth of a post on why he's scum). I guess if I really wanted to tinfoil I could see a mafia!iGrok trying to weakly push a mafia!HF while it's "safe" to do so, but the EoD still doesn't make sense. no need to draw random bad attention to yourself like that. just AFK. It's really weird because his original post had this: iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that So it was like he was just getting ready to jump on the bandwagon? Coupled with his posts after researching iGrok it's: On May 25 2019 00:50 Conversion wrote:
hmm damn I really hate iGrok's OMGUS case against HF. If he believed in it so hard, why was he floating by the thread reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days.. instead of pushing his actual scumread or at least doing something around then. If HF didn't write that dissertation, would he have even popped up to do anything?
woof On May 25 2019 00:53 Conversion wrote:oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino) On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote:
I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points.
If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux.
Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing.
Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either... On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Oh right,
##Vote: Calix On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote:
Because I don't think I can get HF lynched. but he still votes HF at the end! It turns out he doesn't even know really why iGrok voted where he did or what was going on? I find that hard to believe since he interacted with iGrok for like the entire hour before deadline? Conversion wasn't interested where people were voted? He even got iGrok's vote wrong! What that's meant to say is "he even got iGrok's voting situation wrong" because it was obvious he didn't scum read ruxxar anymore.
but I admitted to that mistake and said the real weird thing was how he how he seems to just ignore Artanis for no real good reason when he seemed completely OK voting townies off to save himself, but he somehow won’t comment on Art at all when he’s the competing wagon, even when Art has some good momentum
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On May 25 2019 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:But that's not what he's doing He claimed and instantly was like "Well maybe I lynch not HF, maybe I lynch Bugs" He didn't stick to his reads at all! He INSTANTLY started shuffling around!
well I can’t speak to post claim Vet Koshi plays, but preclaim he seems the same to me. play makes a lot of sense as Vet. Gets a list, says fuck you to town, doesn’t play nice, gets mad his list didn’t get lynched, etc
this is without a dive fyi
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TBH I have no idea what roles/mafia should do what or when or etc. I let darthfoley misclaim a role in front of my face one game and I didn’t catch it one game
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hey town remember when we were gonna follow the guy I totally didn’t scumread for half of day one that turned out to be a veteran, and I thought was scummy out of a triangle of BC, VE, Artanis?
I think we should lynch that guy
also I just got wrecked by a massage chair
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On May 25 2019 06:29 Conversion wrote:
hey town remember when we were gonna follow the guy I totally didn’t scumread for half of day one that turned out to be a veteran? and lynch who I thought was scummy out of a triangle of BC, VE, Artanis?
I think we should lynch that guy
also I just got wrecked by a massage chair
EBWOP
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I am so far way too relaxed to be worked up from this game. I can see why Koshi barely played when he was in La Palma or whatever and had a 3 page filter
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On May 25 2019 07:30 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 07:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 07:27 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 07:23 Koshi wrote:
Mafia already removed jock as a ml. What is a ml? Mother in law You made me search for this on mafiawiki How embarrassing. Fuck you holyflare.
rekt
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On May 25 2019 07:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 07:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 07:27 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 07:23 Koshi wrote:
Mafia already removed jock as a ml. What is a ml? Mother in law It's a mafia term where they can't lynch you because you're essentially the thread's mother and too innocent looking
hahahah this is great
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guess who got sick on vacation like an idiot?
THIS IDIOT
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EPT
