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That doesn't state hes a scum read. I will fully give you it can look like that based on the other 3 names however.
On May 23 2019 07:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:Honestly idgaf if I get policy lynched for trolling about being scum because I have steadily lost a lot of desire to play this game thanks mostly to Koshi. Like I stopped caring what his alignment is and it’s so frustrating that he’s still allowed to enter games and do this garbage. I’m going to quote VE here because it encapsulates my thoughts perfectly On July 09 2016 07:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
It doesn't matter I won't be back. I'm not requesting a ban for you this game and I don't knew why anyone but me would. Like you can say it's sad and I'm a drama queen all you want, but it's not just about this game. It's every game you are in. You are a poison element in this community. IF you give a shit at all about this community, stop being a dick every game. You are killing TLMafia. The maybe 2? Games I played with Koshi back then were a huge factor in me taking a large hiatus from TL Mafia. It actually made me reflect a lot on the times I myself have been toxic, and I really really hope I’ve never been perceived anywhere near as toxic as Koshi is this game, to the multitude of players he’s been toxic to. Like I get it, not getting the lynch you want is frustrating. But this is on another level. If I ever play here again I’m going to ensure he’s not in the playerlist, and if I ever host again I’m banning him. I don’t actually care if that means I never play here again despite how much I actually like playing with the rest of you, even rayn. This general sentiment (not just in regards to koshi but a style he and many more do) led to my hiatus for so long. Honestly the only "troll" player I truly enjoy reading is Chezinu because well, its chez. His posts were always so carefully crafted.
Ill let you decide if this was a good enough reason, if not go to town on me man. Said I wouldn't fight it. Given I did have him as null or town everywhere else after that post you quoted.
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Honestly as a last bit. Filter this game a bit. Its 3 pages so you can see if im full of shit or not.
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=BloodyC0bbler Was mafia. I know theres at least 1 or 2 posts in there that could easily explain my stylistic change. However that is a very good example of my scum play. Especially given that its recent.
However now to continue reading everything else that happened while I slept.
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If not Art? At this moment im not 100%. I have a strong read on Calix but I'm easily able to admit that could because I extremely dislike her and my interaction before I went to bed. Waiting on me to simmer a bit on it and re read to come at it at a clear head. However atm it would be her.
As for Igrok. I liked them because they show he is actively scum hunting and making notes. He calls people out for things he notices. Sure that can be faked. But it doesn't strike me as "HI IM MAFIA" and instead comes of more like "HI IM TOWN"
Also he was willing to reevaluate a read over just auto locking a lynch due to new light. He may have re settled his read but actively being willing to update via new information is a good thing.
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On May 24 2019 05:41 disformation wrote:
eh sry for the huge quote thing. you quote like 5 grok quotes as being town. and two of them are very underwhelming imo.
also where the fuck is everyone else. i want opinions on this stuff (grok/art/bc) from everyone
I can totally appreciate your view. Its just how I saw him. I am clearly willing to admit I could be wrong. Regardless of what other people say, my strong suit has never been as town as I struggle to differentiate mafia from what I perceive as bad play. Which is my own fault and my own personal bias' that come into play.
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Easier to be sure of yourself when you are holding all the information haha
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On May 24 2019 01:06 Holyflare wrote:
You'll hopefully see the old me tomorrow!
putting this up for posterity. If he doesnt follow through I will have to seriously look at him.
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Only other thing I will say on the game link I posted. Artanis was also an observer for that game. So its not like he could forget =\
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HF. Given that you had a hand in molding his Mafia game. What is it that makes you so certain he is more town than not? Asking because I find reading him a clusterfuck -_-
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Oh fuck I somehow erased the name.
Koshi is who I meant to put in that.
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On May 24 2019 08:02 Holyflare wrote:
Oh, I'm beginning to think he's mafia just based purely on voting and berating.
Bet he'll end up being medic or something though and use it to case me :D His early game posts were fairly townie but he's being a right shitter recently. All his list posts are wildly inconsistent with what he should be thinking because none of them make sense together, he scum reads people in a list but then uses them as town reads forgetting they're in the list (iGrok) etc.
Pretty sure he facilitated the switch onto ruxxar by not voting for the highest wagon on d1 who he even thought was mafia too. Now he keeps throwing my name in as mafia despite not really thinking I'm mafia. Getting bit opportune, probably because he's running out of names to call mafia.
It's a pretty night and day difference to go from struggling to post last game to 21 pages of spam this game though. So, conclusion is, want him to stop being a shitter and actually play without all the obfuscation that he's been doing and post honest thoughts and work with townies.
Thats fair, I appreciate the input.
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Also for anyone who hasn't and plans to filter dive rayn, its long and painful. Especially when comparing it to other games -_-
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Downside to this game was that I knew a member of the mafia from d1 but wasn't allowed to do anything about it, then the host fuckup accidently outted said member. Feel kinda bad about it for bum. I mean at the time I was pissed you killed me but I have kinda gotten used to the fact that as town or mafia I draw bullets and lynches.
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On May 24 2019 11:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
You guys got host fucked in Storm too but that was labeled as a hard tame to start.
Also fuck this game -_-
Storm mafia was one of the biggest middle fingers to scum ever. Just glad third party won.
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On May 25 2019 05:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Holyflare Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 05:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
For all intents and purposes, Koshi should not have been shot last night. Can we agree on at least this premise?
Koshi wasn't even widely townread yesterday thus whoever was likely hardcore townreading him d1 would stick out like a sore thumb tbh.
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On May 25 2019 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
I don't agree with that premise because rayn/igrok could have shot him
bugs/bc could have shot him out of spite
haven't checked who else town read him so, no, not really a good premise
Rofl, under no circumstance would I shoot Koshi ever. Even if he pegged me, because he is at odds ends with too many people who will argue with him and clusterfuck the thread.
Id shoot him as town though for spite
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Err. Igrok has been like more or less 50/50 read scum / town like all game. I wouldn't say hes universally scumread.
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On May 25 2019 06:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG please tell me you think I slipped and I'm actually headed out of this shitshow.
Please tell me that.
Take me with you?
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On May 25 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
I don't want to, I like having you around. Let's see what BC has to say about my case on iGrok.
What page in your filter is in it? For ease of my reading it
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On May 25 2019 06:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 06:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 25 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
I don't want to, I like having you around. Let's see what BC has to say about my case on iGrok. What page in your filter is in it? For ease of my reading it Somewhere between 1 and the end of it. + Show Spoiler +https://tl.net/forum/mafia/547420-72-24-midnight-sun-mafia?user=Holyflare&page=16
Its not bad. I do like it. But I still (currently) would prefer to lynch Artanis. I will spend part of the night at work thinking on it, and on breaks filter diving igrok to get a better read but like, currently still prefer Artanis.
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