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On May 20 2019 20:31 Conversion wrote:
the fuck is Jock shitting on me for when I was literally on a plane and how are people eating that bullshit up as a scum read
dude literally shared a scum read with me in a post and then still scumreads me
stay classy
in other news disfo still has done nothing and I’m still hearing a lot of white noise on other people so we should lynch disfo. I’m heading to work now so hopefully I can llay at lunch or something
So if you want me to vote disfo based on them doing nothing then why shouldn't I vote for you? The only tihng you've done is kinda read disfo and while also saying you might be wrong about it.
The reason I would have for voting disfo is basically the reason I'm voting for you, but applies less in disfo's case.
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On May 20 2019 21:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I also really don't mind the Calix entry post as much as some people. Can be hard entering a game that's already started when your actual opinions just follow thread sentiment. Echoing it can be useful for people to know where you stand and it didn't feel like she was trying to pass it off as something she came up with.
Do you think Calix normally plays differently?
That's what koshi is getting at. Are we supposed to expect more?
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I'm starting to think VE is mafia.
He's behaving differently to last game in his posting style. Last game he was blue, but the difference is weird.
On May 02 2019 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh no, you don't cut into rayn's sauna time with this Pandain. Let him answer it post-lynch. A non-sauna'd rayn is an unhappy rayn.
On May 03 2019 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
But really Bugs, I'm telling you, it's not interesting from that point on. Pandain can feasibly be excused for his posting due to the thread rate at the time. The really telling bit is at the beginning of the game when he was town.
On May 03 2019 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO RAYN I DIDN'T
I will though, because I like you.
On May 03 2019 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man rayn fuck is this a MSPaint timeline case?
If it is rather than read it I'd like you to draw it in MSPaint.
On May 03 2019 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Man rayn that's painful. Like all it looks like to me is someone who's not used to playing with you taking umbrage with your playstyle. You didn't like his answers, but he DID answer. I'm definitely not seeing the mafia that you see. If there's something I'm missing, hit me up with it. Show nested quote +On May 02 2019 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just fucking saying and now you made me angry. Is it possible you're just mad?
On May 03 2019 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
You know what
No.
Pandain.
No.
You don't get to come in here and jizz all over the thread about "trying to lynch the gf" when A) you had literally zero credibility beyond your ability to provide ONE vote, and not even a vote OFF the main wagon. It was a useless vote on Rels that went nowhere and meant nothing, just like the Vivax vote.
In fact, it makes sense to me that the mafia team would be trying to capitalize on a possibly MODKILLED GF.
##Vote: Pandain
Notice how he directly addresses people by name when he's talking to them, as if he's trying to cooperatively play the game as part of a town team hunting scum.
not a single example of that in this game. Not once.
Is that a mafia tell? Dunno, but its a weird change in posting style.
Also important... In the last game he did the following thing when he was trying to get people lynched:
On May 01 2019 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should bring your sword and lynch Jock with us.
On May 03 2019 21:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Join the Pandain Counterwagon of Greatest Glory tm
I haven't seen anything like that either.
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Artanis what do you think of the post above. Is this kind of subtle change within the bounds of what could naturally change about the way someone posts from one game to the next???
I can't tell if its a good scum read or not. HELP ME. It might be nothing, i just noticed a change in his post style and having looked through a couple of filters that was what jumped out at me.
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On May 20 2019 22:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 22:17 Jockmcplop wrote:I'm starting to think VE is mafia. He's behaving differently to last game in his posting style. Last game he was blue, but the difference is weird. On May 02 2019 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh no, you don't cut into rayn's sauna time with this Pandain. Let him answer it post-lynch. A non-sauna'd rayn is an unhappy rayn. On May 03 2019 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
But really Bugs, I'm telling you, it's not interesting from that point on. Pandain can feasibly be excused for his posting due to the thread rate at the time. The really telling bit is at the beginning of the game when he was town. On May 03 2019 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
NO RAYN I DIDN'T
I will though, because I like you. On May 03 2019 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man rayn fuck is this a MSPaint timeline case?
If it is rather than read it I'd like you to draw it in MSPaint. On May 03 2019 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Man rayn that's painful. Like all it looks like to me is someone who's not used to playing with you taking umbrage with your playstyle. You didn't like his answers, but he DID answer. I'm definitely not seeing the mafia that you see. If there's something I'm missing, hit me up with it. On May 02 2019 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Just fucking saying and now you made me angry. Is it possible you're just mad? On May 03 2019 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
You know what
No.
Pandain.
No.
You don't get to come in here and jizz all over the thread about "trying to lynch the gf" when A) you had literally zero credibility beyond your ability to provide ONE vote, and not even a vote OFF the main wagon. It was a useless vote on Rels that went nowhere and meant nothing, just like the Vivax vote.
In fact, it makes sense to me that the mafia team would be trying to capitalize on a possibly MODKILLED GF.
##Vote: Pandain Notice how he directly addresses people by name when he's talking to them, as if he's trying to cooperatively play the game as part of a town team hunting scum. not a single example of that in this game. Not once. Is that a mafia tell? Dunno, but its a weird change in posting style. Also important... In the last game he did the following thing when he was trying to get people lynched: On May 01 2019 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should bring your sword and lynch Jock with us. On May 03 2019 21:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Join the Pandain Counterwagon of Greatest Glory tm I haven't seen anything like that either. i mean... a) you yourself said that ppl shouldnt meta you on a change of posting style since you mix it up on purpose? b) you could go to the database and dig out town and mafia games of VE and look for yourself if that could be a meta case?
My response to a) is that its probably different getting a meta read on someone who's been here for years compared to trying to do the same with someone who's only ever played 3 games of mafia. Of course I'm going to change up my style, I'm doing it deliberately. I would expect someone who's been here for ages to settle in to a posting style and not make weird small changes like that.
b) I'm going to do exactly this when I have time but I'm at work so I don't have an hour or two to spare to do that rn.
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On May 20 2019 22:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
After that post.
Early thread leanings
VE - Town
Rayn - Null - possible town
HF - null to scum
Jock - null to scum
Ruxxar - Lean scum
Callix - Scum
Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Rayn, take a step back and take a chill pill. Regardless of what else Jock has posted in thread, his most damning post is the one I quoted. Again, I want at least VE or Bugs, preferably both and a few others to talk on it and I will say why.
However at this point, Ruxxar and Calix are the 2 scummiest people in thread. I mean I would actually kill Ruxxar over Calix at this point but we also have 48 hours or some nonsense left to get information on people. What changed between these two posts? This was all that was posted by them in between: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:44 ruXxar wrote:
i dont know jocks meta, but i find it extremely unlikely he is mafia. Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:49 ruXxar wrote:On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not. On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post right here it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:54 Calix wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix I don't know what you refer to with 'too certain of [her] opinions' or 'tries to find the best angle to defend them' given that all I've really done so far is sheep people. Which I am going to continue doing for various reasons. On May 20 2019 06:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Umm Between Ruxxar and Calix one or both are red, just saying What about that post made you not like Ruxxar? In between, BC also posted this: Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Umm Between Ruxxar and Calix one or both are red, just saying Did he not read RuXxar's post the first time? Why is he suddenly more scummy than Calix?
This is actually interesting. I'm going to have a look at his filter very soon.
I have a theory on why BC changed his opinion on ruxxar but i'm going to let him answer this case before I say anything.
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On May 20 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm okay with BC honestly Artanis, the posturing and strawmen you mentioned in your first point about HF and rayn bidness just kinda feels like the way townBC thinks about the game. Trying to draw a line between the way townHF ended up playing last game and the way he's playing this game. Dunno I'm not seein what you see there.
HEY ARTANIS LOOK AT THIS POST
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On May 20 2019 23:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:24 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm okay with BC honestly Artanis, the posturing and strawmen you mentioned in your first point about HF and rayn bidness just kinda feels like the way townBC thinks about the game. Trying to draw a line between the way townHF ended up playing last game and the way he's playing this game. Dunno I'm not seein what you see there. HEY ARTANIS LOOK AT THIS POST HI JOCK I SEE THE POST THAT WAS MADE 4 MINUTES AGO
Notice the phrasing how it changed from earlier just after I mentioned how he changed his posting style since the last game.
Its weird.
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On May 20 2019 23:28 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 23:24 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm okay with BC honestly Artanis, the posturing and strawmen you mentioned in your first point about HF and rayn bidness just kinda feels like the way townBC thinks about the game. Trying to draw a line between the way townHF ended up playing last game and the way he's playing this game. Dunno I'm not seein what you see there. HEY ARTANIS LOOK AT THIS POST HI JOCK I SEE THE POST THAT WAS MADE 4 MINUTES AGO Notice the phrasing how it changed from earlier just after I mentioned how he changed his posting style since the last game. Its weird.
Like I was all perfectly willing to drop it. It seemed like a bit of a stretch to relate it to mafia playing. Sure, he could just change the way he posts due to time passing or whatever, but then he immediately starts calling people by name again as soon as I point out the change.
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On May 20 2019 23:32 Calix wrote:
I don't understand how this whole 'name' thing shows mafia motivation, lol.
It doesn't its just weird.
HUh, I'm probably wrong.
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On May 20 2019 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
JOCK I SWEAR TO GOD IF I HAVE TO QUOTE WALL MYSELF ONE MORE TIME ON YOUR FUCKING BEHALF.....
You forgot to finish your sentence.
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On May 20 2019 23:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
VE, Jock, Artanis, Calix can you guys stop fighting??? it's not actually getting us closer to solving the game.
If you're all town, then please work with me and each other. I'm about to peace off to bed soon but bring the focus back to ruxxar and disformation where it belongs. My stances are pretty clear, just go read my posts. And, if you have your doubts on me being town at this point then honestly I don't know what to tell you.
You could say that we need to town confirm each other before we can even start trying solve the game together, right?
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On May 20 2019 23:34 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 23:33 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
JOCK I SWEAR TO GOD IF I HAVE TO QUOTE WALL MYSELF ONE MORE TIME ON YOUR FUCKING BEHALF..... You forgot to finish your sentence. ...........YOU WON'T LIKE IT VERY MUCH I CAN ASSURE YOU!!!
I quite liked it this time I'll be honest.
Although it did kinda prove me wrong and make me look stupid so sorry for being a stupid townie.
At the same time, your posting does seem kinda different to me. I dind't go look that up for no reason, its jsut the only thing I could find. You aren't being as aggressive about trying to get people lynched either. Your in my null pile rn.
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On May 20 2019 23:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not flamebaiting Jock if anything he's flamebaiting me. He's saying patently untrue things about my filter in a way that I can only assume is malicious given the loads of evidence I provided to the contrary. I have to try and decide if I think he's mafia for it now, which was annoying because I thought he was town before.
Nah mate.
That wasn't flamebaiting I jsut got it wrong about that specific element of your posting differently. You seem less aggressive though for real.
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On May 20 2019 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah Jock backed right the fuck up off that real quick.
Maybe rayn is right and I'm wrong. :/
Well you literally proved me wrong you want me to keep banging my head on that wall?
Duh
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On May 20 2019 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
conversion I support you and would like to invite you to my town circle
What's conversion done to make you think he's town?
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On May 20 2019 23:55 Conversion wrote:
The only thing I'd comment on is that I do not think Jock is mafia, and I think he is even less mafia if disfo flips mafia. either that or Jock made a huge misstep in poorly defending disformation
I've not really tried to defend disfo as far as i remember. I jsut think you are more likely to be mafia form what i've read so far. Doesn't mean I think disfo is town.
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Y'know your the second person in here to say they're gonna ignore me (koshi backed off that quickly tho) but that genuinely makes you look like scum.
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"How can I make it seem fine to not have to answer someone's posts anymore?"
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On May 21 2019 00:05 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 00:00 Conversion wrote:On May 20 2019 23:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 23:55 Conversion wrote:
The only thing I'd comment on is that I do not think Jock is mafia, and I think he is even less mafia if disfo flips mafia. either that or Jock made a huge misstep in poorly defending disformation I've not really tried to defend disfo as far as i remember. I jsut think you are more likely to be mafia form what i've read so far. Doesn't mean I think disfo is town. I'm going to make one comment to you, and then ignore you for the rest of the day. reasons why are below: 1) you are stumbling trying to make points on different people, and you are misconstruing a lot of people's stances. 2) I have 0 idea why you think me pushing of disformation is more scummy than me when he still has not posted anything on what he thinks the relative state of the game is and again anyway Calix & Jock you should consolidate because we're not lynching Conversion today. Also Jock just FYI that I read you as town and I think your intentions seem good but if you continue doing what you've been doing I think you're eventually going to get lynched because you post a lot without thinking through the consequences. For instance, what is the purpose of attacking VE if you're trying to convince people that Conversion is scum? It dilutes the point of your message and makes people less likely to listen to you, especially if your points are off the mark. I know this cause I suffer from it a lot myself :p with that said you should vote ruxxar because he's the best lynch
Yeah that's a fair point to be honest. I'm trying to contribute as much as I can to the thread but I can see why it comes off as unfocused. Its day 1 though, so I'm kinda flailing around a bit trying to get the lay of the land.
Who do you think I should consolidate on to? I could go for a ruxxar lynch or even disinfo at a push, but I'd rather lynch conversion given the choice.
What makes you think 'we're not lynching conversion today'?
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