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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 23:23 GMT
#1961
But I also think I missd the rux/jock post, what was it again?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 23:35 GMT
#1981
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.

"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.

I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.

That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 23:38 GMT
#1987
VE, you said in the beginning that rayn and bugs would shit up the thread trying to lynch each other. Please don't take rayn's place just because he's not here lol
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 21 2019 23:40 GMT
#1990
On May 22 2019 08:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
We’re not voting BC here, the waffle potential is strong but there are too many reasons to townread him. Ignoring piles of evidence at deadline is not a winning strategy

Although I might be the only person who townreads iGrok here so w/e

Koshi also townreads me, and I think rayn does but I'm not sure.
I also think disinfo probably leans town on me
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 00:30 GMT
#2006
On May 22 2019 09:03 ruXxar wrote:
cba to put up any resistance tbh.
im happy with my day 1 performance.

Well that’s just... ugh.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 00:50 GMT
#2008
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.

Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 00:54 GMT
#2009
But like, ruxxar is still my #4 so its fine
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:05 GMT
#2013
##Vote HolyFlare

Give me a sec to write why I think him over rux
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:06 GMT
#2014
Dont both reading koshi, its mostly spam and says "HF and Calix are scum, grok is bad town" or something like that
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:16 GMT
#2016
So I color-code my notes but I'm not going to do all the extra formatting for TL colors, and had something marked in red that in hindsight should not have been on ruxxar. just went back through his filter, and here's my key notes. Note that I don't always write down the post #, not all posts are by that person, etc

ruX
quick summary post
#811 feels weird
-ruxx & disfo? can't be... maybe buddying by rux??
would vote for convo
#862 actually takes effort, anti BC slightly
#977
-rayn = town
-hf = mafia, manipulating - also concurs with my point that HF was looking for wagons
#1096 - HF calls rux scum in response
##1102
-Ruxx: hf is acting scummy Hf: youre right, but your scummy for calling me scum.
#1347 rux makes good points that are town-indicative

So before I went back through rux's filter just now, I only had 3 points on rux. The summary post, the #1096 (which is HF attacking rux), and #1347. But when I went back through the filter, I realized I'd missed a couple things. Like #862, I had that in my internal notes pile but never moved it to external once I looked back at it. I think that was a good post. #977, if you think HF is scum, feels pretty green. HF responds in the #1096 that I'd had before, but #1102 is exactly how I'd feel as well.

So when I look back, I realize that my dislike of ruxxar mostly comes from A) me not reading closely enough and/or skipping some of his posts and B) the strongest argument against ruxxar comes from someone that I am now pretty sure is mafia.

I also don't think that Calix and Ruxx are both mafia because... obviously. no need to bus here. And ruxx and HF aren't the same alignment, and calix and HF aren't the same alignment.

So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:21 GMT
#2017
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF

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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:24 GMT
#2019
I dont think those posts are bad. I actually think they're null to good.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:25 GMT
#2021
On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:

Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.

Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.

Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.

so what this means is:

If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF


@Calix if you can find a flaw in this please let me know.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:30 GMT
#2023
Like, in a town as disorganized as this it just doesn't benefit them at all. The votes are all spread out so they can manipulate who gets lynched with only one member changing their vote. Its just not worth the risk of accidentally fucking your teammate.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:31 GMT
#2024
Well, one member changing to the person they want, and one member changing off of the person who was in the lead before.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:41 GMT
#2028
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.

The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".

Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:50 GMT
#2032
@ convo you mixed up your table
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:54 GMT
#2033
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:55 GMT
#2034
Shit, now I'm messing it up too lol
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 22 2019 01:56 GMT
#2035
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA

Forgot that part
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