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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:08 GMT
#1224
Okay if nobody else is going to try pushing for a lynch then I'll do it. HF/ Jock/ WBG, we should go back to rayn. I'm pretty sure his train was pure. And since the pressure went off him, he's done pretty much nothing to redeem himself.

##vote raynpelikoneet

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:10 GMT
#1227
Sure. I don't think rayn/ Koshi are a thing lol. Doesn't really make sense with the whole 'proxy vote' stuff.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:17 GMT
#1234
On May 21 2019 20:04 disformation wrote:
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On May 21 2019 20:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 21 2019 19:59 Calix wrote:
We could lynch rayn. I haven't seen any good reasons to town-read him and a lot of us have him as null/ scum, yes?

Also D1 claim is so bad. But its rayn does it mean anything?

tbh i also once had a game where i kinda lost my shit as cop n1 and claimed. super horrible. but either way the rayn stuff is prolly resolving itself soonish?


Jesus, who cares about the claim? What about his actual posts???
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:28 GMT
#1241
On May 21 2019 20:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 21 2019 17:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He already pissed me off and normally it stops sooner when he is town. Bit idk. I am noy gonna vote for anyways. Tbh i am not gonna change my vote at all because even if jock is town he is still +1 mafia. Noone as town should ever say shit like that then later on just say oh thats not why i said it you should just trust i meant something i didnt say.


I never said anything like this rayn you are talking shit.
I don't understand why you think you can flat out lie about something that everyone can read in my filter.
I also don't really get why mafia would even try that its soooooo fucking stupid.

I'm tempted to vote you just so I can find out whether calix is scum or not.



Calling bullshit on the idea that you can tell ANYTHING about my alignment from rayn's flip.

Vote rayn because he's mafia, not because of some stupid "get information" idea you have -_-
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:34 GMT
#1247
On May 21 2019 20:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 21 2019 20:28 Calix wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 21 2019 17:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He already pissed me off and normally it stops sooner when he is town. Bit idk. I am noy gonna vote for anyways. Tbh i am not gonna change my vote at all because even if jock is town he is still +1 mafia. Noone as town should ever say shit like that then later on just say oh thats not why i said it you should just trust i meant something i didnt say.


I never said anything like this rayn you are talking shit.
I don't understand why you think you can flat out lie about something that everyone can read in my filter.
I also don't really get why mafia would even try that its soooooo fucking stupid.

I'm tempted to vote you just so I can find out whether calix is scum or not.



Calling bullshit on the idea that you can tell ANYTHING about my alignment from rayn's flip.

Vote rayn because he's mafia, not because of some stupid "get information" idea you have -_-


The thing is...
If rayn is mafia he's even more retarded than if he's town.
So I wouldn't vote for him on that basis --- as I explained in the above post.

Why are you trying to start a wagon on rayn? Is he your #1 scumread?


His filter is dirtier than a shit-stained arsehole, he has very few redeeming qualities, has largely been ignored ever since the early game [did I mention he did fuck all when pressure was taken off him? Super town right there], had a bunch of town-reads voting for him so it's very unlikely any pressure on him was scum-generated, etc.

Also a bunch of people I town-read STILL think he's not in the clear so I don't see the hold-up.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:52 GMT
#1264
On May 21 2019 20:49 disformation wrote:
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On May 21 2019 20:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:36 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jesus fuck Disinformation. This was my original read for jock. Posted in the fucking thread, hell its even in my filter you just dove.

On May 20 2019 14:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Again, im not saying kill jock as of right now. What I am saying is this. Keep an eye on him. The reason the post of his I quoted earlier i said was the "scummiest thing" he has done is a few reasons

A) Outside Rayn he has basically done dick fuck all
B) for a completely new player to change their meta so much with the same alignment 3 games in a row is shady.

Basically hes a good cop check?


Ruxxar, Calix and Disinformation to me are higher in likelyhood to strike red.

that is _after_ that progression. its like 6-7 hours after you are like "jock is a scum lean, read wbg for my thought progression".


You do realize that after the post I just quoted of mine I basically didnt talk about Jock for ages? Why do you care about my Jock read progression. I literally in my filter said I wasn't 100% on him and it was a lean. Why the hell do you care more about my reasons for someone leaning scum as opposed to someone I think is scum?

You are reading the thread, you have been here more or less active the entire game day and have offered nothing of substance. Help us solve the game, or if you just insist on tunneling people who point in your direction get ready to likely get vigi'd or lynched.

cause i cant follow your read progression at all, which to me means you are scum trying to make shit up?
dont think its that hard to understand.
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On May 21 2019 20:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:42 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:30 disformation wrote:
of the top of my head top 3 might just be like bc and conv. maybe grok. like if i say fuck this game i can sheep bugs.
actually kinda want to look into joshi and rayn. imo joshi and i have totally different reeds.



So let me get this straight. You only have 2 scum reads. Both of those people have called you mafia and thus you call them mafia in return.

Then you say fuck it, you will sheep bugs.....who thinks one of your main scum reads is town?

You are clearing reading the thread, but haven't looked into either Koshi or Rayn? Like what is this shit?

yeah, i am prolly a decent target for scum atm, pretty sure there is scum in the ppl scumreading me.
yes, like i mentioned earlier bugs is like the only sane person in this damn game.
nah rayn is imo gonna solve himself and im not confident in reading joshi in the first place. but i am starting to notice that he and i have a lot of different reads so i want to see if i have a decent shot at his alignment from that.



If you think Bugs is the only sane person in the game you would trust his judgment on me, which you dont. Especially given you said you would sheep him. So instead of antagonizing me you should want to be doing you know, something productive?

like. you can think someone is town without 100% marrying/copying all their reads?

frankly this is getting super annoying


Yeah this argument is dumb. Just because disformation thinks WBG is town doesn't mean he has to think you're town. I think WBG is town. Doesn't mean I'm gonna crib his reads, lmao

Agree with BC that disformation should do something else though Like vote for rayn!
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:56 GMT
#1270
On May 21 2019 20:53 disformation wrote:
jo. bugs, calix do you guys see the problem in bc's read progression too or am i just stupid?


If BC is scum, it's not because of his Jock progression IMO.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 11:59 GMT
#1274
On May 21 2019 20:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 21 2019 20:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
disfo, conversion, BC (especially BC, cause you came in with the intention of cleaning up the thread :D)

you're doing that classic town vs town vs town shitfest thing.

Let's back it up a bit, and come to an agreement that you all disagree with each other, and from this standpoint it looks like you're all arguing about completely pointless things when none of the things any of you are pointing out seem scummy to me.


I would like to do this.

I think we need to start working together more.

I'll start with this:

##Unvote


Right conversion, I still think you're scum but my vote will most likely land elsewhere. I'm fed of being being distracted with you putting me on the defensive while I'm trying to figure out more important shit.

WBG: Can you see why I need to figure out calix/koshi???
Calix has almost exactly the same reads as me and is now trying to get the rayn trayn a running. However, Koshi is insisting that calix is scum and we're all stupid for not already knowing that.

So... I need to know whether calix is scum so I can figure out whether or not to reevaluate absolutely everything so far.

What are you thinking on this? I'm sorry for being fucking useless but I don't even know how to figure this shit out at all... especially while koshi isn't here.



Stop dick-riding Koshi and come up with your OWN thoughts on me.

I'm right here. Go read my filter or whatever and talk to me. It's not rocket science.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:01 GMT
#1276
I don't understand why VE is being considered over rayn. At least VE's actually playing the game.

A bunch of the points against VE seem to be meta-based, or based around 'well he'd usually do this but he's doing that instead' or something, and since I don't know VE, these points don't have much credibility with me tbh.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:05 GMT
#1281
On May 21 2019 21:03 Conversion wrote:
@BC my list got lost thanks unresponsive mobile website

the PoE comes down to one of rayn/koshi + disfo + someone else. i have you and wbg as town reads, jock sort of town because never do I see a jock-disfo team from early interactions, except he’s pissing me off for pushing me and saying he’s getting things done when he’s flailing and now he’s essentially soing what I did when Bugs appealed us to get our shitfighting over with

calix jumped off her p. strong scumread (me) fast because thread wasnt gaining traction so that’s really weird. also kind of opportunistic to think she can lynch HF without more consistent posting

I can feel ruxxar’s ideas, but his play is kind of erratic to me. unsure if I can pin him with a team, but he’s a null

koshi is scum read bc he’s playing rather meek. also gives me weird feelings when he’s not actively pushing me as scum. he always does that

thats my tldr. i have a LOT of work to do since I didn’t do anything but yell about disfo so let me read some shit ok?


I'm trying to lynch rayn, someone who is IN YOUR POE. You even agree that one of rayn/ Koshi is mafia!
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:09 GMT
#1288
On May 21 2019 21:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
VE does on iGrok what rayn does on Jock.

basically they both bring up some really old shit that they can't seem to get past, while townies would holistically look at the situation and incorporate new information as it arrives.

Like they're both basically parroting the same stuff from nearly 2 IRL days ago when there are far better things to look at now.


I was literally just about to say that rayn's latest post is just him dredging up the same old, same old.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:11 GMT
#1291
On May 21 2019 21:10 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:05 Calix wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:03 Conversion wrote:
@BC my list got lost thanks unresponsive mobile website

the PoE comes down to one of rayn/koshi + disfo + someone else. i have you and wbg as town reads, jock sort of town because never do I see a jock-disfo team from early interactions, except he’s pissing me off for pushing me and saying he’s getting things done when he’s flailing and now he’s essentially soing what I did when Bugs appealed us to get our shitfighting over with

calix jumped off her p. strong scumread (me) fast because thread wasnt gaining traction so that’s really weird. also kind of opportunistic to think she can lynch HF without more consistent posting

I can feel ruxxar’s ideas, but his play is kind of erratic to me. unsure if I can pin him with a team, but he’s a null

koshi is scum read bc he’s playing rather meek. also gives me weird feelings when he’s not actively pushing me as scum. he always does that

thats my tldr. i have a LOT of work to do since I didn’t do anything but yell about disfo so let me read some shit ok?


I'm trying to lynch rayn, someone who is IN YOUR POE. You even agree that one of rayn/ Koshi is mafia!


see this is why i dont wanna post without reading bc ppl just get mad at things when i literally said i have incomplete info

thank u for bringing that up. i’ll reread and reevaluate. are you still lynching hf?


I've never wanted to lynch HF.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:13 GMT
#1295
Rayn is not an asset IN THIS GAME. I don't give two shits about how good he's supposed to be or COULD be in a world where he's town when right now he is playing like this.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:21 GMT
#1304
So rayn mafia-reads me because one time I said I town-read HF because he said a bunch of stuff before I did.

And this is his 100% mafia read.

Jesus Christ.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:28 GMT
#1313
On May 21 2019 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
going to point out that I also viewed HF town at that point, and I guess you were sort of internally consistent in that you called me scum (IIRC?) for calling HF confirmed town there

you dont have that much history with HF and you're dumb.


Intentionally abrasive attitude to hide how he's said nothing smart this game, check.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:35 GMT
#1320
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
So at that point ruxxar should also not have been totally confident that HF and Jock are town? Like why extend this suspicion to every person who called HF & jock town EXCEPT ruxxar?

because none of the players in this game are the same person. different people saying same things don't mean same alignment because they are different people. this is ofc extremely hard to understand for dumb people.


yeah, this would make sense if you actually had a nuanced read here but you don't. Like, you complain constantly about me not explaining reads and when I explain them in a way that you don't like you call me dumb over and over, but when you do it, it's fine and dandy.

Like your reasons this game have literally just been "I've played with this person before and I think this therefore I'm right". I don't recall you doing that kind of thing to the degree I see you doing here in the last game.

Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

And now I'm going to include a sentence that predicts you're going to refuse to do this because you refuse to explain such things to people like me who obviously are too dumb to understand, with the hope that me including this sentence would discourage you from actually dodging like that if you're town.


Don't let rayn's comments about how 'dumb' you are get to you. He's trying to tilt you as part of mafia agenda. It's nothing personal.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:43 GMT
#1331
Rayn has literally done nothing but spew irrelevant things into the thread. Repetitive reads that add nothing new, some bullshit about previous games, insults...he's obviously trying to pollute the thread and stir shit up, not clarify anything.

Thread would be ten times better if he hadn't posted at all, that's how much he is pushing mafia agenda.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:48 GMT
#1339
On May 21 2019 21:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Do you have an actual rationale for why it's within ruxxar's towngame for him to do that and not be scum, and why, according to you, people misread him? Like surely if you expect to convince people of that, who haven't actually played with him, you need some way of laying it out?

Similarly on Calix, since you apparently know her history all so well, why don't you spell it out to me?

I dont have a good answer for the first thing. I just don't feel like he is mafia. Maybe i am wrong maybe i am right, but i sure as hell think there are more scummy people than ruxxar and i dont think those people are mafia with him.

I just did give an example. You were in the very same game.


Ruxxar has played in the same game where I evaded a red check and got the cop lynched and still won. Calix has arguably played less with me than ruxxar, especially as mafia so would know even less about that.


Eh? I don't recall playing with ruxxar at all.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:50 GMT
#1344
On May 21 2019 21:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On May 21 2019 21:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like LOL with the thread in the state that it is it's almost guaranteed that mafia aren't even playing right now, it's a carbon copy of last game. Literally the only difference is that I don't agree with Bugs so he thinks I'm mafia and wants to lynch me for it in spite of the most logical thing being that mafia just aren't playing.

Whatever. Figure it out. I'll help consolidate. Don't lynch me. Don't be retarded.


If you vote rayn I might spare you

nah who am I kidding I'll probably try to kill you right after rayn dies

Rayn is town and so am I. Try again.


wtf lol
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 21 2019 12:51 GMT
#1348
On May 21 2019 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 21 2019 21:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
Only joking.

Why isn't everyone else also voting for rayn.

Top notch high quality lynch right there. Obviously has zero town motivation for any single one of his posts.


You're the bugs of the rayn lynch trying to ram it down our throats and I don't think I like this version.+ Show Spoiler [stuff that I'm thinking in my he…] +
I think you might have a good chance at being mafia in fact because of this. You seem to put weight into people being mafia way too much on little nuances that shouldn't carry that much weight and you have seemingly inconsistent thought processes on say lynching someone to get a view of someone else.


I find it weird how you ask everyone for help on reading calix but feel this passionate about rayn.


Actually that last point is legit. Because Jock and I have voted with each other on EVERY SINGLE TRAIN.
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