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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:31 GMT
#1760
On May 22 2019 04:21 Koshi wrote:
She scumread conversion hard in second list post. Some time later she posts that.

Not too mention all the posts about me but never ever hard pushing me or vote me.

Townies are relentless. Townies get tunneled.

Calix gives reasons to scumread me till the end of time. Never votes me and calls me town in association with rayn being mafia or something.


Like I dont care tbh. She needs to die for crimes against humanity

It kinda sounds like you're scumreading her for not being like you tbh. I like her.
##Unvote

Gonna check out iGrok.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:39 GMT
#1767
I really don't have much of an opinion on iGrok. There's just not much in there. Could lynch based on blandness.
On May 22 2019 04:35 Koshi wrote:
If you dont lynch Calix you should lynch HF

How does Mafia!HF "defend" himself like this ever though?

On May 22 2019 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And HF, explain your read progression on me. You disliked me, read my filter, gave a begrudging townread and now you're scumreading me for something that is wholly false.


Eh, yeah, you're pretty correct actually I don't know. I think it's because you're just not around that you kind of fall by the wayside and I'm like "oh, I haven't scum read that guy in a while and nobody else fits, let's call him mafia."

Like what.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:42 GMT
#1772
On May 22 2019 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if he's a parity cop and he lives long enough to report? You lynch it automatically REGARDLESS of the report because A) he shouldn't have lived that long and B) it will confirm his report. EZPZ.

Uhhh..

Godfather - Returns as town to cop checks [Not Optional - Passive]

Framer - Targets a player once per night, that player returns the opposite alignment to cop and parity cop checks for that night. If the Godfather is framed, they return 'mafia' to checks. [Optional]

Unaware Wandering Miller - A regular VT who receives the same role PM as a VT. Each night a random player is chosen. UWM counts as having visited that player during the night. UWM also counts as mafia for the purposes of cop and parity cop checks. [Not Optional - Passive]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:44 GMT
#1775
On May 22 2019 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chances are he's rb/killed before we even have to think about it. That's at least part of why rayn is off the table today for me.

How is him claiming/getting rbed going to help determine his alignment, VE?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:47 GMT
#1782
On May 22 2019 04:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [dont open this] +
I can't be mafia because I don't even know what roles they might have!

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:50 GMT
#1785
For real though, can we not just lynch the cobbler?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:50 GMT
#1786
Here, I'll show how.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler

Just copy and paste that in the vote thread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:57 GMT
#1791
1. Shitty entrance:
On May 20 2019 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BC is on my radar.
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

A lot of posturing in here, as well as a strawman. HF fakeclaiming has nothing to do with claiming a wrong name for a role. The two situations are incomparable. Also, what is he actually accomplishing with this? He's making a general statement without bothering to follow up on who transgressed in the way he mentioned. "Anyone who liked HF for his claim comments should want to kill HF instead". What? And then anyone who liked him for things after is in the clear? When did we suddenly switch from talking about HF's alignment to the alignment of these unnamed players?

Show nested quote +
Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.

Speaking of thread sentiment, how about piling onto a post everyone's already piled up on? Seems like a good strategy. He's being wordy on a post people have already gone into detail about. Pretty easy.

Show nested quote +
VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far.

Says basically nothing.

Show nested quote +
Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game.

On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Rayn, what was the plan behind it?

No plan. I just thought it would be fun.


So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead?

That's really the line you're going with lol?

Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...

I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too.


Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn??

It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy.

In this quote thread, BC comes out with the following reads on people listed:

Rayn - Null - possible town
HF - null to scum
Jock - null to scum
And no read on me. If everyone's nullish, what could possibly be interesting on this streak that he wants to get reads on others off on? I don't get it.


2. Shitty followup as shown by RuX:
On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from.

From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment?


Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight.

In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could.

Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up.
Disinformation? same basic thing.

So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me.

Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up.

So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.





Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation.

I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis.

Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues.
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again

rayn voted:
D1 - mafia

bugs voted:
D1 - town
D2 - town
D3 - town
D4 - town

i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real.


gonna vote for mafia again.
##vote Calix


When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.


3. Super aggro posting as he often does in scum games:
On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.

Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.

I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?

Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?

This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.

and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.

This post is particularly funny as he shits on the thread whilst not producing any alternatives himself.

On May 21 2019 20:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jesus fuck Disinformation. This was my original read for jock. Posted in the fucking thread, hell its even in my filter you just dove.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 14:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Again, im not saying kill jock as of right now. What I am saying is this. Keep an eye on him. The reason the post of his I quoted earlier i said was the "scummiest thing" he has done is a few reasons

A) Outside Rayn he has basically done dick fuck all
B) for a completely new player to change their meta so much with the same alignment 3 games in a row is shady.

Basically hes a good cop check?


Ruxxar, Calix and Disinformation to me are higher in likelyhood to strike red.


On May 21 2019 20:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 20:30 disformation wrote:
of the top of my head top 3 might just be like bc and conv. maybe grok. like if i say fuck this game i can sheep bugs.
actually kinda want to look into joshi and rayn. imo joshi and i have totally different reeds.



So let me get this straight. You only have 2 scum reads. Both of those people have called you mafia and thus you call them mafia in return.

Then you say fuck it, you will sheep bugs.....who thinks one of your main scum reads is town?

You are clearing reading the thread, but haven't looked into either Koshi or Rayn? Like what is this shit?


4. Scumreads almost exclusively on people scumreading him:
On May 21 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Fuck. I need to sleep.

Currently Voting for VE. Although I may be seeing ghosts so I need to think on it a bit / re read his filter.

If hes not who we decide to lynch.

At this point id still be down for

Artanis
Disinformation
Ruxxar.

I will clearly update / reevaluate based on whatever is posted while im gone but those 4 would be my preferred lynch priorities

All of these other than VE which he just pulled out of his ass for no reason are people who scumread or threw shade on him.

5. Speaking of VE, he mentioned he was going to filter him, then decides not to share anything about his scumread, just votes VE and fucks off talking about other people without pushing his preferred lynch at all.

Pls kill.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 19:57 GMT
#1792
VE, do you even know why BC is scumreading you?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 20:01 GMT
#1797
On May 22 2019 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's not, he's trusting townread bugs and fearing my skill

If that's true, that makes him vote you over his other three actual scumreads that he could actually get lynched in what world as town? When has BC ever fear pushed someone over his actual scumreads?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 20:04 GMT
#1800
Taking Koshi's advice:
Lynch the Cobbler
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 21 2019 20:06 GMT
#1801
And now I'm gonna spend time with the wife. I feel good about this vote. Please read the post and follow your heart.
On May 22 2019 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1. Shitty entrance:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BC is on my radar.
On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

A lot of posturing in here, as well as a strawman. HF fakeclaiming has nothing to do with claiming a wrong name for a role. The two situations are incomparable. Also, what is he actually accomplishing with this? He's making a general statement without bothering to follow up on who transgressed in the way he mentioned. "Anyone who liked HF for his claim comments should want to kill HF instead". What? And then anyone who liked him for things after is in the clear? When did we suddenly switch from talking about HF's alignment to the alignment of these unnamed players?

Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.

Speaking of thread sentiment, how about piling onto a post everyone's already piled up on? Seems like a good strategy. He's being wordy on a post people have already gone into detail about. Pretty easy.

VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far.

Says basically nothing.

Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game.

On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Rayn, what was the plan behind it?

No plan. I just thought it would be fun.


So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead?

That's really the line you're going with lol?

Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...

I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too.


Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn??

It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy.

In this quote thread, BC comes out with the following reads on people listed:

Rayn - Null - possible town
HF - null to scum
Jock - null to scum
And no read on me. If everyone's nullish, what could possibly be interesting on this streak that he wants to get reads on others off on? I don't get it.


2. Shitty followup as shown by RuX:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:
On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from.

From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment?


Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight.

In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could.

Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up.
Disinformation? same basic thing.

So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me.

Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up.

So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.





On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix

On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation.

I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis.

Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues.
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On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again

rayn voted:
D1 - mafia

bugs voted:
D1 - town
D2 - town
D3 - town
D4 - town

i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real.


gonna vote for mafia again.
##vote Calix


When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first.

On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.


3. Super aggro posting as he often does in scum games:
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On May 21 2019 19:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
This thread is such a clusterfuck.

Lets all sit back for like, 5 minutes. Remove all our current views for the moment on Calix and Ruxxar.

I say this as these 2 have eaten up the majority of the last well, 30+ hours?

Who does everyone else think is mafia. Of those people who has been say mentioned many times but like, any number of people but its either ignored, buried, or forgotten?

This is for people like VE and Bugs. Stop fighting each other for 5 minutes and how about we find some form of consensus.

and before you yell and scream at me bugs. Yes I think Ruxxar could still flip mafia, but it means jack shit currently if neither of us can convince anyone else to see what we have. So if only 2 maybe 3 people see what we see, just for a moment concede for the purposes of other options that we could be wrong.

This post is particularly funny as he shits on the thread whilst not producing any alternatives himself.

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On May 21 2019 20:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jesus fuck Disinformation. This was my original read for jock. Posted in the fucking thread, hell its even in my filter you just dove.

On May 20 2019 14:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Again, im not saying kill jock as of right now. What I am saying is this. Keep an eye on him. The reason the post of his I quoted earlier i said was the "scummiest thing" he has done is a few reasons

A) Outside Rayn he has basically done dick fuck all
B) for a completely new player to change their meta so much with the same alignment 3 games in a row is shady.

Basically hes a good cop check?


Ruxxar, Calix and Disinformation to me are higher in likelyhood to strike red.


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On May 21 2019 20:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 21 2019 20:30 disformation wrote:
of the top of my head top 3 might just be like bc and conv. maybe grok. like if i say fuck this game i can sheep bugs.
actually kinda want to look into joshi and rayn. imo joshi and i have totally different reeds.



So let me get this straight. You only have 2 scum reads. Both of those people have called you mafia and thus you call them mafia in return.

Then you say fuck it, you will sheep bugs.....who thinks one of your main scum reads is town?

You are clearing reading the thread, but haven't looked into either Koshi or Rayn? Like what is this shit?


4. Scumreads almost exclusively on people scumreading him:
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On May 21 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Fuck. I need to sleep.

Currently Voting for VE. Although I may be seeing ghosts so I need to think on it a bit / re read his filter.

If hes not who we decide to lynch.

At this point id still be down for

Artanis
Disinformation
Ruxxar.

I will clearly update / reevaluate based on whatever is posted while im gone but those 4 would be my preferred lynch priorities

All of these other than VE which he just pulled out of his ass for no reason are people who scumread or threw shade on him.

5. Speaking of VE, he mentioned he was going to filter him, then decides not to share anything about his scumread, just votes VE and fucks off talking about other people without pushing his preferred lynch at all.

Pls kill.


Lynch the Cobbler. Lynch the man who will bleed red. Do it for justice. Do it for Liquidia. Do it because it's right.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 10:20 GMT
#2130
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 10:23 GMT
#2131
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 10:33 GMT
#2135
On May 22 2019 19:26 Calix wrote:
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On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


K but why do you have Koshi and WBG in the wrong place? Koshi also scum-read BC but didn't bother moving his vote when iGrok [town-read] was the leading train to make BC [someone he at least scum-reads] a viable wagon, choosing instead to stay on me after it became really unlikely I would die. Fail to see how you read his near-EOD posts and conclude 'town'.

Koshi's energy is something I've found he really struggles to emulate as scum. I don't think the amount of effort he's put into this game is within his scum range.
On May 22 2019 19:28 Calix wrote:
Also if you think VE and I are mafia then shouldn't iGrok be higher up on your list since VE and I both voted for him over BC?

Don't really get your reads.

It might be if you guys actually stayed on iGrok, but you both switched to RuX in the end.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 10:37 GMT
#2136
On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

Not 2 hours straight today, don't have the time. Will check in on my phone from time to time.

1. I don't think he believed that VE would ever take off with his thread presence. Can you quote the second thing?

2. I'm talking about when I cased BC. Both of them said they liked the case, and neither seemed that convinced that they wanted to lynch iGrok. It was a moment where no one was really sure who they wanted to lynch.

3. Forgot about him. I guess he's townish since he wants to lynch the Cobbler with me but that's about all I remember.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 11:02 GMT
#2141
On May 22 2019 19:43 Calix wrote:
So you think 'no one was really sure who they wanted to lynch' - which sounds like a bunch of uninformed townies struggling to decide on a lynch - yet conclude that 2/4-5 people at EOD who fit this description are...mafia? Wouldn't we, I dunno, have wanted to lynch iGrok to save our mafia buddy BC who could've been lynched?

Obviously hypothetical but I don't think your theory makes sense and it's not just cos I'm in it.

Personally I thought EOD felt pretty clean myself.

I read it as trying to find a lynch without being the one to hard push for it. iGrok wasn't particularly strongly pushed by anyone, even HF. With the alternative lynch being yourself, there weren't many good options until WBG started pushing RuX.

However, it doesn't make that much sense for VE as he'd already had a scumread on iGrok from the start. It wouldn't be hard for him to explain switching to iGrok. I still don't understand why he didn't press BC harder when he started feeling suspicious on him though.

As for yourself, you had already positioned against lynching iGrok in the past and were clearly on the fence between him and BC, but you never interact with BC in any meaningful way. Also, there's this:
On May 22 2019 07:05 Calix wrote:
Hey Koshi, you'd literally be more helpful if you shut the fuck up and vote for BC instead. Since I'm probably not getting lynched at this point. And you'd actually be voting for mafia then.

Whilst not voting for BC yourself. It doesn't feel like you actually want to lynch BC which doesn't line up to me with how your read progression went when it was becoming clear Rayn wasn't an option today.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 11:06 GMT
#2142
On May 22 2019 19:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 21:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG BC is voting for me and I jsut bet you he never did open my filter.

That means he's voting for me on YOUR behalf bugs. Not that that's a problem for me. Just thought I'd mention it because while you think I'm scum I might as well act like scum.

I do intend to help this game, I said I'd sheep. I'll help with flip information, it's real easy. Don't lynch me over people who aren't playing that's fucking stupid and retarded. Why are you even considering that shit?


This one artanis

I don't see how that post makes it difficult for them to be scum together.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 11:07 GMT
#2144
On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote:
bleh. -.-

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On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder.


Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance

Two things I’d like you to explain:

1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum?

2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC

3. Where is disformation?

i am here. though tired and at work.
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On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop

Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi

Townish:
Raynpelikoneet

Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo

Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes

Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler

AMA.

bc: totes scum
calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote
disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif*

not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.-

Sorry buddy <3 wanting to lynch the Cobbler with me earns you townpoints, but I literally don't remember a single other thing you've really done this game. It kinda feels like you're being a cheerleader. Can you point me to some of your original thoughts this game?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 22 2019 11:08 GMT
#2145
And now I need to leave for work. I'll try to check in by phone here and there.
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