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On May 22 2019 01:09 Jockmcplop wrote: I join further games in the future when I've got a better grip of what's going on or if there's a newbie game with coaching. The confusion probably doesn't help. Frankly, the confusion never goes away in the early game. IMHO, its all about just (as town) turning yourself into a read-generator, by which I mean you need to do enough that other people can make reads of you. Every game starts out with 0 information, which is why players like rayn love to stir shit up early. Gets people talking, becoming read generators. There's still a ton of time left in today. Plenty of time to leave the thread, go do something else. Go for a walk or something, seriously. Check in towards the end of the day, see how you feel, ok? | ||
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On May 22 2019 01:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: And on that happy note, fuck you all for spamming this thread so much. I am still only playing 2 hours a day max and I can't read all this shit > : ( Seriously. I'm pretty close to petitioning for a vote for a post cap | ||
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Nice, lol | ||
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On May 22 2019 01:47 Holyflare wrote: Igrok are you going to expand on your post about me or just sit in the thread whittling down your limited hours? Not seen any real conclusion about anything. Is there anyone that you haven't accused of being mafia D1? | ||
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On May 21 2019 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: iGrok you said but wrote "thoughts" on people who are not disfo or ruxxar, before and after this post. and nothing on disfo & ruxxar. Frankly nothing that disinfo wrote stands out. I still don't have a single thing written down under "key moments" for them. Could be bored town, could be afk mafia, no idea. I think bugs made a pretty good case on rux in #1096. Also, I previously said to review #682 for rux. I meant to type #862, but it was 1am and I misread my own notes. Apologies. | ||
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Well I mean everyone else is and I don't want to be left out. BC is playing Thread Dad so I don't have to be the responsible one. :popcorn: | ||
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On May 22 2019 01:56 Holyflare wrote: What was this supposed to mean as well? Looks like you're giving yourself an out if it all goes wrong. The specific things I think you did that were good were: VE was aggroing me early, you attacked his reasoning but agreed with his conclusion. that reads as townie to me. Mostly everything else you've done is flip back and forth on people. Rayne, me, ve, calix, rux, jock, back to ve/rayne. And usually when you switch targets its when there looks like there is some momentum building against that person. | ||
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On May 22 2019 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fuck i really want to call iGrok town for that post hahahah ;D So good. Which? Also right now top scum read is HF and calix, followed by arty. least confident is BC/bugs, Key points on Calix: Calix HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good -Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more? Rux is maybe not scum because he is admitting to having trouble making reads and calix is also pushes rayn -#1247 honestly lots of true points about rayn but ones that I see as NAI because my memory of rayn's meta is palmar jr | ||
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On May 22 2019 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: wait it was ruxxars case........ Fucking LOL - but the tone of disinfo has me leaning town slightly. Only key point is that disinfo sees something reddish in BC. Wait, who all is anti BC? Artanis, disinfo, ruxxar? | ||
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On May 22 2019 02:14 Holyflare wrote: This is so surface level. What reasoning did I use to jump on these people when it was opportune that you did not like or that was not my own original thought? I've voted 2 people in this game even. Frankly the logic doesn't matter unless its either really good or really bad logic, and mostly your logic has been just OK. Actions and context are what matter, like steering conversation, who you target/interact with and the context, etc. And yours doesn't look good. Rayn early when he was pissing people off. then calling rayn passive. then me because I called rayn mafia, after I've said I would be afk for a while and am therefore an easier target. You pivoted to ruxxar as soon as they went after you, you pivoted to Jock when they first started looking demotivated... stuff like this, its not that you changed your mind but the context for when you changed your mind. Really feels like trying to set up momentum... any momentum. | ||
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But like, what am I supposed to base my reads off of if not your posts, my dude? | ||
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On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote: Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. | ||
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Rayn's early game felt completely like read-generation material. The bad VT claim, the aggression, the obvious fake claim (which almost everyone ignored, so... either good job to everyone for not buying it or horrible job for not even noticing it) - he did oversell it later, made it more obvious but like... He called HF on some nonsense, decided he had found some mafia and stopped playing as someone said - but honestly that is such a rayn thing to do from my memory. | ||
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