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On May 24 2019 22:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 24 2019 21:52 Holyflare wrote:On May 24 2019 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And where is this "comparable to Vivax in Titanic" - thing? (1)He has scum red VE for things he did in the early game but (2)VE never came up in any read list as being mafia and (3)in fact, iGrok said there were + points for VE (the meta on you and bugs and finding something nobody else did). Now you look at the image and see he has coloured things earlier than his read list as red! Why is (2) impossible as town if (1) and (3)? If you point me out to a case iGrok has made on VE that iGrok has made AFTER all (1),(2),(3) happened, that has only reasons before (1),(2),(3) then you have a case based on this. I will give you that. He literally posted an image of his reads my dude. VE is as red as they come in it, thus he thinks VE is mafia. 2) The points he scum reads VE for are highlighted in red. One of those is for scum reading you BUT he doesn't scum read me for the same thing AND this existed before his read list was posted of BC, Calix, Me, Ruxxar or whatever it was. 3) NONE of these + points appear in this read list whatsoever 1) These reasons existed all game before his reads list but only now is VE red for it.
this is really hard for me to comprehend rn because i cant see the image properly. i also need to go in about 15 mins. you might have a casre though, i will look at it i promise you whenever i am at home (aka tonight if not too drunk or tomorrow morning).
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I think i have openly claimed i haven't read large portions of the game after you "shat on me" and i got demotivated. It's also true i ahven't read almost anything iGrok has posted.
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I honestly still cant realize what those things say in iGrok's shit how much ever i ctrl+f:
+ Show Spoiler +
and this is not because my phone is bad...
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Idk why you do not kill Calix? 
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On May 25 2019 01:54 Koshi wrote:conv for Artanis.
Vote conv. My battery dies
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On May 25 2019 03:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2019 01:54 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2019 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Calix/conv/hf conv for Artanis. Vote conv. My battery dies No.
I am honestly no more hwre. Do somethibg????
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On May 25 2019 04:28 Koshi wrote:
I dont understand how this town is so divided. Cant believe it.
Its because we have HF and bugs.
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mhm then why is everyone voting not Calix?
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On May 25 2019 19:32 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mhm then why is everyone voting not Calix? Because you don't care enough to try and get people to vote Calix obviously. Instead everyone lynching iGrok because HF has a big huge case on him.
I've made my case already. Still dont think iGrko is mafia and HF case is not as strong as claims. Dfinitely not timeline case strong.
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On May 25 2019 19:37 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 19:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2019 19:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mhm then why is everyone voting not Calix? Because you don't care enough to try and get people to vote Calix obviously. Instead everyone lynching iGrok because HF has a big huge case on him. I've made my case already. Still dont think iGrko is mafia and HF case is not as strong as claims. Dfinitely not timeline case strong. Your case includes conclusions that I disagree with. For instance, the meta part of it, I come to the opposite conclusion you do about it. The game you linked indicates that Calix WOULD BE confident in her ability to TR HF correctly, not the opposite like you're claiming.
well then you probably vote for someone else.
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On May 22 2019 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 22:25 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2019 17:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 17:50 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 17:43 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
Personally, I think ruxxar was perfectly correct to call me mafia. I had a high burst of activity and then have completely waffled and disappeared as people get more active.
What I don't like is that it was opportunistic. He'd town read me before afaik, arbitrarily decided that between rayn and I that I somehow became mafia and then wrote the narrative on me.
He dropped all his other reads for that too. Essentially I'm the lynch bait currently and he took it. Who else is he supposed to push to look good other than a high profile sitting duck that people can't disagree with his read on? Why are you not responding to me I find this analysis weird though, why on earth do you think you’re the lynch bait here? If anything it’s Calix or disformation. I agree that it’s a scum vote but I think it’s more a vote in line with “if I vote HF here no one will believe I’d have the balls to do that as scum” because you weren’t on any radars and weren’t likely to be lynched given the vote spread He has consistently just disappeared after every short burst of activity and his “progressions” are just odd. As you pointed out he just completely dropped the Calix/conversion business; what happened to one of them being scum? He also had a set up into calling BC scum but dropped that too. No idea why he mentions rayn in his post on you either, just seems like a forced mention especially because rayn was nearly completely absent for 24 hours. Sorry what was I supposed to respond to? I am the perfect lynch bait. I could make a case on myself for being mafia. High activity poking on rayn to blow up into low activity keeping options open when everyone becomes active? I'm the mafia dream to push. Nobody can really argue with that. Push back on calix/conversion etc is all because they have blurred lines, nothing to sway one way or the other. Are you going to help kill ruxxar?? I honestly don’t think iGrok is scum here. Scum basically has to be in: Ruxxar VE rayn Koshi Almost everyone else has a few or loads of town points in favour Quoted for good laughs. We should keep a list on that: RuxxarVE rayn
Koshi
how do you think this list is going bugs?
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Koshi i think you should make people vote for Calix here. I fear she is never lynched after next night you die on with these people.
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Well you will not have my vote becaus Calix and Conversion are mafia and i don't know who the third one is.
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On May 25 2019 19:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn can I ask you why you're so unwilling to compromise in games? Like I get it, you like to be right and the only way to be proven right is to lynch your targets or whatever but like....if you can WIN the game and be right too, why not do that instead? This nonsense about being unwilling to help OTHERS in the game see what you see hurts towns man.
I have used endless amount of effort in convincing other people and compromising in games and all i have gotten from it is being called tunneled, stupid and other names -- except for from some specific people. It's not worth my time. I am here just to tell what i think, i don't care who gets lynched or if people believe me or not. I just vote for who i think is mafia.
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My points are in my filter. I am not gonna fabricate a case, you either believe or not believe what i wrote makes her mafia, that's it.
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On May 25 2019 20:08 VisceraEyes wrote:Because he's right, as far as Calix is concerned everyone lives happily ever after, but not Conv and that's another part of why I want rayn to engage with me. He seems certain about Conversion and Conversion actually followed through with the stuff he's pointing out there - the filtering of BC/Art/VE he talks about with Calix there he actually goes through with and makes conclusions based on what he saw. But it's like none of that matters to rayn and I want to know why.
But this isn't true. He never followed up like a townie should if he believes or is going to do what he originally wrote. He only followed up after the lynch when it doesnt matter anymore, during the time he was deciding who to lynch he gave zero shits and just voted for ruxxar despite even saying he is gonna do something else and look into all the places.
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