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On May 07 2019 02:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’M BAAAACK
Waiting on my bag now, so not much time.
I think the MZ null read on Koshi isn’t a huge deal. I myself was null on Koshi because I wanted to give time to see how his claim played out and whatnot, and only started scumreading after the HF flip. Even then it was just like, this guy is the scummiest of the people who are literally all afk, Meagan I don’t count really as afk cause he’s managed to post some stuff. Lots of stuff I don’t like but he posts nonetheless
It's less the null read the more the fact that he skipped over his nullread of Koshi in favor of throwing shade on his TOWNREAD of FF.
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Like he accused FF of 'conveniently jumping from wagon to wagon' but Koshi had literally done nothing in the game at all besides "sheep rayn" and....troll? idk, seems sketch af right now, especially in this late hour.
And remember like I said - the fact that Koshi died last night is important to consider. Whoever is left was under the impression that THEY WOULD HAVE KOSHI HERE TOMMORROW, and they were WRONG.
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yeah that’s fair. I should reread again since I didn’t get a chance to reread after the Koshi flip.
btw for now I would prefer a 48 hour day because without it I won’t really be able to give much thought to my votes. I’m gonna get 1-2 hours max (thankfully on PST time, probably evenings if I’m not dead tired over the next 3-4 days)
Last night I didn’t feel like FF nor Slam were scummy and today I’m fine with reading Pandain town. Lots of things Pandain has said over the game point to town Pandain with missing info, working to figure things out etc. Let me think about this more and reread, I’ll try to post thoughts when I have some spare time, probably later tn since I’m gonna try and make it to my hotel before 10 pm
On BC being killed I think there’s nothing really to read into there from a reads perspective because there was realistically no other shot that makes sense.
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also lollerskates my phone autocorrects Meapak to Meagan
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Uninspired Day 3 Vote Count
Meapak_Ziphh (3): Fecalfeast, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, Alakaslam
Grackaroni (1): wherebugsgo, Pandain, VisceraEyes
wherebugsgo (1): Grackaroni
Not voted (1): Meapak_Ziphh , wherebugsgo
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On May 07 2019 03:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
On BC being killed I think there’s nothing really to read into there from a reads perspective because there was realistically no other shot that makes sense.
I slowly came to that conclusion too. I started toying with "Well a VET just flipped, so chances are mafia didn't factor in a medic at all..." but I think you're right, I think it was just the only shot that they could take safely.
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On May 07 2019 03:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
I should reread again since I didn’t get a chance to reread after the Koshi flip.
I think this is the most important thing you can do. This will likely solve the game imo.
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On May 07 2019 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 22:13 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 03 2019 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
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do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why. I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF. Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later. ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town? I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from. just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore. On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.
Jock
Rels
FF
Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.
If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.
In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town
Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral
Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town. On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we. I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town. Koshi is null: On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory But I would love to get a follow on with that. Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum: On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled... okay, so just to clarify: 1. you're assuming I am scum 2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum 3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC? 4. Koshi is null/unreadable. 5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax. Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC. Jesus you are dense You have a red check backing up good analysis done by HF, of course I think you're scum Yes I have no idea how you got townish on BC, if anything I'd say scummish. The only reason you don't think I have a stance on BC is bc you're being obtuse. I think he made two very opportunistic posts and aside from that has done fuck all. Rels is probably scum before BC because of his TMI post but if by some godawful stroke of luck you are a miller and Pandain is also town then BC would be next up of most likely suspects in my eyes. Yes Yes Null reads Koshi here, late-like. I'm interested in why Koshi still reads as Null at this point in the game, but he's fine with even advocates Rels lynch over the first couple days. On May 03 2019 11:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 11:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
also why did you ignore FF? Probably town: On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear let's play, FF. Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise. Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself That's a good call right there and I agree with it. Also goes on to say that FF is town, provides reasoning. While he said he "wants followup from Koshi" on the Fefe shot, he never seems to press the matter. Koshi threatened to shoot a townread. Why Koshi still null bro? On May 04 2019 09:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch bu t I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit? What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up. Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies? I think you're just bouncing around to whatever wagon is the most convenient. Tell me why I shouldn't think that. WAIT JUST A GOD DAMN MOMENT!!!!!!!! Pandain, comment plz
I mean it's slightly suspicious, but Rels was different than Koshi in that Rels was doing absolutely nothing while at least the first day Koshi was contributing a little.
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Sorry pandain i passed out after my magic games
I'm aware of the post calling me a problem but honestly I'm happy with today's lynch and the order of lynches after that so I'm not sure what you want me to do. I did filter doves last night but like I said I had nothing new to say about them
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On May 07 2019 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 06:32 Pandain wrote:Was just about to post this. Definitely a plus for MZ and a negative for Grack. However, I want to point out that it's entirely possible they just shot him because he's a good player who was town. I actually think there's almost no chance mafia shot you because medic would protect you, so the question is who else would they shoot? Realistically only bugs and BC. They were clearly still aiming to put suspicion on wherebugsgo (as we see from Koshi's post) On May 06 2019 01:30 Koshi wrote:
Both hf and rayn pointed heavily at wbg. Probably not a bad bet for mafia. On May 03 2019 21:12 Koshi wrote:On May 03 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i think vivax + bugs + pandain is a reasonable option for mafia.
Murder Vivax please if he is not dead come D2. I read rayn filter and I will just be rayn 3.0. This is because Koshi = rayn 2.0 and now I absorbed rayn 1.0. They weren't ever going to shoot me since there was still some suspicion on me, and everyone else as well. So the best shot, even ignoring anything BC said and even if he was wrong on everything was still probably BC. There you go VE Useless shit speculation about why scum made such a dumbass shot
I don't think speculating on why someone got shot is ever the wrong thing to do after the night ends. In fact it's the most reasonable and pertinent thing to do.
Can you please give your thoughts on grack and FF? And are you just sheeping VE on MZ or do you actually have your own reasons?
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Wbg why no vote?
MZ i thought we were playing the cooperation game while you get lynched but you're also not voting
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On May 07 2019 04:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wbg why no vote?
MZ i thought we were playing the cooperation game while you get lynched but you're also not voting
OR cooperating.
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##vote Meapak_Ziphh
Let’s see you talk this one out Meapak
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Uninspired Day 3 Vote Count
Meapak_Ziphh (4): Fecalfeast, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, wherebugsgo
Grackaroni (1): wherebugsgo, Pandain, VisceraEyes
wherebugsgo (1): Grackaroni
Not voted (1): Meapak_Ziphh
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Well. Anyone NOT see Endgame yet?
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Maybe I start spoiling Endgame every hour I don't hear from MEAPAK.
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Bah that's probably toeing the "outside betting" line, I'll resist. Don't fuck with me though.
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On May 07 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 02:39 Alakaslam wrote:On May 06 2019 06:32 Pandain wrote:Was just about to post this. Definitely a plus for MZ and a negative for Grack. However, I want to point out that it's entirely possible they just shot him because he's a good player who was town. I actually think there's almost no chance mafia shot you because medic would protect you, so the question is who else would they shoot? Realistically only bugs and BC. They were clearly still aiming to put suspicion on wherebugsgo (as we see from Koshi's post) On May 06 2019 01:30 Koshi wrote:
Both hf and rayn pointed heavily at wbg. Probably not a bad bet for mafia. On May 03 2019 21:12 Koshi wrote:On May 03 2019 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i think vivax + bugs + pandain is a reasonable option for mafia.
Murder Vivax please if he is not dead come D2. I read rayn filter and I will just be rayn 3.0. This is because Koshi = rayn 2.0 and now I absorbed rayn 1.0. They weren't ever going to shoot me since there was still some suspicion on me, and everyone else as well. So the best shot, even ignoring anything BC said and even if he was wrong on everything was still probably BC. There you go VE Useless shit speculation about why scum made such a dumbass shot I don't think speculating on why someone got shot is ever the wrong thing to do after the night ends. In fact it's the most reasonable and pertinent thing to do. Can you please give your thoughts on grack and FF? And are you just sheeping VE on MZ or do you actually have your own reasons?
To add to this, I did the same thing, so did most everyone. Why single out Pandain as the villain?
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On May 07 2019 07:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well. Anyone NOT see Endgame yet?
I looked up the movies that are a part of endgames purview and I think I've seen 4 or 5 of them so spoil away I don't care
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I have been in a vault since 0600 central time VE I'm sorry, I just got home.
I still can't shake the feeling Grack is town which according to the town circle means I need to decide between slam and FF. I will focus there, for the record I still haven't been over BC so I'm gonna start with that first.
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