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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 02 2019 07:20 GMT
#471
I basically just assume HF is town every game now because the old boys seem to have a better way of reading him than I so I prefer to follow him on stuff until the suspicion that HF is playing me for a fool grows beyond my desire to not have to read HF.

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 02 2019 07:20 GMT
#472
I'm pretty sure I'm wrong on HF every time I try to read him myself
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 02 2019 20:29 GMT
#607
Hey I thought I was getting shot what gives
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 02 2019 22:07 GMT
#622
sheeping the big boys and also it seems obvious why igrok got replaced and vivax didn't there was 1 replacement and vivax always does this as scum so frick him
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 00:41 GMT
#698
On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear


let's play, FF.

Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise.

Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked

I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 18:37 GMT
#817
I would lynch rels
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 18:48 GMT
#822
Higher equity in that we're losing less of a voice in a dead pandain than in a dead bugs or you truly believe pandain is a higher probability scum?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 19:29 GMT
#833
##unvote
##vote pandain


k
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 21:44 GMT
#844
On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.

Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.

Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.

HOWEVER

In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game.


First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh.


Did you not get this bit?

What do you make of that VE?
Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly?


What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up.

Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 23:09 GMT
#868
man VE if you put this much effort into being scum this game I'm not sure if I want to give you props or pity you.


Having a tickle of doubt under my sheep's fur that pandain's lynch is going too easily but the possibility of an afk/uninspired maf team is high as well...

Who wants to lynch M_Z with me?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 23:09 GMT
#870
On May 04 2019 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did you see Fecalfeast fucking BODY MZ a bit ago btw? I recommend you try and start a counterwagon on MZ!

All these compliments make me uncomfortable
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 03 2019 23:42 GMT
#885
On May 04 2019 08:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 08:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On May 04 2019 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did you see Fecalfeast fucking BODY MZ a bit ago btw? I recommend you try and start a counterwagon on MZ!

All these compliments make me uncomfortable

I'm trying to encourage good play! I'll stop though.




Not that uncomfortable

It did work though, after I take the missus on a date here I may actually do a thing or two in this game, make some reads post some music you know like old times



maybe not though!
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 03:23 GMT
#975
On May 04 2019 11:35 Pandain wrote:
To summarize me on Jock:

I thought he was an okay lynch for day 1, not great but decent for day1. I was lukewarm about him and had more a gut read on rels (although that vibe more disappeared when it became clear rels was not lurking but just genuinely afk). At end of day, I became concerned with the complete lack or drive attempts away from jock which suggested to me he's town. I tried to switch to rels (who I was still not sold on but viewed it like an RNG lynch because he was essentially inactive) , but Rayn would only be down for vivax or bugs. I realized vivax was a great lynch and pushed for him.

Later I posted I think a couple mafia were maybe on Jock, this is because he was the lazy but decent day 1 choice . It didn't mean of course I thought everyone who voted him is suspicious but it does mean I thought scum would vote him too. This has been at least vindicated by vivax flipping.


I kinda hate this post. It sorta frames yesterday as being all about rayn and who rayn wanted to lynch when there was actually quite a bit of turbulence from what I can tell reading the end of day after the fact. Then trying to claim points for saying that a 'couple mafia were maybe on jock' as if anyone gives a shit about VCA that basically says 'I think maybe mafia had a hand in killing this towny!'

Two paragraphs that kinda boil down to "not my fault, remember how I scumread vivax?"
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 03:23 GMT
#976
On May 04 2019 09:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.

Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.

Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.

HOWEVER

In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game.


First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh.


Did you not get this bit?

What do you make of that VE?
Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly?


What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up.

Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies?

I think you're just bouncing around to whatever wagon is the most convenient. Tell me why I shouldn't think that.

I was never voting rels and stated him as a scumread before for similar reasons. I was on WBG because HF claimed a red check and when the red check was rescinded I sheeped HF and VE onto pandain (yes HF wasn't voting pandain yet but he did call pandain scum)

So even though you asked about rels and pandain, how is me sheeping the same person I sheeped earlier and the most townread player 'bouncing around to whatever wagon is convenient?'

On May 04 2019 11:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel like we're just letting Koshi slide. Do we just let that happen some more? When does it become offensive?

i say let him slide til he deviates from rayn 3.0

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 03:23 GMT
#977
I had the second post and meant to add the first post to the bottom of it but forgot and hit submit ohwell
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 04:24 GMT
#1012
On May 04 2019 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2019 12:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
On May 04 2019 11:35 Pandain wrote:
To summarize me on Jock:

I thought he was an okay lynch for day 1, not great but decent for day1. I was lukewarm about him and had more a gut read on rels (although that vibe more disappeared when it became clear rels was not lurking but just genuinely afk). At end of day, I became concerned with the complete lack or drive attempts away from jock which suggested to me he's town. I tried to switch to rels (who I was still not sold on but viewed it like an RNG lynch because he was essentially inactive) , but Rayn would only be down for vivax or bugs. I realized vivax was a great lynch and pushed for him.

Later I posted I think a couple mafia were maybe on Jock, this is because he was the lazy but decent day 1 choice . It didn't mean of course I thought everyone who voted him is suspicious but it does mean I thought scum would vote him too. This has been at least vindicated by vivax flipping.


I kinda hate this post. It sorta frames yesterday as being all about rayn and who rayn wanted to lynch when there was actually quite a bit of turbulence from what I can tell reading the end of day after the fact. Then trying to claim points for saying that a 'couple mafia were maybe on jock' as if anyone gives a shit about VCA that basically says 'I think maybe mafia had a hand in killing this towny!'

Two paragraphs that kinda boil down to "not my fault, remember how I scumread vivax?"


his summary is not inaccurate, just go back and read it from his perspective.

Say Pandain is town. He is not sold on Jock. He's around for lynch.

He asks anyone in the thread if they're up for a switch to Rels. rayn is around and says no, only Vivax or me. Pandain agrees with rayn on Vivax (but not me) so he switches to Vivax and tries to get shenanigans.

I think boiling this down to "I'm not scum because I scumread vivax" is oversimplistic.

fair enough I didn't filter anything I just talked about the post in a vacuum. That said I still don't like the post.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 04:26 GMT
#1013
Fuck I mean part of always townreading HF is that I actually really want to lynch him every game just because
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 05:15 GMT
#1019
heh VE we the same scummy level
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 05:59 GMT
#1025
Not rly but I'll wait to change my vote for hopes of a good hf post to set me at ease. Deadline is 1pm for me so I'll be here for sure and probably for a number of hours from now
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 04 2019 08:27 GMT
#1035
hi HF what u got
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