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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 00:54 GMT
#1201
On April 06 2019 07:00 Onegu wrote:
Fibonacci Mafia - Day One


The year is 1202. The great maritime Republic of Pisa is ground zero for a revolutionary new book. Liber Abacci, written by your own Leonardo Bonacci of Pisa (Fibonacci), presents the Hindu-Arabic numerals as a more precise numbering system for measurements and conversions. The famed Fibonacci numbers are just one example of his point.

While the book stirs up discussion among the elite and intellectuals of Pisa, rumors of operatives from the rival Republic of Genoa come to Pisa to sow discord abound. Your mission as loyal citizens of Pisa is to root out this evil weed before it can poison the whole Republic!
In case anyone else didn't realise it appears that Genoa is mafia

According to Wiki: Genoa and Pisa were Martime Republics at war during the early 13th century.

Both Genoa and Pisa were allies of the Byzantine (read: Roman empire). However, given Fibonacci is home based in Pisa, and the multiple thread references to Roman and town, I will presume that only Pisa infers Roman.


On April 06 2019 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Fucking Genoa amirite?
I'm probably nitpicking but I find it odd KSC could fixate on this off the bat. Maybe hes a more critical reader than me, who knows.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 08 2019 01:00 GMT
#1202
On April 08 2019 09:54 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:00 Onegu wrote:
Fibonacci Mafia - Day One


The year is 1202. The great maritime Republic of Pisa is ground zero for a revolutionary new book. Liber Abacci, written by your own Leonardo Bonacci of Pisa (Fibonacci), presents the Hindu-Arabic numerals as a more precise numbering system for measurements and conversions. The famed Fibonacci numbers are just one example of his point.

While the book stirs up discussion among the elite and intellectuals of Pisa, rumors of operatives from the rival Republic of Genoa come to Pisa to sow discord abound. Your mission as loyal citizens of Pisa is to root out this evil weed before it can poison the whole Republic!
In case anyone else didn't realise it appears that Genoa is mafia

According to Wiki: Genoa and Pisa were Martime Republics at war during the early 13th century.

Both Genoa and Pisa were allies of the Byzantine (read: Roman empire). However, given Fibonacci is home based in Pisa, and the multiple thread references to Roman and town, I will presume that only Pisa infers Roman.


Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Fucking Genoa amirite?
I'm probably nitpicking but I find it odd KSC could fixate on this off the bat. Maybe hes a more critical reader than me, who knows.

KSC was always a good D1 lynch regardless of this info.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 01:04 GMT
#1203
On April 06 2019 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 06 2019 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
imagine being in a themed game and not having a proper role

+1

Lets make a roman pact?

Is a Roman pact special in anyway or just like a normal pact except you occasionally murder Christians?
I'm in either way.
Two Hindu assassins?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 08 2019 01:06 GMT
#1204
On April 08 2019 09:54 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:00 Onegu wrote:
Fibonacci Mafia - Day One


The year is 1202. The great maritime Republic of Pisa is ground zero for a revolutionary new book. Liber Abacci, written by your own Leonardo Bonacci of Pisa (Fibonacci), presents the Hindu-Arabic numerals as a more precise numbering system for measurements and conversions. The famed Fibonacci numbers are just one example of his point.

While the book stirs up discussion among the elite and intellectuals of Pisa, rumors of operatives from the rival Republic of Genoa come to Pisa to sow discord abound. Your mission as loyal citizens of Pisa is to root out this evil weed before it can poison the whole Republic!
In case anyone else didn't realise it appears that Genoa is mafia

According to Wiki: Genoa and Pisa were Martime Republics at war during the early 13th century.

Both Genoa and Pisa were allies of the Byzantine (read: Roman empire). However, given Fibonacci is home based in Pisa, and the multiple thread references to Roman and town, I will presume that only Pisa infers Roman.


Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Fucking Genoa amirite?
I'm probably nitpicking but I find it odd KSC could fixate on this off the bat. Maybe hes a more critical reader than me, who knows.

When Fibonacci published Liber Abaci in 1202, the Roman Empire was busy getting beat up by Turks and the Fourth Crusade that shattered it into pieces (temporarily) was only two years away. I'm guessing "Roman" can refer to two things tops:

1. The Roman numerals, i.e. the ones Italy and Europe were using before Hindu-Arabic numerals displaced them for most purposes
2. Rome, i.e. the Papal States. I highly doubt we've got a papacy or some third city here but maybe that's just me. I don't think Fibonacci had any trouble with the Pope. The numeral factions make sense, and the city wars make sense, but Rome doesn't really factor into either of those.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 08 2019 01:07 GMT
#1205
I'm going to reread the MZ wagon building. I agreed with HF's read that MZ was phoning it in, which means I need to go back with a fresh mind and look at that piece again. And the one after it.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 01:09 GMT
#1206
On April 06 2019 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like this is a 10 faction game or some shit and I'm just sitting here with something that is completely anti town despite actually being town
hmmmmm

KSC/HF/MZ + someone else , all assassins?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 01:20 GMT
#1207
I cant shake a feeling that the assassins role is to cull mafia that has infiltrated Roman/Hindu factions.
Infiltrate refers to a Genoan cultist.

The main problem i see with this is that balance SUCKS if a cultist finds an assassin.
Its a huge snowball blow against town.

Ohhh yeah
and that 4th assassin is damdred.. cant beleive i forgot lol
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2019 01:22 GMT
#1208
Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed.
You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 01:31 GMT
#1209
On April 08 2019 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed.
You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter.
What?

Your alt-win is elimination of an entire faction?






raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2019 01:38 GMT
#1210
No just the hindu-arabic council which apparently is LS+Damdred+Grackaroni+Ewya (with one of them lying and probably mafia).
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2019 01:40 GMT
#1211
On April 08 2019 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed.
You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter.

If one of them is lying than it's Eywa I guessing?? Waiting to see if Damdred going to hard claim Hindu/Arabic mathematician.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2019 01:41 GMT
#1212
Like I can only recruit Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a qt that's it. My role is useless outside of that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2019 01:43 GMT
#1213
On April 08 2019 10:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I can only recruit Hindu/Arabic mathematicians into a qt that's it. My role is useless outside of that.

well if that's what you're claiming then i think you are lying but that doesn't really matter because you're dead before D2 anyways.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 01:45 GMT
#1214
On April 08 2019 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No just the hindu-arabic council which apparently is LS+Damdred+Grackaroni+Ewya (with one of them lying and probably mafia).
LOl.. So im interpretting that as an entire faction.

Reading between the lines, you are a faction (Roman) but not council. Which is why you are discriminating/selective?

This game is so weird.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2019 01:45 GMT
#1215
On March 30 2019 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am always aligned with jockmcplop, and VE. Just to know.

I am hoping these are the rest of Roman council because it would be super funny.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2019 01:52 GMT
#1216
For reals though i think everyone who come out as clueless of what me and Damdred were talking about are probably mafia. That would be Vivax, Mocsta and Kelsier to some extent. Palmar probably just didn't read and if he is mafia him wanting to lynch Damdred doesn't really make any sense because Damdred is anti-town and works for him because LS is stubborn and acts like he does (aka only wants to recruit people he needs to and not even consider their alignments).
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 01:59 GMT
#1217
On April 08 2019 10:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For reals though i think everyone who come out as clueless of what me and Damdred were talking about are probably mafia. That would be Vivax, Mocsta and Kelsier to some extent. Palmar probably just didn't read and if he is mafia him wanting to lynch Damdred doesn't really make any sense because Damdred is anti-town and works for him because LS is stubborn and acts like he does (aka only wants to recruit people he needs to and not even consider their alignments).
you're not making sense.

The only people who knew the assassin role was legit before p57 were the assassins...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 02:01 GMT
#1218
On April 06 2019 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
mafia are grack and damdred so far

disfo possibly 3rd

damdred might just be 3rd party and not mafia though
dunno if HF says this, if he + damdred are both assassins.

based on rayn info, it seems there is an addition role which is seeking council elimination.

Rayn/HF are probably both that.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
April 08 2019 02:18 GMT
#1219
On April 06 2019 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont think i will be explaining much of my reads this game. Well at least no tonight lol.

I just think the level of caring or pretending of caring from holyflare atm makes him mafia. Also ls is town but he needs to die i think or we just dont care about the alternative wincons but i dont think people can agree to that (they can say they do but still dont which os going to be stupid).
I have a problem

At this point, all LS said was that he was looking for mathematicians.
LS has *NEVER* stated he was on a Hindu Council
Even towards the end of D1, all LS said is that he is a recruiter.


yet, I refer to Rayn
On April 08 2019 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed.
You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter.
On April 08 2019 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
What?

Your alt-win is elimination of an entire faction?
On April 08 2019 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No just the hindu-arabic council which apparently is LS+Damdred+Grackaroni+Ewya (with one of them lying and probably mafia).
Can Rayn really believe LS is on a "council"? I doubt it, Rayn is lying...

I just am not sure why.


raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2019 02:26 GMT
#1220
I just read MZ's role and put 1+1 together. Apparently you can't do that.
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