Sentinel had a bit going into the game and kept with it for way too long, to the point he did nothing useful on day 1 because he was doing his bit.

Wonder where we've seen sentinel hide behind a gimmick as mafia before?

Also, his last minute voteswitch has a few implications. Did he know he was too late? Clocks aren't a hard thing to work. I always find it very unrealistic people miss deadlines accidentally.

Or maybe I'm just wrong on Damdred.

Who knows

Palmar

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April 08 2019 11:50 GMT

#1293

Actually all the people who threw their votes away look bad. Vivax has been super underwhelming compared to being the smartest person in town last game.

It's also pretty likely the people who voted with me on Damdred are basically all or mostly town.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 08 2019 11:50 GMT

#1295

Well second smartest

Palmar

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April 08 2019 11:57 GMT

#1298

On April 08 2019 20:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
Palmar did you have any reads on anyone except Damdred?

Yeah, I can make a list

Townreads
tubesock

Weak town
eywa
pandain
Jock
FF
disfo
tumblewood

No idea/haven't read
Grack
rayn
VE
KelsierSC
LS
Mocsta

Don't read on principle
HF
Slam

maybe mafia
Mig
Vivax

scumreads
Damdred
Sentinel

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 08 2019 11:57 GMT

#1300

On April 08 2019 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am like 90% sure Damdred can't be mafia.

Based on roles or reads?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 08 2019 11:59 GMT

#1301

I'm still behind on the game, we started on a weekend.

I also very often randomly assign some mafias townreads for like stupid little things so don't just lynch up my list but still.

I think I have a grasp of the game.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 08 2019 12:06 GMT

#1304

On April 08 2019 21:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
So Palmar you think we should be pushing to get rid of lurkers and low activity players?

I would agree with that actually. Sent looks undeniably scummy.

Yes, of course.

Vigis need to shoot into the trash, because the trash will not become more readable as the game goes on. The same reason you take out trash with the Day 1 lynch.

It is greatly advantageous to town if every player in the game is talking and interacting.

Now, on day 2 there might be information based on night actions and flips so far, so that's when you should start thinking about lynching higher activity mafia if we have good cases or evidence. Defaulting to lynching a lurker on day 2 is fine, but it's not like day 1 with no information. You should be trying to lynch scum wherever you can find it on day 2.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 08 2019 12:08 GMT

#1306

On April 08 2019 21:00 Jockmcplop wrote:

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On April 08 2019 20:57 disformation wrote:

On April 08 2019 20:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Posts where mocsta mentioned Vivax:

On April 08 2019 17:39 Mocsta wrote:

On April 08 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:

On April 08 2019 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Think disfo might be mafia based on mechanics though potentially

I don't know how you arrived at this tbh

+1 i need some prompting there

I think Sentinel looks terrible too

Its a poor heuristic I know, but in particular, I expect more from a town!sentinel following the shit show from last game.

mig has done enough im content to put him in a leave it till later pile.
I can see a town world where he doesnt think he has town!cred so is happy just being a "voice of reason"

im iffy about tubesock.
in my summary notes i oneworded him as "aloof".
Not scummy per se, but not town either.

Im still happy to get rid of Vivax

Palmar is like mig. wait it n see. No more weekend lazy excuses either.

i need to reread rayn/eywa before settling on an opinion. Even after the multiple pages devoted to that setup talk, im still not entirely sure why Eywa thinks his alt-con is to be recruited by mafia.
in short, from my first read, I wasnt sure what he was stating was fact of role pm vs his interpretation.

On April 07 2019 23:46 Mocsta wrote:
Palmar vivax mafia

Mig maybe mafia

Mz obtuse like last game. Maybe actually town. Could lynch just to get rid of headache.

I forgot about ksc. No idea

Goinf to bed

Going to settle on vivax
##vote: vivax

That's all from his entire filter.
What a shitty vote. No reasoning, no purpose.

beentheredonethat

On April 08 2019 06:27 disformation wrote:
bleh. slight headache isnt helping.
hf mentioned mocsta and i did a look at that filter.
also another meh.
like this is the first and only mention of vivix in his filter:

maybe i should stop trying to figure out everyone at once and go one person at a time like plammar.

Oh ok sorry didn't see that.
Its a valid point though mocsta looks a little bit scummy from that imo.

I really like Tubesock's filter. His take on Mocsta was pretty good.

On April 08 2019 03:28 Tubesock wrote:

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I’m townreading Mocsta. Mostly for his entrance and when he talked to me. Yes wanting to lynch town to get rid of headache is bad. I think I’d have to search a lot of games to find one where a mafia said that though. To me it’s NAI.

I need to actually read Mocsta's filter before making a conclusion but he was also talking shit to me during the day which didn't sound malicious, just a bit daft.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 09 2019 17:54 GMT

#1840

Im sick as a dog.

Not doing anything today

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 09 2019 17:58 GMT

#1844

On April 10 2019 02:55 disformation wrote:

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did you get a message?!

Yes

I don’t get it though.

Palmar

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April 09 2019 18:03 GMT

#1854

On April 10 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:

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Give us the clue

Should this be public info?

I have not read anything so I have no context

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 09 2019 18:05 GMT

#1858

Dear Pythagoras,

The man you seek is amongst those who voted for Damdred in the final vote count.

Your faithful PI

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 09 2019 18:06 GMT

#1859

Again I’m not Pythagoras, I’m not seeking anyone in this sense and I have no idea who PI is

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 09 2019 18:10 GMT

#1866

On April 10 2019 03:09 Holyflare wrote:

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I'm gonna say this is a lie

It’s not, but why?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 10 2019 09:39 GMT

#2316

I have no idea what's going on and I don't understand anything.

I think it's kinda scummy HF immediately accused me of lying about my PM. I don't know how or why I would lie about it even if I was mafia. I don't know how having that PM benefits me as either alignment. What I do know is I didn't lie and that was completely uncalled for shitflinging by HF.

Other than that I have no new reads.

Can someone just... explain what's going on?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 10 2019 09:55 GMT

#2317

Do I just claim my role?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 10 2019 10:43 GMT

#2323

I'm a diplomat.

No alternate win condition, only with town.

I can protect a person from being recruited by any faction at night.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 10 2019 10:48 GMT

#2326

On April 10 2019 19:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh ya don't forget to change y'alls bookmarks, we're tl.net now!

yeah it's great, blocked as "pornography" here at work.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

April 10 2019 10:52 GMT

#2328

On April 10 2019 19:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a "Gambling Site" here. Like, and who do you even talk to about that shit?

Well in my case I just unblock it, I'm the network engineer at this place.

I protected rayn with my thing. I don't get any confirmation if it did anything. The role seems underwhelming in general.