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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 24 2019 15:44 GMT
#53
/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 06 2019 12:27 GMT
#457
Hi

I have not read the thread.

I am looking for friends.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 06 2019 12:31 GMT
#458
I'll be very slow today, should have more time tomorrow (that is latter half of day 1)
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 06 2019 13:59 GMT
#482
On April 06 2019 08:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like this is a 10 faction game or some shit and I'm just sitting here with something that is completely anti town despite actually being town


Isn't that the way you play normally anyway?

Holy shit lol
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 10:07 GMT
#684
I kinda like the fact FF did a 180 on his read on LS.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 10:15 GMT
#685
I really dislike the fact that while Damdred decided to drop a bunch of speculation about the game setup that I hate anyway, he didn't find the time to post even a single relevant post about his actual reads. Posting about role stuff is just another way of not posting at all, especially since he hasn't bothered to actually explain anything.

Also I haven't read rayn's filter, but I found it strange that he basically assumed rayn is town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 10:29 GMT
#687
I'm not lynching jock btw, he gets a day pass for destroying hf
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 10:43 GMT
#689
To clarify about Damdred.

If I'm to accept his posts at face value, I'd have to believe he has found a way to read rayn as town pretty strongly, in addition to believing he has an anti-town (ie: killing townies, because he thinks rayn is town) secondary win condition and in addition that he chose to reveal that win condition.

Aside from the fact that secondary win conditions are both rare and terrible, even if Damdred has one his optimal play as town is to just play like town and shut up about it. There is absolutely no benefit for Damdred to reveal having objectives outside of killing mafia as town.

I don't believe him.

What I think happened is Damdred is positioning himself to play as 3rd party, ie, he wants us to think he's a neutral 3rd party faction. Mafia does this all the time, it's better to be perceived as a 3rd party working on your own objectives than as mafia. Town doesn't have the same problem because it's even better to be perceived as town than 3rd party.

I don't believe him, I think he's scum.

His best excuse would probably just be that he's trolling and none of this stuff is real.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 10:46 GMT
#690
On April 07 2019 19:37 Mocsta wrote:
Hf

Shall we do palmar day1 two games in a row?

Way ahead of you, already working under the assumption the combined weight of idiocy is greater than my strength.

The only regret I have is hosts should be murdered for starting games on weekends. I really don't have time for this.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:10 GMT
#728
On April 07 2019 21:38 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 07 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote:
@Mocsta I'm never going to lynch someone based on Meta. Last game literally everyone was off about everyone, and it was in very large part to people being very confident they could "read" people based on playstyle. Furthermore, any competent player (as mafia or town) should be able to diversify their play. And palmar is definitely not stupid.

Palmar could be mafia, but I like his posts enough that he should definitely not be lynched today.


Which posts do you like from Palmar that aren't just rehashes of previously talked about topics?

Me saying things is just so much better than other people saying things. Not to mention the fact that you’re probably gonna waffle off all your good reads anyway.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:17 GMT
#731
On April 07 2019 20:17 Mocsta wrote:
Secondly, I agree with Palmar that alt-win con should not cloud the thread, yet, he seemingly is oblivious/ignorant that several others, not just Damdred, have raised alt win-con.


Did they? I admit I'm far from done with reading through the thread, but which other players have claimed alternative win con?

On April 07 2019 20:17 Mocsta wrote:
"I don't believe him" , whilst 'true from Palmar PoV' is the easy/lazy position for him to push... you tell me.
Is easy/lazy more likely to town!palmar, or scum!palmar.


You're missing the point. It's not just that I don't believe his actions make sense, I'm trying to demonstrate that no one should believe him.

The case can be summed up in two points.

1) Damdred didn't post anything that looked like reading the game, just mechanics and role stuff.

2) Damdred's role stuff positions him to act as 3p. The only people who GAIN by being perceived as 3p are mafia.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:19 GMT
#732
Mig's filter is really bad as well. It's essentially an afk filter.

I would complain he hasn't followed up his VE read at all but he's literally not been in the thread.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:19 GMT
#733
On April 07 2019 22:14 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 22:10 Tubesock wrote:
Mocsta, did Palmar even post before you posted you wanted to kill him?

Looks too much like you’re just looking for any reason you can find to lynch him. He should basically be null if anything.
How do you foresee me responding to this?

Its all backhand slaps, yeah....

Your first point is so off the mark I'm in shock, and your second point should tend towards a scum read on me.

Tell the truth please.. did you even read what I wrote?

tbf I wouldn't really blame anyone for mostly skimming your stuff.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:24 GMT
#736
On April 07 2019 22:21 Vivax wrote:
MZ wagon doesn't really convince me. Feel like there is a bunch of opportunists hopping on. Naming disfo and Slam.

It's kinda scummy that you haven't yet told everyone how smart I am
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:32 GMT
#741
On April 07 2019 22:25 Pandain wrote:
RE: Damdred

Show nested quote +
1) Damdred didn't post anything that looked like reading the game, just mechanics and role stuff.


Sure, but he hasn't been around since early day 1. That should be expected early day 1

Show nested quote +
2) Damdred's role stuff positions him to act as 3p. The only people who GAIN by being perceived as 3p are mafia.


Sure, you're right, but just because it positions him to act as 3p in no way means that he intentionally is aiming for that. You're reading a possible explanation as the most likely explanation. He could have information in his role pm suggesting third parties, or he could just be extrapolating based on what people are saying and the theme of the game.


Your defense amounts to "he might post more later" and "he might have meant something else".

So vote him and when he shows up suddenly making everything crystal clear we'll just unvote him, right?

Great plan Palmar, really good.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:35 GMT
#742
On April 07 2019 22:25 Mocsta wrote:
Palmar #731
First ctrl+F i found
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2019 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am town but i have some win conditions i have no way of knowing how to achieve them so idc.
I believe i am town because it says so in my role pm.


I noted your points on Damdred, and I just don't think that holds in a closed THEMED game on Day1.
At worst he should be put on alert for a Day2 or 3 lynch.


Sure, but it seems to me that this one doesn't involve killing people you claim to think are town.

Also you said several, show me more please.

I don't want to lynch Damdred because he has an alternate win con. I want to kill him because I can't understand the logic from a town point of view in how he deals with it, meaning I don't believe he's telling the truth.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:42 GMT
#746
you should vote damdred disfo.

Pandain says everything will be fine later anyway, so might as well give me my wagon.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:43 GMT
#749
On April 07 2019 22:42 Vivax wrote:
Disfos filter feels like 100 % waffle coupled with going for a bunch of people according to sentiment.

it's ok though he's gonna be a good sheep and do as I say.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:44 GMT
#750
On April 07 2019 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
His nickname is literally wafflemation

If you're claiming you made the damdred point before me, maybe stick to it this time?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2019 13:44 GMT
#751
I'll give you a solid 15% of the credit
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