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On April 08 2019 07:24 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 07:16 LightningStrike wrote:
I claimed just to clear up the stuff regarding my stuff about trying to find the Hindu/Arabic Mathematicians. I had forgotted it was you who claimed and I forgive you. If the assassin is town then either the roman recruiter is mafia or the assassin has an anti-town win condition. To me this seems like there may not be a traditional mafia faction as it would be sort of lame to have 2 town factions fighting eachother. The inclusion of the fact that the assassin 'wins with town' in it's rolepm, coupled with the fact that rayn was so blatant about claiming roman, makes me think that there is a cultist or some other converting role in this game and that we should stop worrying about factions. LS said onegu told him he is not removed from the game when he acheives his wincon, nor does the assassin's role pm state that he is removed from the game. The real game is to figure out who does NOT have 'wins with town' in their role PM and keep the number of people that still DO 'win with town' as high as possible. This.....
Totally ties in with the element of town recruiting as well & Fibonacci growth
I assume the balance element is that, the cultist cannot recruit Roman/Hindo people.
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On April 08 2019 08:21 disformation wrote:
Wasn't damdred Hindu too? Dunno, I havent read the game since last night. so circa p41.
I went to check lynch and was intrigued by the role as it was purporting a similar issue that Damdred raised.
Anyhow, this pinged me to check damdred filter to see what he posted in the last 8hrs... to my surprise: nothing.
Going back to "is damdred hindu?"
Damdred 3 faction comment is fair - He knew he is Faction A, with alt-win con to hit faction B. and it is reasonable to assume there is at least faction C = mafia or vanilla
The "LS hi we can be friends" is funny in hindsight as that may be his alt-win con standing proud in the savanna lol
#315 is what cements damdred as town for me, this is VERY similar to the MZ role
On April 06 2019 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Heres the thing, I know town obviously has sub factions in it that wants the other sub factions to die.
For instance rayn needs me to die, I need rayn to die.
But we both more than likely win with town, personally speaking I value a general win more than a personal win.
LS I do t want to ever die.
It doesnt matter who damdred claims needs to die - because aside from LS, it is likely there is an element of bluff within the other claims.
On April 06 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:
Also if we have three factions with part of town having sub win conditions that have to eliminate a third party why for example would Roman's show themselves so early This is also written as if he could be referring to himself
I will stick with Damred = Roman Assassin
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On April 08 2019 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
think mocsta has a very decent chance at being mafia after that mz flip im as mafia as you broski.
just cos you lead mislynch after mislynch after mislynch doesnt make everyone else mafia.
I laid it out clear for you. MZ naturally plays scummy. It was a valid concern I raised that *YOU* ignored.
Now, get out the fuck outta here calling me scum, sson 
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On April 06 2019 07:00 Onegu wrote:Fibonacci Mafia - Day One The year is 1202. The great maritime Republic of Pisa is ground zero for a revolutionary new book. Liber Abacci, written by your own Leonardo Bonacci of Pisa (Fibonacci), presents the Hindu-Arabic numerals as a more precise numbering system for measurements and conversions. The famed Fibonacci numbers are just one example of his point.
While the book stirs up discussion among the elite and intellectuals of Pisa, rumors of operatives from the rival Republic of Genoa come to Pisa to sow discord abound. Your mission as loyal citizens of Pisa is to root out this evil weed before it can poison the whole Republic! In case anyone else didn't realise it appears that Genoa is mafia
According to Wiki: Genoa and Pisa were Martime Republics at war during the early 13th century.
Both Genoa and Pisa were allies of the Byzantine (read: Roman empire). However, given Fibonacci is home based in Pisa, and the multiple thread references to Roman and town, I will presume that only Pisa infers Roman.
On April 06 2019 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Fucking Genoa amirite? I'm probably nitpicking but I find it odd KSC could fixate on this off the bat. Maybe hes a more critical reader than me, who knows.
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On April 06 2019 07:37 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2019 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 06 2019 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
imagine being in a themed game and not having a proper role +1 Lets make a roman pact? Is a Roman pact special in anyway or just like a normal pact except you occasionally murder Christians? I'm in either way. Two Hindu assassins?
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On April 06 2019 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like this is a 10 faction game or some shit and I'm just sitting here with something that is completely anti town despite actually being town hmmmmm
KSC/HF/MZ + someone else , all assassins?
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I cant shake a feeling that the assassins role is to cull mafia that has infiltrated Roman/Hindu factions.
Infiltrate refers to a Genoan cultist.
The main problem i see with this is that balance SUCKS if a cultist finds an assassin.
Its a huge snowball blow against town.
Ohhh yeah
and that 4th assassin is damdred.. cant beleive i forgot lol
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On April 08 2019 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed. You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter. What?
Your alt-win is elimination of an entire faction?
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On April 08 2019 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No just the hindu-arabic council which apparently is LS+Damdred+Grackaroni+Ewya (with one of them lying and probably mafia). LOl.. So im interpretting that as an entire faction.
Reading between the lines, you are a faction (Roman) but not council. Which is why you are discriminating/selective?
This game is so weird.
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On April 08 2019 10:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For reals though i think everyone who come out as clueless of what me and Damdred were talking about are probably mafia. That would be Vivax, Mocsta and Kelsier to some extent. Palmar probably just didn't read and if he is mafia him wanting to lynch Damdred doesn't really make any sense because Damdred is anti-town and works for him because LS is stubborn and acts like he does (aka only wants to recruit people he needs to and not even consider their alignments). you're not making sense.
The only people who knew the assassin role was legit before p57 were the assassins...
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On April 06 2019 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
mafia are grack and damdred so far
disfo possibly 3rd
damdred might just be 3rd party and not mafia though dunno if HF says this, if he + damdred are both assassins.
based on rayn info, it seems there is an addition role which is seeking council elimination.
Rayn/HF are probably both that.
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On April 06 2019 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:I dont think i will be explaining much of my reads this game. Well at least no tonight lol. I just think the level of caring or pretending of caring from holyflare atm makes him mafia. Also ls is town but he needs to die i think or we just dont care about the alternative wincons but i dont think people can agree to that (they can say they do but still dont which os going to be stupid). I have a problem
At this point, all LS said was that he was looking for mathematicians.
LS has *NEVER* stated he was on a Hindu Council
Even towards the end of D1, all LS said is that he is a recruiter.
yet, I refer to Rayn
On April 08 2019 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Well mr. Roman assassin i think you should know what to do since the people you need to kill have all claimed. You can win with killin LS and i am now gonna pretend i have all townies best interest at heart; then we can figure out which of those people are lying since LS claims he needs to recruit 2 people and 3 people are saying they need to get recruited by LS. I obviously win when we kill those people but that's a point that doesn't matter. On April 08 2019 10:31 Mocsta wrote:
What?
Your alt-win is elimination of an entire faction? On April 08 2019 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No just the hindu-arabic council which apparently is LS+Damdred+Grackaroni+Ewya (with one of them lying and probably mafia). Can Rayn really believe LS is on a "council"? I doubt it, Rayn is lying...
I just am not sure why.
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Lol
Mz role came out 40ish hours later.....
The post i quotes u from is early day1 bruh...
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On April 07 2019 04:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Aight I'm caught up. People who are townreading LS right now, I want solid concrete reasons for it. In my opinion he has had several TMI posts. i dont like shitting on the dead, but this is SO FUCKING RETARDED i couldnt resist.
Hes an assassin looking for a Roman recruiter.
LS opens by saying he wants to befriend Hindu "XYZ"
Like it should click they are same faction at this point.... man lol
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The worse part is he has the audacity to call me scum when literally he did not admit he was crapshooting himself...
On April 07 2019 21:51 Mocsta wrote:
ok. SO MY LAST hurdle for MZ is that I have low confidence to read him.. i mean, last game I thought he was lock scum at the end...
Are you confidently crapshooting with MZ, or actually think hes lock scum?
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On April 08 2019 16:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 10:09 Mocsta wrote:On April 06 2019 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like this is a 10 faction game or some shit and I'm just sitting here with something that is completely anti town despite actually being town hmmmmm KSC/HF/MZ + someone else , all assassins? I've already full claimed my role. Don't be dense. yeah i realised after
im fully caught up now
you are lock town for me, s'all good
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On April 08 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Think disfo might be mafia based on mechanics though potentially I don't know how you arrived at this tbh +1 i need some prompting there
I think Sentinel looks terrible too
Its a poor heuristic I know, but in particular, I expect more from a town!sentinel following the shit show from last game.
mig has done enough im content to put him in a leave it till later pile.
I can see a town world where he doesnt think he has town!cred so is happy just being a "voice of reason"
im iffy about tubesock.
in my summary notes i oneworded him as "aloof".
Not scummy per se, but not town either.
Im still happy to get rid of Vivax
Palmar is like mig. wait it n see. No more weekend lazy excuses either.
i need to reread rayn/eywa before settling on an opinion. Even after the multiple pages devoted to that setup talk, im still not entirely sure why Eywa thinks his alt-con is to be recruited by mafia.
in short, from my first read, I wasnt sure what he was stating was fact of role pm vs his interpretation.
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You're hilarious HF.
I don't know why I even bother with you.
Every single game...
BTW. get your facts straight
You were the one berating me first
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lol.. and me + palmar on the same scum team..
you have to be stoned right now.. i cant believe that came out of your mouth.
Quite insulting actually.
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On April 08 2019 17:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2019 17:41 Mocsta wrote:
You're hilarious HF.
I don't know why I even bother with you.
Every single game...
BTW. get your facts straight
You were the one berating me first Berating you where? You went straight to me.....
On April 08 2019 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
think mocsta has a very decent chance at being mafia after that mz flip
Move on now
Im town.
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