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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 06 2019 22:55 GMT
#581
I'm not changing my vote from FF until he does something pro-town.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 06 2019 23:37 GMT
#597
Scum:
Erya
FF

For reasons I've already given.

Scumlean:
LS - Wants to defend FF who has done nothing for town. Why?
Disinfo

Inactive:
TS
Mig
Sent
Palmar
Mocsta



Neutral:
Grack
VE
Kelsier
Vivax
slam

These guys are either scumhunting or putting the appearance of scumhunting but i have no read on them yet.

Town:
Rayn
MZ
TW


Townreading these guys but don't wanna give too much away as to why. You can guess from their posts if you think about it.


Townlean:
Pandain

Same as above but less so.


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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 06 2019 23:43 GMT
#600
I missed hf off that list he's neutral atm I don't know how to read him tbh.
Also damdred is a scum lean he's done nothing townie at all yet but at least looks like he's trying to figure out the setup.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 06 2019 23:46 GMT
#601
haha yeah sorry hf I didn't check very thoroughly before i posted.

Pandain seemed to be on to something that the other townies were on to, but he only mentioned it after they did so he's not 100%.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 07 2019 00:00 GMT
#605
On April 07 2019 08:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I disagree. This is different

In what way is it different? I don't see a difference.
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2019 08:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Scum:
Erya
FF

For reasons I've already given.

Scumlean:
LS - Wants to defend FF who has done nothing for town. Why?
Disinfo

Inactive:
TS
Mig
Sent
Palmar
Mocsta



Neutral:
Grack
VE
Kelsier
Vivax
slam

These guys are either scumhunting or putting the appearance of scumhunting but i have no read on them yet.

Town:
Rayn
MZ
TW


Townreading these guys but don't wanna give too much away as to why. You can guess from their posts if you think about it.


Townlean:
Pandain

Same as above but less so.



The first vote on fF I thought was just a vote to get things going honestly. I thought he was townie in his responses to Mig unless you think both of them are mafia and are bussing each other that early into the game.


I don't have any read on mig but ff has posted alot without saying anything.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 07 2019 20:10 GMT
#1015
Voting eywa cos the last couple of pages were just gross.
If you're voting someone who you think is town you must be scum.
Simples.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 07 2019 20:17 GMT
#1021
On April 08 2019 05:13 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Voting eywa cos the last couple of pages were just gross.
If you're voting someone who you think is town you must be scum.
Simples.

If I were scum I would have lied.


Either way if you're trying to get town lynched you're the enemy.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 07 2019 20:18 GMT
#1022
On April 08 2019 05:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 05:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
Voting eywa cos the last couple of pages were just gross.
If you're voting someone who you think is town you must be scum.
Simples.


Then you must think rayn is scum too.


Yeah some of my original reads were garbage based off the game setup but i've decided to drop that line of thinking cos i think i had it wrong.
Rayn definitely looks a bit scummy from some of his posts today.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 07 2019 20:30 GMT
#1024
On April 08 2019 05:30 Palmar wrote:
Maybe just lynch damdred with me jock?


I don't think I want to thanks!
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 07 2019 20:38 GMT
#1030
On April 08 2019 05:35 Mig wrote:
Everything Eywa has done recently has been blatantly anti town. But its so blatant I have a hard time thinking a mafia would do it more often than an emotional townie would. If he continues to be anti town then maybe hes mafia just leaning into it but I probably will not be voting for him today.

Jock what do you think of meapak the other leading vote getter?

I would still like to hear something from palmar about anyone other than damdred. At least weigh in on meapak/eywa palmer?


I don't like the 'too mafia to be mafia' argument. Besides, being voting confirmed anti-town beats speculating on scum on day 1.

Meapak hasn't seemed that scummy to me. Its mostly because this is exactly how he started the last game as town.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 07 2019 21:47 GMT
#1087
On April 08 2019 06:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

lol
why?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 06:14 GMT
#1230
On April 08 2019 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2019 09:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am always aligned with jockmcplop, and VE. Just to know.

I am hoping these are the rest of Roman council because it would be super funny.


naaaaa

My role is similar to yours but there's some new info in there that i'm not ready to let go yet.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 08:16 GMT
#1237
On April 08 2019 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Think disfo might be mafia based on mechanics though potentially

I don't know how you arrived at this tbh
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 08:48 GMT
#1244
On April 08 2019 17:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 08 2019 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Think disfo might be mafia based on mechanics though potentially

I don't know how you arrived at this tbh
+1 i need some prompting there

I think Sentinel looks terrible too

Its a poor heuristic I know, but in particular, I expect more from a town!sentinel following the shit show from last game.

mig has done enough im content to put him in a leave it till later pile.
I can see a town world where he doesnt think he has town!cred so is happy just being a "voice of reason"

im iffy about tubesock.
in my summary notes i oneworded him as "aloof".
Not scummy per se, but not town either.

Im still happy to get rid of Vivax

Palmar is like mig. wait it n see. No more weekend lazy excuses either.

i need to reread rayn/eywa before settling on an opinion. Even after the multiple pages devoted to that setup talk, im still not entirely sure why Eywa thinks his alt-con is to be recruited by mafia.
in short, from my first read, I wasnt sure what he was stating was fact of role pm vs his interpretation.


Definitely wait & see on Vivax imo.
He has a nose for scum so it might be worth keeping him around.

I agree with hf that Kelsier is looking scummy. His voting post was very wet and flimsy.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 09:29 GMT
#1255
On April 08 2019 17:57 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 17:48 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 08 2019 17:39 Mocsta wrote:
On April 08 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 08 2019 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Think disfo might be mafia based on mechanics though potentially

I don't know how you arrived at this tbh
+1 i need some prompting there

I think Sentinel looks terrible too

Its a poor heuristic I know, but in particular, I expect more from a town!sentinel following the shit show from last game.

mig has done enough im content to put him in a leave it till later pile.
I can see a town world where he doesnt think he has town!cred so is happy just being a "voice of reason"

im iffy about tubesock.
in my summary notes i oneworded him as "aloof".
Not scummy per se, but not town either.

Im still happy to get rid of Vivax

Palmar is like mig. wait it n see. No more weekend lazy excuses either.

i need to reread rayn/eywa before settling on an opinion. Even after the multiple pages devoted to that setup talk, im still not entirely sure why Eywa thinks his alt-con is to be recruited by mafia.
in short, from my first read, I wasnt sure what he was stating was fact of role pm vs his interpretation.


Definitely wait & see on Vivax imo.
He has a nose for scum so it might be worth keeping him around.

I agree with hf that Kelsier is looking scummy. His voting post was very wet and flimsy.
Padawan, the nose for scum prophecy rarely pays dividends.


Its not a prophecy per se, more just that he hasn't done anything particularly scummy yet and he's a good scumhunter for town so... not the enemy.


On April 08 2019 18:19 disformation wrote:
huh. maybe ill read palmars filter after lunch or something.
though 1 or 2 posts gave me a slight feeling he was trying to buddy me?



Palmar just looked like he was trying to get ppl on board with him for the damdred lynch.
There's not much else there to read yet imo.
His posting seems a bit low effort like he just wanted to get one read done so he didn't have to bother reading anyone else.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 09:34 GMT
#1257
On April 08 2019 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
I am pretty sure palmar knows damdred just afks days at a time but he tried to push it as scummy.


If I was gonna be afk for a day or two at a time i would make sure i was scumhunting when i was here.
Otherwise what's the point?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 09:54 GMT
#1260
On April 08 2019 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
Not saying he couldn't be mafia but it's a bit disingenuous to say he is because he's afk


I don't think anyone said that.
Palmar had reasoning based of his roleclaim and i was just saying that he hasn't done any scumhunting.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 10:01 GMT
#1262
On April 08 2019 18:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
I am pretty sure palmar knows damdred just afks days at a time but he tried to push it as scummy.


This is true


Palmar didn't seem to me to be pushing the afk angle.
Here's where he explained why damdred was scum:

On April 07 2019 19:43 Palmar wrote:
To clarify about Damdred.

If I'm to accept his posts at face value, I'd have to believe he has found a way to read rayn as town pretty strongly, in addition to believing he has an anti-town (ie: killing townies, because he thinks rayn is town) secondary win condition and in addition that he chose to reveal that win condition.

Aside from the fact that secondary win conditions are both rare and terrible, even if Damdred has one his optimal play as town is to just play like town and shut up about it. There is absolutely no benefit for Damdred to reveal having objectives outside of killing mafia as town.

I don't believe him.

What I think happened is Damdred is positioning himself to play as 3rd party, ie, he wants us to think he's a neutral 3rd party faction. Mafia does this all the time, it's better to be perceived as a 3rd party working on your own objectives than as mafia. Town doesn't have the same problem because it's even better to be perceived as town than 3rd party.

I don't believe him, I think he's scum.

His best excuse would probably just be that he's trolling and none of this stuff is real.


This is at least as good a reason to vote for someone as anything else I read on d1.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 10:31 GMT
#1266
On April 08 2019 19:28 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2019 05:53 Palmar wrote:
I'm so confused by the resistance to lynch damdred. He's afk, he's posted nothing but setup stuff.

He actually has a history of being useful in day 1.

Even if you don't agree with me on the "he's positioning himself to claim 3p and is thus mafia" thing, the other reasons are plenty fine to kill him.


This is just flat out crap lol


Jock? This is pretty good shit mang.


I dunno.
Maybe.
It mostly looks like he's just tunneling on damdred, like i said its lazy and yeah its a bit crap but its not like OMG MAFIA.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
April 08 2019 11:50 GMT
#1294
Palmar did you have any reads on anyone except Damdred?
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