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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 19:10 GMT
#2739
On April 13 2019 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2019 03:59 disformation wrote:
y not sent though? or is that pending his answers?

you are serious?

not sure tbh; might be confused.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 19:13 GMT
#2742
On April 13 2019 04:11 Pandain wrote:
Rayn claiming cop is just another way of saying he was lying about the original thing. He's not actually a cop

yes that part is obvious.
but if hes neither scum nor cop, why does he pick plammar and ksc over sent?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 19:22 GMT
#2748
On April 13 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote:
We have to go for the cultist this night. Otherwise we might just lose if cultist can continually reuse his powers.

Sentinel is the best chance considering he's probably not a real cop.

yes, we need the cultist or its gege.
i still think psamlar makes sense for cultist... but he should not have been able to convert someone this night.

down to ksc vs sent.

i agree that sent is very not cop.
question is if ksc lied about his role. eg sent could be the remover and ksc the converter. makes sense with ksc's role name?

dunno. whole bunch of them is that afk that i cant tell if they are aware enough of stuff to go for teh plays.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 19:48 GMT
#2750
On April 13 2019 04:24 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2019 04:22 disformation wrote:
On April 13 2019 04:16 Pandain wrote:
We have to go for the cultist this night. Otherwise we might just lose if cultist can continually reuse his powers.

Sentinel is the best chance considering he's probably not a real cop.

yes, we need the cultist or its gege.
i still think psamlar makes sense for cultist... but he should not have been able to convert someone this night.

down to ksc vs sent.

i agree that sent is very not cop.
question is if ksc lied about his role. eg sent could be the remover and ksc the converter. makes sense with ksc's role name?

dunno. whole bunch of them is that afk that i cant tell if they are aware enough of stuff to go for teh plays.


That's a really great question and would be pretty sick. But it's really far-forward thinking at a time they didn't have to be.

in the same vein: sents claim could be horrible on purpose.

i also still think their diplomat aka palmar should be the recruiter. obv night actions say that is BS.
*scratches head*

razor logic would say to just vote sent and call it a day.
think ill sleep on it and decide tomorrow
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 21:13 GMT
#2751
oh wow for some reason i totally didnt see sentinels posts... good sign im too tired and paranoid atm... *sighs*
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 21:16 GMT
#2753
he also cant vote apparently.
so if a town is jailed that basically counts as -1 town ...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 21:31 GMT
#2757
yeah. palmar shouldnt have been able to recruit last night.
so the two obvious choices are ksc or sentinel.

ksc told us he only converts the lovers to the others alignment. could have lied and is always converting.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 12 2019 21:31 GMT
#2758
or sent is the recruiter who has this really weak cop claim
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 11:58 GMT
#2771
On April 13 2019 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2019 06:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I also feel like rayn was telling the truth and caught supreme shit for it so decided to try andplay it off as a meta joke

so either way i want to lynch ksc

I think Sentinel wants to get lynched instead of Kelsier and claimed a check on eywa when in fact he should have a check on holyflare. Kelsier couldn't do anything but jail (and i think convert too) Palmar after his claim. I think they need to buy +1 day to get someone converted. Maybe they are even both mafia but if that's the case then Sentinel is nver the converter i think. I don't also think it makes sense that only Sentinel is mafia because that would mean Kelsier is not and therefore also Palmar is not. That would mean mafia starting with only 2 people, on e of them being lovers with a townie. I think it sounds ridiculously underpowered, especially if you think about what town can do with a massclaim. Sure we had some townies who "needed" to kill townies like LS and FF but still. I think having 3 mafia at the start (aka Vivax, Kels and Sent) is reasonable. Kelsiers "why the fuck would i recruit Grack knowing he is lovers with viv" is bs because regardless of who is mafia they did just that. I don't know what mafia knows and what was the reason but they did that, so saying he isn't the recruiter because he jailed grack is just what anyone would say from "town perspective".

Disformation also had the right idea, we are in deep shit if we get it wrong now and after that there is nothing to do other than randomlynching people because you cannot know who is mafia anymore. That's the most retarded point of cult-like games, but if Kelsier is the recruiter we win just by lynching Palmar tomorrow (ans Sentinel if the game doesn't end there).

yeah, sounds very reasonable.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 11:59 GMT
#2772
if you are going to wifom land that also explains why ksc is voting sent, but sent is not voting ksc (aka ksc has the good role)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 12:48 GMT
#2774
On April 13 2019 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait. Do we lose if we lynch a townie today? How many are alive?

On April 13 2019 01:54 disformation wrote:
super paranoid though.
if they can remove one, shoot one convert one next night we prolly lost?
7-3 (according to rayn)
ml 6-3
shoot 1 5-3
convert one 4-4
remove one 3-4

uhm. if kp is calculated by some amount of scum alive formula it might be even worse.

so yeah i think we have to lynch the recruiter/cultist/converter whatever or we are fucked.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 12:51 GMT
#2777
mh? we are 10 ppl.
if 3 are scum atm its 7-3
we ml: 6-3
they shoot one 5-3
they convert one 4-4
gege?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 12:52 GMT
#2778
if only two are scum we can ml though
8-2
7-2
6-2
5-3
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 16:47 GMT
#2780
yeah, if ksc is not scum, but 3 others are we derped real hard
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 19:58 GMT
#2786
well the thing is. scum somehow converted grack. that 100% happened regardless of what anyone says.
100% scum did convert someone last night. that also 100% happened. so palmar should not be able to use a convert.

leaves us with sent and ksc,
at least one of those is scum and one of them is def the recruiter.
neither of them looks town.
sent very much lied about his role.
ksc might have lied about his role.

also ksc is voting sent, sent is voting someone random

its possible sent is trying to get lynched over ksc to give them one more chance to recruit someone

unfortunately it is not a 100% safe bet
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 20:20 GMT
#2794
rayn did unclaim being converted imo
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 20:28 GMT
#2797
yeah, aware.
dont like that the vote is 3-3 and slam hasnt voted and sent has an irrelevant vote.

semi-afk though. should be around 30mins b4 deadline to think about it once more.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 20:40 GMT
#2799
see my problem is that i really really want to hit the recruiter.
and i think its more likely for ksc to be the recruiter?
like how the fick did they recruit grack if ksc isnt the recruiter?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 20:42 GMT
#2800
or did they seriously give town a role that reverts the alignment of ppl they remove from the game?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
April 13 2019 20:45 GMT
#2802
yeah but someone got converted last night phase
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