On March 16 2019 01:52 LightningStrike wrote: df if you seriously think I am scum do you really think I would break my own personal record for most posts for me in a single game as scum? I historically struggle with posting as scum honestly because of having TMI thus I think more about my posts. Tina also townread me on her death and so did Damdred unless you don't think they were right try again.
Lol you've mentioned over and over that this is the last TL game on mafia. You've broken meta before, and you've posted a lot but managed to say nothing important at the same time. Shapelog was very good at doing this.
On March 16 2019 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually i have the growing feeling that wriggles is mafia which makes me look terrible but whateve, I’m gonna need a computer to check though but like with his talkshow thing, he’s basically avoided pushing anything or taking any hard stances I believe
You’re right in the sense that I hate trying to read RP’ing players and I’ve probably read less than half of what he’s posted. So much unnecessary fluff. Same reason why I can almost never read chez or Slam, though Slam has been more normal and less CHUPAZI!!! This game
On March 16 2019 05:19 Pandain wrote: I mean he claimed to check someone and listed previous checks what else are you looking for lol
He also said it was a “ploy”, “didn’t need to check him he’s just scum” about DF and claimed he checked FF for a post then back to DF.
And there’s the points you brought up concerning balance. I’d like to add that in the world where we did have three cops, I’m shocked that not a single Miller has flipped.
Correct, unless we're insanely unlucky and they're all still around.
On March 16 2019 02:43 LightningStrike wrote: Wait it is lylo if Onegu's claim is true because it's 8-5-1 assuming 7 mafias in this game I dumb telled on accident >.<
On March 16 2019 04:46 Pandain wrote: Mocsta is almost certainly bullshiting about his claim, making him almost certainly mafia
Nothing about his claim makes sense.
1. He claimed parity cop last night already, without revealing his checks. If he was really cop and was afraid to get shot, he almost certainly would have revealed his checks right before day. Not doing this shows he either isn't afraid of getting shot, or he doesn't care about revealing his information, neither of which makes sense if he's actually cop. 2. None of his checks make sense. Let's see who he says a. Koshi night one - Makes no sense. Mocsta had a strong town read on Koshi. Why would you check someone you have a town read on, especially when they were not posting at all like Koshi night one? + Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2019 02:37 Vivax wrote: Anyway, here's my 100% scummers in case I die.
Iamp, Oats, Marv, Sentinel.
My 50 % scummers. Half of those are townies.
rsoultin, Wiggles, Pandain, ExO, BH, TS
Rayn not mafia cause can't be mafia with iamp in 9/10 cases. HF just decided to be a selfish dumbass and shit up the game and hurt my feelings, but alas, he's town by PoE. He literally doesn't give a shit about being townread when town. All he cares about is that people are wrong about him no matter his alignment so he can pat himself on the back.
I absolutely agree on that.
You/acro/koshi/jock/HF are pretty much my only town reads.
Note this is 30 minutes before day 2, so as recent that night as you can get
b. Holyflare night two - Same deal here, Mocsta thought he was town. See spoilers below. Not only that, Mocsta was scumreading people like Exo and Oats. Like the last night, this filter makes no sense.
I will also say this is the "lazy" choice for a fakeclaim check night two, as I bet with all the drama most people would have checked him if not the night before. However based on Mocsta's filter? No way.
On March 07 2019 20:14 Holyflare wrote: I don't understand why anyone even thinks I'm mafia that would trade 1 for 1 with Palmar for absolutely no reason at all.
Then they make up some bs like they don't even remember how the d1 vote count went. There was no real vote count for 20 minutes after deadline.
they are voting you because you are an internet narcissist.
You have 10% of the page count for what? Congrats, you won the last mayor, and in my opinion wrecked town atmosphere.
I dont think you are scum, I actually thought you were pretty sincere before you when you said you were burnt out. Makes sense, its a bucket load of effort to maintain.
Acro has been putting it in equally too you know.
I really think you are both town.
I really want damdred lynched. or someone from the lurker pool Or vivax, i dont care at this point.
I invested most of my energy into Ace and for what. fuckn 3P. sigh.
On March 08 2019 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Hf I feel like so much of what you've done is based on whether people are defending you or what their reads of the unflipped BH are.
yep and thats what most townies do under pressure
focus on anything to do with them.
c. Ticktock night three - Alright, maybe, in that he was at least scumming him before.
However, it is also convenient that they just all happen to be dead as well. And there's no way town had three cops, that's way way way too imbalanced. Can you imagine if the cops did not die day 1? This game would have been over from long before.
However, the final nail in the coffin is that Mocsta rescinded his vote on DF. We are in a possible lylo situation right now depending on KP and how many mafia there are. Why would a parity cop who just checked someone who is red ever in a million years not keep pushing for his red check? Makes absolutely no sense if he's telling the truth.
If we actually are in a lylo situation, it would be a perfect time for mafia to fake claim because they just need to get one person lynched. The whole circumstances surrounding Mocsta are super sketchy, shady, and scummy, and he's practically mafia in my book now.
These circumstances also makes darthfoley a strong town in my book. If he is town, I'm not surprised that mafia would fakeclaim check him considering there is tons of suspicion on him.
In short, he's contradictory, his "checks" don't make sense, and he isn't playing like someone who just checked scum.
Thank you. This is exactly what is bothering me about Mocsta's claim, and why I wanted him to make a clear claim. I also wanted to check his reads on his check targets, so this is sparing me the effort lol
TL;DR I sheep my vote to Acro - He deserves this much for the only guy left giving a real shit about the game If this is it - Its been a bittersweet pleasure & I think Pandain + Rels are scum
Im feeling much better about DF - I prob more wanted him to be scum, then I thought he was scum.
Fwiw this isn’t how I pictured you either will watch it soon
On March 16 2019 23:54 Mocsta wrote: I agree with the onegu reasoning - that survivor is unlikely
I just find it hard to accept lynching a guy with 10% chance to flip survivor when theres at least another 3 scummers
Ironically i forgot i even scum read u. I was focused on pandain. I think exo and mz both look real shit for lack of presence this cycle
Goijg to bed now.
The fact that MZ had a lot of heat on him D1, by good players who we have since confirmed Town, yet has stayed under the radar and has been just active enough to avoid a wagon starting... I think he’s likely to flip scum.
What do you remember about his play from the last two cycles? For me, my perception is that he’s pretty much parked his ass behind “I’ll sheep you Acro, I believe in you!!” Without actually committing to anything. He did this about me, where he’s said that he’s willing to sheep acro’s read on me. It feels TMI in a sense: he doesn’t seem worried AT ALL that Acro has been kept alive day after day after a vigi claim. No tin foil, no second guessing. No assuming Acro could be wrong (and hence, kept alive). He’s left himself a lot of wide open doors on what we assume is LYLO, except for this one. Then there is the fact that he’s been quite inactive to boot.
I mean, read the last two pages of his filter. Give me the creeps
On March 15 2019 00:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Those last minute shenanigans were absolutely to save onegu imo. He goes first tomorrow. I can't fucking believe people still lynched chez after the town seal and acros explanation of the claim but whatever. I still think we've got a decent shot to win this.
On March 16 2019 12:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok i finally made it home. I think mocstas claim is wayyy too sloppy to be scum. I don't think this clears DF. I believe onegu's claim and I also believe we're at lylo so I'm not real impressed with the people who are pushing him rn.
On March 15 2019 00:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Those last minute shenanigans were absolutely to save onegu imo. He goes first tomorrow. I can't fucking believe people still lynched chez after the town seal and acros explanation of the claim but whatever. I still think we've got a decent shot to win this.
On March 15 2019 00:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: My plan at this point is to sheep the shit out of acros reads whether he lives tonight or not. His deconstruction of the chez thing shows a better understanding of this game than anyone else so far.
The bolded reads very weird to me. It seems like that random bit of TMI that scum often include, but town wouldn't think about. Feels so unnecessary to point out. Like it gives him an out to do nothing regardless of NKs.
On March 15 2019 03:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I might swap Grack with Rels/FF but other than that I think your reads are spot on Acro.
On March 15 2019 13:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm fully prepared to sheep acro. Those NKs were a bit surprising but I'm still comfortable with what acro is saying. I am finally going home tomorrow so I'll at last be able to be more active for the last half of the day.
We get it dude, you have a hard on for Acro. What I simply can't buy is his unwavering support of Acro. Mind you, Acro has claimed lurker vig like three days ago, been pretty much as consistently wrong as everyone so far (Sentinel gives a modicum of credit, but scum were probably unaware of his relation to them) and yet MZ doesn't entertain the idea that 1) Acro could be 3p or scum OR 2) Acro is being kept alive because he's largely wrong on his reads. This unwavering support strikes me as odd and completely opposite to everyone else right now who wavering, waffling, double checking things, etc. He claims the NKs were "surprising" but doesn't explain why he thinks that, how they are surprising, and what they mean for the game at large.
MZ is scum so we should be lynching him over Oats. I can’t wait for the flame post game if we mislynch and MZ survives after being the first person of interest in a 400-500 page thread lol
Maybe I’m too far down the rabbit hole tunneling but the lack of genuine conversation after I cased MZ and hyperfocus on Oats/Wiggles makes me think I’ve got it
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Slam and ExO aren't here and not voted either. Very concerning.
TBH there is a very high chance ExO is scum just lurking around. I'm sure he'll get back just in time to vote too Slam's votes last EOD were pretty townie though, especially if TS is scum
This first sentence is where I’m starting to head as well. I townread ExO earlier for not giving a shit but the fact that he hasn’t done anything in a probable LYLO cycle makes him much more likely to be scum at this point. Perfect for when he drops his vote at :59
EPT
will watch it soon
