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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2019 14:02 GMT
#5021
On March 07 2019 22:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 22:49 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I am voting BH as a placeholder/ information lynch.


With rsoultin of all people? kk

Palmar, marv, Koshi wanted HF dead

Now you probably don't know ace and BC, but they are the "old guard" of this forum. They both want HF dead and so far the only dudes casing them are coincidentially the ones opposing the HF lynch, so.

I'd love it if you voted HF.


You know this is false how can you even believe it lol
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
March 07 2019 14:02 GMT
#5022
I'm invoking ace and bc cause they're voting HF?

If marv, Koshi and Palmar were magically back in the game today, who do you think they'd be voting?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 07 2019 14:03 GMT
#5023
On March 07 2019 23:01 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 22:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:51 Vivax wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:49 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I am voting BH as a placeholder/ information lynch.


With rsoultin of all people? kk

Palmar, marv, Koshi wanted HF dead

Now you probably don't know ace and BC, but they are the "old guard" of this forum. They both want HF dead and so far the only dudes casing them are coincidentially the ones opposing the HF lynch, so.

I'd love it if you voted HF.

Again it just a placeholder atm but I also want more information about the wagons Day 1.
On March 07 2019 22:54 Acrofales wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:49 LightningStrike wrote:
For now I am voting BH as a placeholder/ information lynch.

This makes no sense.

I mean a placeholder vote stilla bit tired >.< But i also want information in terms of Day 1 wagons hence the information part.

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT WE LEARN FROM LYNCHING BH!

If BH is town mafia had a field day and can have their votes all over the place. If BH is scum then maybe need to take a closer look on the Tfrel wagon maybe a few on BH for easy bus credit.

So... very little information at all, especially if he's town. And if he's scum? Do you think scum wasn't busing him when he martyred?

Do you think we gain more information from lynching a town BH than from lynching scum?

I can see a few of them bussing if he's scum but if he's town like I said mafia had a field day which would mean we need to take a closer look at people's reasoning for their votes.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 07 2019 14:03 GMT
#5024
On March 07 2019 23:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm invoking ace and bc cause they're voting HF?

If marv, Koshi and Palmar were magically back in the game today, who do you think they'd be voting?


wiggles
wiggles
wiggles
wiggles
wiggles
wiggles
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 07 2019 14:03 GMT
#5025
On March 07 2019 23:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 23:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm invoking ace and bc cause they're voting HF?

If marv, Koshi and Palmar were magically back in the game today, who do you think they'd be voting?


wiggles
wiggles
wiggles
wiggles
wiggles
wiggles

That was only palmar though lol....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 07 2019 14:04 GMT
#5026
On March 07 2019 22:52 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 22:41 Mocsta wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:39 Acrofales wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:38 Mocsta wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:33 Acrofales wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:14 Mocsta wrote:
Thata it

Im voting bh

We need day1 closure

Im honestly ok with losing if hf is scum
I really cant see it

##vote: BH

Oh come on, mocsta. I don't want to make a BH is town post, because most of the reasoning is already in my filter, but lynching BH for information doesn't make any sense at all. You want to lynch for information? Lynch scum. That's the only real way to get information on who was reticent about lynching them, and hedging their bets. But lets say we lynch "for information":

If BH is scum (unlikely at this point), I guess it looks bad for Vivax, but Conversion, the one who sealed the deal, already flipped town. It also looks kinda bad for anybody else on the trfel wagon, but any decent scumteam is going to distribute votes and some will be bussing their buddy, especially if their buddy is BH begging to get killed in the thread. Imho, there is very little information to be gained here even if he's scum. Maybe from today's lynch you'd gain more, but I'm willing to be scum is not gonna vote to save him now either. I sure as hell wouldn't if I were mafia.

If BH is town, it literally didn't matter at all to scum what wagon they were or weren't on in D1, and we learn jack shit from flipping BH. They were welcome to vote for whoever they wanted. I guess people who didn't bother to consolidate on either of the wagons look bad, but with so many people just plain afk, even that is hard to figure out.
its not info

The two wagons are hf and bh

Im not sure we can get a swing onto an alternate cos no idea whom thw lurkers will latch onto

If bh and hf are both town. I would prefer to lynch bh still

GAaaaaaargh. I almost want to lynch you instead for this amount of retardation.
im one vote

I dont see what ur issue is

Im not the make/break for u to get hf flipped

Who says this won't come down to a single vote? But regardless of that: way to abdicate your power. If you really think both are town, have the balls to vote for a scumread.
dude i undwrstand what u r saying

I n my opinion town wont unite unless there is closure for bh/hf

I doubt we have a backup backup cop.. so one of the two needs to be lynched

Without unity. The game is over.

Ace was my best read. Not mucb has changed ither than HE hinted he was 3P.

I think sk is still part of non themed game...
Too much value to get possibly get rid of him.

Next best scum read is a crapshoot to be frank

I want exo or damdred or wiggles lynched

I cant remember anything wiggles wrote whicj is not a good sign

Im going to bed.. and wknt be back till 30mjn before deadline
Obviously i cNt catch up on thread like vivax expects me too

If damdred exo or wiggles has a lhnchable wagon i will change my vote in morning.

Otherwise the lesser evil between bh and hf.. is to keep hf in my opinion


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2019 14:04 GMT
#5027
Ace and BC have fabricated cases on me.

Marv definitely wouldn't be voting for me.

Palmar would be alive so definitely wouldn't. He's bad anyway, he got lynched d1.

Koshi no fucking idea, he's a loose cannon. I'd reckon he'd say "that hf lynch was so bad. SO bad. He must be town cos hf is bad as town."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
March 07 2019 14:04 GMT
#5028
On March 07 2019 23:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 22:56 Vivax wrote:
Marv wasn't being super pushy about it, but he said it very clearly that HF needs to die for killing Palmar, cause that's the logical thing to do. Same for Palmar. "If he actually kills me he has to die".

The doubt in their posts later is there cause they weren't able to pin him down on more than that.

And you'd be right, but there's punishing hf for being an idiot (a d also punishing ourselves) or actually attempting to win.

They are right he absolutely should die. But with or without me I know how these things go, and that's not going to happen.


I believe you are playing favouritism mafia, not real mafia well knowing that the odds he's scum are insanely high.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 07 2019 14:05 GMT
#5029
On March 07 2019 23:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm invoking ace and bc cause they're voting HF?

If marv, Koshi and Palmar were magically back in the game today, who do you think they'd be voting?

I don't think they'd all slam vote hf.
Marv would have been able to read him ages ago. Palmar would probably vindictive for hf trying to kill him.

Koshi...?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2019 14:05 GMT
#5030
I confirm that I'm Mason and that I used my power on rsoul N1
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9493 Posts
March 07 2019 14:06 GMT
#5031
On March 07 2019 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
Ace and BC have fabricated cases on me.

Marv definitely wouldn't be voting for me.

Palmar would be alive so definitely wouldn't. He's bad anyway, he got lynched d1.

Koshi no fucking idea, he's a loose cannon. I'd reckon he'd say "that hf lynch was so bad. SO bad. He must be town cos hf is bad as town."


How are you reading BH right now?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 07 2019 14:06 GMT
#5032
On March 07 2019 23:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vivax why are you invoking Ace and bc?


Anyway, hf is pretty likely town here. Fuck cases, fuck reading through 80 page filters. That's not how this game gets won.

Hf does have limits to what he's capable of. I had kind of forgotten that. Deflecting suspicion for the entirety of a game is not where he likes to be. Sure he can put forth more sheer effort than nearly anybody else, but that is a tall order. Way more likely he actually did what he said and was dumb because he loves being right and looking right.

It honestly seems pretty simple once you cut out all the bullshit. If I'm wrong here I'll eat that be a use I'm going back completely on what I said myself. If we lynch hf anyway and he's town, I'm kind of ok with it because it's on him.

I'll be voting BH barring any extreme circumstances at this point now. I think BH is a 50/50 but he has a much lower chance of flipping green.

My candidate if people want to try for crazy shit at the end of a day is the Pandain slot. I'm like 90 per ebt certain that's scum. We don't learn much from it, but it's solid.
good post

No need foe this as scum

U jn my good books
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 07 2019 14:06 GMT
#5033
On March 07 2019 23:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 23:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:56 Vivax wrote:
Marv wasn't being super pushy about it, but he said it very clearly that HF needs to die for killing Palmar, cause that's the logical thing to do. Same for Palmar. "If he actually kills me he has to die".

The doubt in their posts later is there cause they weren't able to pin him down on more than that.

And you'd be right, but there's punishing hf for being an idiot (a d also punishing ourselves) or actually attempting to win.

They are right he absolutely should die. But with or without me I know how these things go, and that's not going to happen.


I believe you are playing favouritism mafia, not real mafia well knowing that the odds he's scum are insanely high.

They're not, actually. Dual town wagons are way more likely D1 (mayor or lynch) and I've already explained why else I don't think hf being scum is likely. Voting him out of fear isn't worth it for me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2019 14:07 GMT
#5034
On March 07 2019 23:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
Ace and BC have fabricated cases on me.

Marv definitely wouldn't be voting for me.

Palmar would be alive so definitely wouldn't. He's bad anyway, he got lynched d1.

Koshi no fucking idea, he's a loose cannon. I'd reckon he'd say "that hf lynch was so bad. SO bad. He must be town cos hf is bad as town."


How are you reading BH right now?


Just told Mocsta I'm reading him as mafia. Everything he writes are just comments to survive and conveniently have a reason to vote me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21952 Posts
March 07 2019 14:07 GMT
#5035
On March 05 2019 20:06 Koshi wrote:
My list lynch is now:
HF (vig not on BH)
Wiggles ( Palmar)
Sentinel (Palmar + Tfrel)
Anybody marv currently votes for

I will pick 1 at my pleasure. List will update after lynches but not on nk because those come from mafia.

I am sad Tfrel ended up blue.

Not much more to say and do.

LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 07 2019 14:07 GMT
#5036
On March 07 2019 23:05 Rels wrote:
I confirm that I'm Mason and that I used my power on rsoul N1

Cool reasoning for using the power on Tina?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2019 14:08 GMT
#5037
On March 07 2019 23:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 20:06 Koshi wrote:
My list lynch is now:
HF (vig not on BH)
Wiggles ( Palmar)
Sentinel (Palmar + Tfrel)
Anybody marv currently votes for

I will pick 1 at my pleasure. List will update after lynches but not on nk because those come from mafia.

I am sad Tfrel ended up blue.

Not much more to say and do.



That's in a vacuum of 24 hours where everyone is still salty. I'm sure he'd come around eventually. Almost positive in fact.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 07 2019 14:10 GMT
#5038
On March 07 2019 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 23:07 Vivax wrote:
On March 05 2019 20:06 Koshi wrote:
My list lynch is now:
HF (vig not on BH)
Wiggles ( Palmar)
Sentinel (Palmar + Tfrel)
Anybody marv currently votes for

I will pick 1 at my pleasure. List will update after lynches but not on nk because those come from mafia.

I am sad Tfrel ended up blue.

Not much more to say and do.



That's in a vacuum of 24 hours where everyone is still salty. I'm sure he'd come around eventually. Almost positive in fact.
thats a fair point from hf

Jt doesnt matter whether he woukd come around or not

The salient part is that it was written when salty
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 07 2019 14:10 GMT
#5039
People who are voting HF, if you're doing so for filter dive-y and NOT mod reasons, I won't stop you.

This to me is the clearest case on a town hf. It's absolutely possible I'm wrong here and if the game goes late, remember, but if scum HF truly pulled off what he did D1 that's insanely impressive, even for him and we as a whole deserve to lose for falling for it and lynching #1 town voice.


Hf does have limits to what he's capable of. I had kind of forgotten that. Deflecting suspicion for the entirety of a game is not where he likes to be. Sure he can put forth more sheer effort than nearly anybody else, but that is a tall order. Way more likely he actually did what he said and was dumb because he loves being right and looking right.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 07 2019 14:11 GMT
#5040
On March 07 2019 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 23:05 Rels wrote:
I confirm that I'm Mason and that I used my power on rsoul N1

Cool reasoning for using the power on Tina?

Not much, some combination of: I like her outside the game, I townread her in game, she was scumreading me and she was seemingly not well in the thread at some point.
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