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On March 07 2019 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 07:20 rsoultin wrote:On March 07 2019 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 07 2019 06:36 rsoultin wrote:On March 07 2019 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
3. What did he do? Saying HF dont lymch Palmar or Koshi for mayor for 30mins counts as nothing because it never achieves nothing. Like has everyone fucking stopped understanding how this game even works?!?!?! This is the last I'm going to say on this. Achieving something is not the same as trying to achieve something. Right now you are trying to achieve something. There is one post on his filter where he says "i went to read palmars filter and he is not scum". There is a set of 3 posts that goes "koshi wanna be mayor?", "lets do this (vote)", "koshi mayor going nowhere (vote palmar)". That lasted a whole 30 minutes and that is all of his "trying to achieve" not getting mayor lynch his townread.... I dont even know why the dude voted for trfel (for some random post), while earlier having agreed to bh lynch. Okay, I can see where you're coming from. Your argument is that he wasn't trying hard enough for you to believe he really cared about it, yes? For some reason I think I might have read his having already addressed this...yes. Why do you think Sentinel was a townread of Acrofales? Yes that is my argument. Idk why he was but he was. Very light townread but still townread. Another thing about caring. His case against you on idk n1 or d2. Your scumread on palmar. He didnt even care enough to check why i scumread palmar (your read was based on mine). He said i scumread palmar because palmar wanted to kill sentinel (which is ridiculous because i originally said i am okay with that plan eventhough i tgink palmar is scum) and because palmar didnt respond to my case on him (i had had a scumread on palmar long before that happened and that had literally nothing to do with your read on palmar). Is that much caring? Like its not very hard to know why me or you scumread palmar if you read our filters with any thought, somehow he managed to miss that while its the backbone of his case. Then he said something like holyflare must die for his stunt and will flip mafia but hey lets lynch wiggles and sentinel because palmar said so. Like wtf he doesnt even think sentinel is mafia eod1 but when night starts he magically is because palmar flipped, and i bet he didnt even know at that point why palmar read wiggles mafia. ahh cool we picked up on the same thing.
I think at this point I would have to meta-dive acro to get a feel if he puts in this type of effort as scum. Because whilst the sentinel thing is weird, hes got some good consistency overall.
do you honestly think acro is a higher chance to flip than ace?
let me remind you:
On March 06 2019 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I agree on the case on Ace.
I had more thought on it and i think the fact that he was actually aware of Trfel (or at least looked like he is) suggests that it is more likely he did in fact know what Holyflare was about to do.
I know a lot of people are saying Ace is too good as scum to do something like that but i don't believe that is the case.
I think Ace decided he can use his activity as an excuse to "not know HF is gonna lynch Palmar", aka that he didn't see it, and did the numbers and thought he can get away with it.
Also Ace is not like some fucking mafia god that doesn't make any mistakes.
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On March 07 2019 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ace case is meh, if this was his first game he’s mafia but it’s not so meh On March 07 2019 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
As for ace. walk me through that logic. What has he done specifically that makes him scummy if he played the first time? On March 07 2019 08:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read the cases again that’s what it is lol Lets try this again 
All im asking for is that you comment on what you found could be scummy about Ace.
Its a 2 page filter so is one of the easiest things in this game to reply about.
https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace
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I think you got a lot of what i said wrong. At least ypur analysis isnt about what i said for most parts.
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Yes i honeatly think he has a higher chance of flipping scum.
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You somehow think being consistent is a town trait while in fact its completely non-alignment indicative.
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On March 07 2019 09:29 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ace case is meh, if this was his first game he’s mafia but it’s not so meh Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
As for ace. walk me through that logic. What has he done specifically that makes him scummy if he played the first time? Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 08:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read the cases again that’s what it is lol Lets try this again All im asking for is that you comment on what you found could be scummy about Ace. Its a 2 page filter so is one of the easiest things in this game to reply about. https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace
So you want me to reiterate what other people have said?
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Canada11355 Posts
Fuck i better do some reading and responding and shit because the amount and frequency of posts does not seem to be changing and the times when I'm at work/asleep seem to be the most active times. Let me poop and toke and I'll be around.
No promises of quality or effort though so if anyone has things they want my opinion on let me know and I'll do them first
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A lot of people are defending him with "but this one is really townie thing" arguments which is stupid because no mafia ever only makes scummy posts. I hate when people dont answer the accusation ditectly but instead try to make another argument that points out to another direction. Acrofales himself does that when he answers me and iamp earlier. 1 scummy thing + 20 townie things = still scum if the scummy thing is actually scummy. There is no "many townie things can wash away one scummy one" in this game yet almost everyone somehow think so.
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On March 07 2019 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A lot of people are defending him with "but this one is really townie thing" arguments which is stupid because no mafia ever only makes scummy posts. I hate when people dont answer the accusation ditectly but instead try to make another argument that points out to another direction. Acrofales himself does that when he answers me and iamp earlier. 1 scummy thing + 20 townie things = still scum if the scummy thing is actually scummy. There is no "many townie things can wash away one scummy one" in this game yet almost everyone somehow think so.
No but if my role pm says I’m scum and I lynch all the scummy people then I’m town right? I only have one scummy thing wrong with me
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Blazinghand
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Players sorted by filter length in pages:
Pages - Player
1 - AMG
2 - darthfoley
2 - Ace, Onegu
3 - Damdred, ExO_, tubesock, BloodyC0bbler
4 - Ticktock, Tumblewood, [UoN]Sentinel, Meapak_Ziphh, Mr. Wiggles, Rels
6 - FecalFeast, sicklucker, jockmcplop, grackaroni, Mocsta
7 - Blazinghand, Chezinu
10 - Vivax
11 - raynpelikoneet
12 - LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Alakaslam
13 - Oatsmaster, Acrofales
17 - rsoultin
24 - Holyflare
Players who have made no content-containing posts today:
Ace (last post about 24h ago)
Damdred (one post 12 hours ago saying he'll catch up)
ExO_ (last post was about 48h ago)
Ace hasn't posted since N1
Sentinel is borderline, he made 4 posts right around day start then dipped
AMG made 2 posts at day start, extremely terse
Darthfoley made a single post at day strart asking why I wasn't vigged
I'm not saying all the lurkers are scum or town or anything. But now we know who, where, and when. Don't townread me for this, or scumread me for this, this isn't analysis, just gathering facts.
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On March 07 2019 09:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 09:29 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ace case is meh, if this was his first game he’s mafia but it’s not so meh On March 07 2019 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
As for ace. walk me through that logic. What has he done specifically that makes him scummy if he played the first time? On March 07 2019 08:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read the cases again that’s what it is lol Lets try this again All im asking for is that you comment on what you found could be scummy about Ace. Its a 2 page filter so is one of the easiest things in this game to reply about. https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace So you want me to reiterate what other people have said? yes, that would be lovely.
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Also Mocsta; saying "palmar lynch oats and whoever that was after i get lynched" is faaaaaar from trying to convince palmar to change his mayor lynch target.
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On March 07 2019 09:45 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 09:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2019 09:29 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ace case is meh, if this was his first game he’s mafia but it’s not so meh On March 07 2019 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
As for ace. walk me through that logic. What has he done specifically that makes him scummy if he played the first time? On March 07 2019 08:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read the cases again that’s what it is lol Lets try this again All im asking for is that you comment on what you found could be scummy about Ace. Its a 2 page filter so is one of the easiest things in this game to reply about. https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace So you want me to reiterate what other people have said? yes, that would be lovely.
Maybe sometime
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On March 07 2019 09:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Players sorted by filter length in pages:
Pages - Player
1 - AMG
2 - darthfoley
2 - Ace, Onegu
3 - Damdred, ExO_, tubesock, BloodyC0bbler
4 - Ticktock, Tumblewood, [UoN]Sentinel, Meapak_Ziphh, Mr. Wiggles, Rels
6 - FecalFeast, sicklucker, jockmcplop, grackaroni, Mocsta
7 - Blazinghand, Chezinu
10 - Vivax
11 - raynpelikoneet
12 - LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Alakaslam
13 - Oatsmaster, Acrofales
17 - rsoultin
24 - Holyflare
Players who have made no content-containing posts today:
Ace (last post about 24h ago)
Damdred (one post 12 hours ago saying he'll catch up)
ExO_ (last post was about 48h ago)
Ace hasn't posted since N1
Sentinel is borderline, he made 4 posts right around day start then dipped
AMG made 2 posts at day start, extremely terse
Darthfoley made a single post at day strart asking why I wasn't vigged
I'm not saying all the lurkers are scum or town or anything. But now we know who, where, and when. Don't townread me for this, or scumread me for this, this isn't analysis, just gathering facts.
Can’t believe rsoul has 17 pages and she hasn’t taken any controversial stances
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On March 07 2019 09:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You somehow think being consistent is a town trait while in fact its completely non-alignment indicative.
I can see consistency wasnt the right word to convey what I meant.
Treat it as, Acrofales has enough references in his filter to trace his position over time - instead of it being in his head.
I personally think its taxing to do this as scum with more than 2 or 3 people.
We arent talking about 1 line mentions, he has a defendable (read: quotable) position.
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On March 07 2019 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Mocsta; saying "palmar lynch oats and whoever that was after i get lynched" is faaaaaar from trying to convince palmar to change his mayor lynch target. i acknowledged this via (limply)
but it doesnt change that I feel you over embellished that point.
Regardless, I want to know why acrofales flipped his read on sentinel.
I can seriously consider a lynch based on that. I dont see how a palmar or trfel should change his read on sentinel at all.
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look. i could consider a world where acro filter is too clean in that, its too quotable/defensible.
Thats not a good sign. I dont really feel like doing that, until i get an answer about sentinel first.
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On March 07 2019 09:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 09:45 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 09:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2019 09:29 Mocsta wrote:On March 07 2019 08:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ace case is meh, if this was his first game he’s mafia but it’s not so meh On March 07 2019 08:30 Mocsta wrote:
As for ace. walk me through that logic. What has he done specifically that makes him scummy if he played the first time? On March 07 2019 08:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read the cases again that’s what it is lol Lets try this again All im asking for is that you comment on what you found could be scummy about Ace. Its a 2 page filter so is one of the easiest things in this game to reply about. https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace So you want me to reiterate what other people have said? yes, that would be lovely. Maybe sometime What are we dancing around?
If you agree with others, surely its as easy to respond to me, as it is to give a quote.
Hes either scummy or not scummy.
Do you think its not scummy that Ace never followed through with his only scum read on BloodyCobbler?
Do you think its not scummy that Ace random voted Koshi instead of BC?
Do you think its not scummy that Ace pushed Trfel to claim, and was ignorant about HF mayor lynch intentions?
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yes
i was about to read the exchanges between you + acro.
but go on.
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