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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 06 2019 20:25 GMT
#4561
modkill
modkill
modkill
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 06 2019 20:25 GMT
#4562
On March 07 2019 05:25 Vivax wrote:
Ok kita. If you want 24 PMs asking you how the mayor works, so be it.

How do you know he hasn’t gotten them yet?
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 06 2019 20:26 GMT
#4563
Can I modkill myself in solidarity?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
March 06 2019 20:26 GMT
#4564
On March 07 2019 05:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:19 Vivax wrote:
How does the mayor role work ?


He literally explained it in the thread:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 01:01 kitaman27 wrote:
In case there was any confusion regarding the mechanics of the mayor lynch, the night post will be delayed until the mayor submits their lynch. If the leading candidates do not anticipate being around for the deadline and want to submit their lynch via PM ahead of time, that is fine. The game will be paused until the mayor lynch has been submitted and then the night post will be posted, revealing the alignments and roles of both lynched players.



Thank you Jesus.

So why are we still discussing whether HF had intention of killing BH if BH wasnt the lynch? Thats ridiculous.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 06 2019 20:27 GMT
#4565
From reading the blue text, my understanding is that the mayor’s lynch is locked in when the night post happens so any time before that it could’ve been changed
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
March 06 2019 20:27 GMT
#4566
On March 07 2019 05:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can I modkill myself in solidarity?

Maybe this is the proper way to end the last game of TL mafia.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 06 2019 20:27 GMT
#4567
On March 07 2019 05:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 07 2019 05:19 Vivax wrote:
How does the mayor role work ?


He literally explained it in the thread:
On March 05 2019 01:01 kitaman27 wrote:
In case there was any confusion regarding the mechanics of the mayor lynch, the night post will be delayed until the mayor submits their lynch. If the leading candidates do not anticipate being around for the deadline and want to submit their lynch via PM ahead of time, that is fine. The game will be paused until the mayor lynch has been submitted and then the night post will be posted, revealing the alignments and roles of both lynched players.



Thank you Jesus.

So why are we still discussing whether HF had intention of killing BH if BH wasnt the lynch? Thats ridiculous.

Because he literally said that?
No gg, No skill.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 20:27 GMT
#4568
On March 07 2019 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
Even attempting to make a case on Slam is the most jarring and headache inducing thing I think I've ever done but I must persevere for the good of mankind.

For your own preservation you mean.

Continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel at the risk of getting splinters in your fingernails.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
March 06 2019 20:28 GMT
#4569
On March 07 2019 05:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
From reading the blue text, my understanding is that the mayor’s lynch is locked in when the night post happens so any time before that it could’ve been changed


No, mayor literally can not submit anything, look at whos being lynched, and then make his decision.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 06 2019 20:28 GMT
#4570
On March 06 2019 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think we should lynch Acrofales and i don't think anything is going to change my mind this phase anymore. He has now given himself a perfect narrative to do absolutely nothing than sound like a broken record repeating Holyflare is mafia because he did a stupid thing. The problem is if you don't kill him right now even if we lynch another mafia after N2 too many influential players are going to be dead and he will simply yell over anyone who's left and town and you will get irritated and lose interest to play. I know this because it's how i used to play as scum.

Here is a list why Acrofales is mafia:
  • He called out Grackaroni for making a useless list post and then continued doing nothing but listing lurkers / low volume posters for like next 24 hours. Neither of those are in itself necessarily scummy but saying someone is scum for doing a "universal mafia trait" -thing and then doing the same thing yourself is scummy as fuck and never comes from town, you'd have to be the biggest fucking hypocrite on earth to do that.

  • He scumread iamperfection for too long, he should know wayyyyy better regardless of the fact iamp made a case (that everyone should read) on him.

  • During the EoD he wasn't actively trying to do stuff, all he did was yelling and causing chaos. The most notable thing is he perfectly knew both Palmar's and Holyflare's mayor lynch choices don't align with his reads yet never ever during the whole time the debate was on tries he convince either of them to agree on a different lynch. Especially Palmar when they both share a scumread on Mocsta. There is simply no reason why a townie shouldn't care about this.

  • Fake anger after D1 flips and anger directed at wrong place. Tubesock had a good post about this.

  • After D1 Acrofales hasn't done a single productive thing. He has given himself a narrative in calling Holyflare mafia, hiding behind it, and doing nothing else. Even if he genuinely thinks Holyflare is mafia for doing a bad / stupid thing (which isn't even a good reason to scumread someone) it's simply pure mafia play to excuse yourself for not doing anything other than calling him mafia and everyone stupid and bad.


I encourage everyone to put your votes on Acrofales.

All these Lighntingstrikes and Alakaslams need to get their heads out of their asses. Wave if you want to spend the rest of the game with scum 5-years-ago-rayn then be my guest and have your vote on HF as policy but don't complain after the game, especially in case Acrofales at some point decides to call you mafia and wants to have you lynched. You will not like it a single bit. The truth is Holyflare executing his scumread Palmar, however bad or stupid you may think that is, isn't actually even close to a good reasoning of him being mafia.





I agree on the case on Ace. I had more thought on it and i think the fact that he was actually aware of Trfel (or at least looked like he is) suggests that it is more likely he did in fact know what Holyflare was about to do. I know a lot of people are saying Ace is too good as scum to do something like that but i don't believe that is the case. I think Ace decided he can use his activity as an excuse to "not know HF is gonna lynch Palmar", aka that he didn't see it, and did the numbers and thought he can get away with it. Also Ace is not like some fucking mafia god that doesn't make any mistakes.
+ Show Spoiler +
I caught him once because scum nuked meapak and i went to fakeclaim the nuke when for any player who doesn't have TMI that nuke never comes from mafia. Ace got confused and started gunning on me being mafia completely ignoring the fact before. And he couldn't even keep his story straight. So yeah, it's not like Ace alwasy does the most optimal play as mafia.


Mr.Wiggles is also mafia but that's for tomorrow.


Yeah no it's not jiving. I can believe you believe it but

1. He wasn't going after lurkers -> main push was oats
2. I don't know why this would make anyone scum?
3. This doesn't seem entirely true unless your argument is why didn't he try to convince one of them to lynch someone he scumread more? Which I don't see as particularly problematic in light of what he was posting about D1. And I don't see the yelling or chaos?
4. This I can see.
5. Don't agree here either. Much as I don't agree on his HF push it's not like he's been ignoring everything else.

@Acro - when did you decide HF became top priority? he was behind wiggles and sent originally?

On March 05 2019 10:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 10:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:09 Acrofales wrote:
Man. This is gonna be a boring few days. We lynch sentinel and wiggles. After that we need to switch our brains back on.

We kill HolyFlare.

Unfortunately no. We don't. Sentinel and Wiggles were exactly as bad, and were also high priority scumreads from the dead town Palmar.


"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 20:29 GMT
#4571
On March 07 2019 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I think a BH lynch is key to solving a lot of people's alignments to be honest.

......

And strangely enough I am down with this but would rather HF.

Both may have to go.

I prefer HF first.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 06 2019 20:32 GMT
#4572
On March 07 2019 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
You may not like me in this game, you may think I'm mafia, you may think I'm town. None of those things do I care about. This is the information you have that is the most important thing in this game:

Show nested quote +

Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar


You had a vote on a guy that literally trolls for a mafia career telling us to lynch him and the vote was so close somehow that our doctor got lynched instead of him. That leaves some serious question marks hovering around, we have absolutely imperfect information that can easily be solved by either BH playing a game of mafia or lynching him and figuring it out.

If you can think of any reason not to lynch this guy to further your information gain today please let me know. I'm mainly looking at:

Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion, Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley, Damdred, Tictock, BloodyC0bbler, Ace, Meapak_Ziphh, Pandain, Rels, Chezinu, Onegu

These people didn't vote for BH (didn't even realise Koshi didn't, what a travesty). I think it's best to look into them first because BH would have been such an easy no qualms mislynch if he was town I don't think there should be any hesitation to lynch him from them. Which is suspicious as to why they did not and instead afkd on really pointless wagons or Trfel.

I was away for deadline serving sushi, but, nonetheless I hate that I am actually down with this plan
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 06 2019 20:32 GMT
#4573
On March 07 2019 05:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I think a BH lynch is key to solving a lot of people's alignments to be honest.

Whoseeeee?


Almost everyone in the game. It's more information.

Off the top of my head, if BH is town then every one of those people that were off Trfel and BH wagons look like shit. Exo looks terrible because he said "I think BH looks very much like a town trying to save himself" and voted BH anyway. BC gave an excuse to be on neither of the wagons right at deadline.

I remember Onegu and some other lurkers just turning up at deadline to do other similar things. Will have to investigate based on flip.

If BH is mafia then obviously need to look into the people that stuck on Trfel when he started to look really towny.

So basically what you are saying is that you think that his flip will lead to information on some people but you are too lazy to look and actually find out what specific people those are.


thanks for volunteering

I am actually mid way through writing a post about all of those people on that list
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 06 2019 20:34 GMT
#4574
On March 07 2019 05:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
From reading the blue text, my understanding is that the mayor’s lynch is locked in when the night post happens so any time before that it could’ve been changed


No, mayor literally can not submit anything, look at whos being lynched, and then make his decision.

Well yes which is why I said night post and not deadline
No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18259 Posts
March 06 2019 20:35 GMT
#4575
On March 07 2019 03:41 Vivax wrote:
I was really really looking forward to having a holyflare for dinner on D2.

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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2019 20:35 GMT
#4576
if we were gonna yolo lynch I think rels is the guy. he starts getting active as mafia starts winning. very nice. also thinks im scum for some reason which seems forced (omgus)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
March 06 2019 20:35 GMT
#4577
Slam HFs entire premise is that mafia lynches the easiest guy and not the juiciest. You have a massive list of people not voting BH. So what? That doesnt narrow anything down by a bit. On the contrary it states that no mafia voted BH.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 06 2019 20:36 GMT
#4578
On March 07 2019 05:28 rsoultin wrote:

@Acro - when did you decide HF became top priority? he was behind wiggles and sent originally?

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 10:13 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:09 Acrofales wrote:
Man. This is gonna be a boring few days. We lynch sentinel and wiggles. After that we need to switch our brains back on.

We kill HolyFlare.

Unfortunately no. We don't. Sentinel and Wiggles were exactly as bad, and were also high priority scumreads from the dead town Palmar.



"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 06 2019 20:36 GMT
#4579
On March 07 2019 05:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2019 05:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 07 2019 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I think a BH lynch is key to solving a lot of people's alignments to be honest.

Whoseeeee?


Almost everyone in the game. It's more information.

Off the top of my head, if BH is town then every one of those people that were off Trfel and BH wagons look like shit. Exo looks terrible because he said "I think BH looks very much like a town trying to save himself" and voted BH anyway. BC gave an excuse to be on neither of the wagons right at deadline.

I remember Onegu and some other lurkers just turning up at deadline to do other similar things. Will have to investigate based on flip.

If BH is mafia then obviously need to look into the people that stuck on Trfel when he started to look really towny.

So basically what you are saying is that you think that his flip will lead to information on some people but you are too lazy to look and actually find out what specific people those are.


thanks for volunteering

I am actually mid way through writing a post about all of those people on that list

Alright then so by off the top of your head you mean that you didn’t start writing the post till I asked you. Nice.
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 06 2019 20:37 GMT
#4580
On March 07 2019 05:35 sicklucker wrote:
if we were gonna yolo lynch I think rels is the guy. he starts getting active as mafia starts winning. very nice. also thinks im scum for some reason which seems forced (omgus)


I'm also down for this. If I still feel this way in the morning I'll explain further.

But I also am fine with a BH lynch so...yeah lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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