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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 00:58 GMT
#2782
On March 05 2019 09:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 09:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:52 Damdred wrote:
I think bh could be town here maybe? But might want to kill him anyway.

I am sort of in migraine place from work so I'm going to try to figure out what exactly happened.

But yeah people moving to trfel woild be worth looking into, idk about viva though when I looked at his filter earlier it was actually quite ok, not what I would expect to see from his scum game generally.

And while I dont like the play of Hf to kill palmar...could just be more null he has the balls to do it as scum but he would of pocketed palm. Probably not worth thinking about in that regard, I'm just going to read it as null.


explain?

I've not been here in ages but last I was around Palmar quite liked trying to lynch HF?


Let's be honest, Palms biggest weakness is when someone turns from scum reading to town reading he gets a huge blindspot on that person, we sort of did it in that massive game we played slam put on.

Hf was pretty vocal about killing him, I think if he would of switched it to killing someone else and buddied palm he would of fell for it pretty hard.

But it is hf...his balls...pretty big

I accept your explanation can be truthful as you see it but I'm not sure I really believe in it. HF isn't anyone and I think Plam knows that
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:03 GMT
#2790
On March 05 2019 10:00 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 09:58 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:57 Damdred wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:52 Damdred wrote:
I think bh could be town here maybe? But might want to kill him anyway.

I am sort of in migraine place from work so I'm going to try to figure out what exactly happened.

But yeah people moving to trfel woild be worth looking into, idk about viva though when I looked at his filter earlier it was actually quite ok, not what I would expect to see from his scum game generally.

And while I dont like the play of Hf to kill palmar...could just be more null he has the balls to do it as scum but he would of pocketed palm. Probably not worth thinking about in that regard, I'm just going to read it as null.


explain?

I've not been here in ages but last I was around Palmar quite liked trying to lynch HF?


Let's be honest, Palms biggest weakness is when someone turns from scum reading to town reading he gets a huge blindspot on that person, we sort of did it in that massive game we played slam put on.

Hf was pretty vocal about killing him, I think if he would of switched it to killing someone else and buddied palm he would of fell for it pretty hard.

But it is hf...his balls...pretty big

I accept your explanation can be truthful as you see it but I'm not sure I really believe in it. HF isn't anyone and I think Plam knows that


Yeah I think I agree with that, HF is probably the only person in the game who I would think would make the play especially if palm had some of his buddies dead to rights...and for swag.

I think I'll ignore the thought for now, but overall gf play hasn't been super scum leaning to me. Even his rayn fight did not feel like he was scum trying to tilt or to muddy, it's been pretty clean.

I will digress here as I dont want to start a big thing about why hf is town necessarily when I should be reevaluating.

that would be a point in his favour, maybe i'll read it sometime

gonna mock him mercilessly post-game if he is town for that lynch though


didn't see Palmar call him mafia so that's a bit annoying



[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:05 GMT
#2791
On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 09:53 marvellosity wrote:
HF mate, why did you actually kill Palmar?

I don't want a quote from your posts, just the actual reason(s)


B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either.

I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.

not the worst reason, especially the last bit

still
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:08 GMT
#2793
On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 09:53 marvellosity wrote:
HF mate, why did you actually kill Palmar?

I don't want a quote from your posts, just the actual reason(s)


? I thought his early posts were colossally bad. I didn't like how he kept coming up with reasons to read people one way or another that on closer inspection turned out to be massively false and then he'd just brush it away.

This happened with:

Rayn - where he came up with some factually incorrect meta and falsehoods in this game that got disproved and then called out by Rayn himself and Palmar just hand waved it away

LS read - where he tried to further his incorrect point that he must be right on LS because rsoul and damdred agreed with him (and also therefore damdred must be town because they agreed on LS(????????????????)). It turned out neither of them really agreed anymore but he didn't update that read on damdred

At the time I submitted the vote on palmar he had only 2 real attempts at scum reads and they turned out to be hedges instead on both acro and iamp so he really had no scum reads. He only started trying to scum read people after I called him out on it.

Outside of Palmar himself there was an overwhelming wagon building on Palmar's mayorship out of nowhere. He had only stated that he was going to lynch sentinel and then after Sentinel posted not bad walls of text he never updated that read. His wagon kept growing but with nobody really casting doubt on Sentinel further (other than like 1-2 people) so Palmar seemed to be in direct contention with my mayor votes for absolutely no reason whatsoever (I even had sentinel as my lynch policy for a long while).

I ultimately ended up still lynching Palmar:

A) because my vote was locked in and I never really got to change it to BH when your slot and vivax saved him

B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either.

I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.

scummy (not gonna read them, just is. "not bad walls of text" is like a description of scum all over)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:09 GMT
#2795
On March 05 2019 10:08 Holyflare wrote:
It's been too long and you haven't witnessed the new only plays on phone and has to work all the time Holyflare. I'm not very good anymore but my ego hasn't deflated to match.

good boy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:11 GMT
#2801
On March 05 2019 10:09 Damdred wrote:
Marv why are you coming in and being so town and get killed I would like to play with you more than 3p minites!

yeah well I wanted to play with Palmar (and you of course ) and look where that got me!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:12 GMT
#2805
On March 05 2019 10:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 10:08 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
On March 05 2019 09:53 marvellosity wrote:
HF mate, why did you actually kill Palmar?

I don't want a quote from your posts, just the actual reason(s)


? I thought his early posts were colossally bad. I didn't like how he kept coming up with reasons to read people one way or another that on closer inspection turned out to be massively false and then he'd just brush it away.

This happened with:

Rayn - where he came up with some factually incorrect meta and falsehoods in this game that got disproved and then called out by Rayn himself and Palmar just hand waved it away

LS read - where he tried to further his incorrect point that he must be right on LS because rsoul and damdred agreed with him (and also therefore damdred must be town because they agreed on LS(????????????????)). It turned out neither of them really agreed anymore but he didn't update that read on damdred

At the time I submitted the vote on palmar he had only 2 real attempts at scum reads and they turned out to be hedges instead on both acro and iamp so he really had no scum reads. He only started trying to scum read people after I called him out on it.

Outside of Palmar himself there was an overwhelming wagon building on Palmar's mayorship out of nowhere. He had only stated that he was going to lynch sentinel and then after Sentinel posted not bad walls of text he never updated that read. His wagon kept growing but with nobody really casting doubt on Sentinel further (other than like 1-2 people) so Palmar seemed to be in direct contention with my mayor votes for absolutely no reason whatsoever (I even had sentinel as my lynch policy for a long while).

I ultimately ended up still lynching Palmar:

A) because my vote was locked in and I never really got to change it to BH when your slot and vivax saved him

B) I would much rather have fun with a lynch on a really polarising player to lynch instead of some shitty policy lynch anyway that may or may not have actually turned into a scum BH. We now have about 100 different reads on this lynch and we have the flip to boot. It wouldn't have been the same if Palmar didn't flip either.

I was tempted to vote some non-entity but that's really really fucking boring and wouldn't be fun.

scummy (not gonna read them, just is. "not bad walls of text" is like a description of scum all over)


Seems somewhat arbitrary.

what of it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:14 GMT
#2810
On March 05 2019 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
Bringing to forefront.
Interesting point on FF.
Sentinel is already receiving limelight.

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:40 Trfel wrote:
Town
Jockmcplop
LightningStrike + Show Spoiler +
Even before the anger

Vivax
rsoultin + Show Spoiler +
Highly doubt she'd call me mafia if she were mafia


Townish
Onegu
Holyflare + Show Spoiler +
Can't ever read him anyway

BlazingHand + Show Spoiler +
Feel like mafia!BlazingHand would have just rng'd a filter and written up a case

Tictock
Tumblewood
Acrofales
Chezinu + Show Spoiler +
I don't see the disconnect others are commenting on between his play this game and his town play. Maybe I'm just blind? But I don't see it

Tubesock + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2019 03:26 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 03:24 Conversion wrote:
do people actually like Tube's filter or is it that there are worse filters out there than his? I can't seem to grab any sort of stance from his filter at all and lots of soft questioning that lead nowhere
Tubesock? That's actually not the way I read his filter at all.

To me he feels actually invested in his reads. He's suspicious of me for one, and he's actually asking people about that and looking for support. Sure, he's asking a lot of questions, but at least in my opinion he actually does have a direction.

Grackaroni + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote:
If you only read the first page of Grack's filter it's pretty easy to come away thinking he's shit scum not trying to understand the game. But the second page is full of stuff like this. He's showing he's thinking along with the game and reading. He then stopped again, and intermittent behaviour when starting to come under suspicion into lurking under the radar is pretty scummy, but there are better targets.

Conversion + Show Spoiler +
I don't really understand the suspicion of him. I forget what Vivax said about him exactly but I don't think it was anywhere near as convincing as Vivax did. I see Conversion contributing original content and being willing to be in the center of everything, both of which usually come from town.

Mocsta
Meapak_Ziphh + Show Spoiler +
Same as Conversion really. There are some suspicious things but overall he's willing to be the focus of attention and he is sharing original thoughts, which makes me think he's town.

iamperfection
Mr. Wiggles

Null
Palmar + Show Spoiler +
Lack of time to understand why people are suspicious of him, unless someone wants to point me to a summary? But I doubt I want to lynch him today, his recent activity has seemed very good to me.

Oatsmaster
WaveofShadow
sicklucker + Show Spoiler +
His play still feels like mafia to me but I also think he'd be more invested as mafia in particular, I'd like to wait to see him get more involved before making a decision.

raynpelikoneet
ExO_ + Show Spoiler +
Feels genuine

Pandain
darthfoley
Koshi
BloodyC0bbler
Ace
Alakaslam
Rels

Mafiaish
FecalFeast + Show Spoiler +
Perfect example of being present and being suspicious of people while not actually pushing anything. This post in particular. But throughout his play, being suspicious of general thread suspects without actually showing investment in that, all he cares about doing is asking to be mayor despite his only mayoral vote being himself.

[UoN]Sentinel + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.


Great read on that Conversion chap I'd say
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:17 GMT
#2813
On March 05 2019 10:17 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 10:13 Holyflare wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:12 Acrofales wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:08 Holyflare wrote:
It's been too long and you haven't witnessed the new only plays on phone and has to work all the time Holyflare. I'm not very good anymore but my ego hasn't deflated to match.

It should have. You're either an idiot or scum. Just shut up and go sit in a corner the rest of the game. You're bad. I wish I could just shoot you tonight and not have to worry about you the rest of the game.


I mean if I'm mafia then I won the mayor vote while on holiday and phone posting the entire time and eliminated the person posting a lot of posts.

But you're insinuating pretty hard that I'm BAD rather than mafia. If I'm mafia I'm awesome, amazing, incredible. I think you're displaying a bit too much TMI here Acro.

Holy shit, if you're town you are actually terrible at this game. Like truly mindblowingly awful. I pray for the life of me you're scum, because if you're town I haven't seen someone this dumb since kushm4sta.

/end hyperbole

good night
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 01:18 GMT
#2816
P.S. let's call Slam town
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 07:56 GMT
#3048
On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction.

He might be mafia, he kinda strongly said conversion was mafia right after the flip but then didn’t reference me at all once I’d started posting, thought it was a bit weird
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:00 GMT
#3051
On March 05 2019 16:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 16:56 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said Acrofales was trying to do something during EoD is completely wrong, he was never doing anything, that was just headless running from one place to another with no fucking direction.

He might be mafia, he kinda strongly said conversion was mafia right after the flip but then didn’t reference me at all once I’d started posting, thought it was a bit weird

Me and iamp made cases / scumread-posts on him earlier in the game in case you wanna check them out.

No takers at the time or what?

Also hi
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:07 GMT
#3055
What’s meapak not doing here that he normally would as town rayn?

First filter I looked at this game because it would be fun if I got to lynch him.

I ask for meta because ‘old hands not doing that much’ describes almost all of them
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:11 GMT
#3059
On March 05 2019 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 17:07 marvellosity wrote:
What’s meapak not doing here that he normally would as town rayn?

First filter I looked at this game because it would be fun if I got to lynch him.

I ask for meta because ‘old hands not doing that much’ describes almost all of them

I don't know i genuinely have zero meta on Meapak that i remember.

Okay. The real reason I asked is cos I’d love it if sent were mafia and I didn’t want anything to dissuade that :p

Acro cases decent tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:17 GMT
#3066
On March 05 2019 17:15 sicklucker wrote:
marv why are you conversing with the enemy

Why is he the enemy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:18 GMT
#3068
On March 05 2019 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 17:11 marvellosity wrote:
Acro cases decent tbh

And that's the point when everyone and their mom started scumreading me because Holyflare said not so. Funny isn't it?

I’m highly unlikely to read through for context so I’ll stick with the cases and try to find time to look myself at his filter later xD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:19 GMT
#3069
On March 05 2019 17:17 sicklucker wrote:
well im confident he is the mathematical lynch. im more confident hes a good lynch then any amount of my sad reading ability can comprehend. So im not really motivated to find mafia since a very likely mafia is in line. IF he flips town then I can try hard to save the game for town by finding mafia and not getting lynched. If he flips mafia I can kill you. Untill hes dead no motivation

Thought you were talking about rayn

Don’t really know if hf is mafia, shooting him could still be fun though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:21 GMT
#3071
The trouble is, if hf is town (or even mafia) it’s so easy for mafia to hide on the kill him train
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:29 GMT
#3079
On March 05 2019 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your take on Ace? I think he is full of shit.

Isn’t he always though

Would have to read, not sure when. Didn’t read the couple of posts I saw scummy but that doesn’t mean much
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2019 08:50 GMT
#3088
On March 05 2019 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 17:29 marvellosity wrote:
On March 05 2019 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your take on Ace? I think he is full of shit.

Isn’t he always though

Would have to read, not sure when. Didn’t read the couple of posts I saw scummy but that doesn’t mean much

Basically he asked Holyflare this:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2019 05:01 Ace wrote:
@holyflare: just voted you for Mayor. I haven't fully caught up but I've been skim reading. Assuming you win the election your plan is what again? Just restate for clarity so I'm not confused or in case I missed any new developments.

Then nothing on HF's campaign on lynching Palmar.
Do you think he EVER as town doesn't verify by just reading HF's filter what HF wants to do (as HF didn't answer him afaik)?

Because i don't.

My impression is he would be more careful as mafia than that
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